Hi Ed, I see you are still ever the engineer :-) (I just play one at work)
I don't know what Pale Oil is. It could just be the light colored (pale)
oil in the buckets they get from Chevron. I would think it may be a mixture
of some other solvents.
Either way, both products are a mix of solvents that will likely clean
things out regardless of where you put them. The Seafoam stuff obviously
has a little more showmanship in their advertising. I've heard many good
testimonials from Seafoam, but haven't used it myself because I'm not
willing to pay extra for the hype, especially when in most cases any similar
solvent would do just as good.
As for the carb, tank, or crankcase application, they all can do that so I
just say "OK" and move on. A solvent will clean anything you put it on. In
the old days, they used to use ATF, which could be put in the carb or in the
crankcase to use its added solvents to clean things out.
I do like the "removes moisture" claims and what people will pay for this.
Any alcohol will do this, whether it is the $2 a bottle gas-dry, the 59 cent
bottle of isopropyl alcohol you get at the drug store (for twice the amount
of the gas dry), or just stop at the gas station that has 10% ethanol. All
do the same thing ... the difference in price is all marketing and
packaging.
Correct on being able to "mix your own", but is it worth the convenience of
having it prepackaged for easy/safe use?
As for shots in the parking lot, I'm sure the white lightning from a few
years back would clear out more than any off the shelf solvent you could
buy. It actually made a nice sipping drink ;)
Carl
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From: Ed Kokosa [mailto:edk800f1@xxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 10:56 PM
To: vfr@xxxxxx
Cc: 'Walzer, Carl (.)'
Subject: RE: Fuel injector/carb cleaner (was: Baseline carb setting for
stock 94)
Carl,
Not meaning to pick on your memory or spelling, but how about your info?
I previously was not familiar with Seafoam, but looking at their website,
umm, errr, well, me thinks that might be snake oil.
I'm sure that plenty of people rave about it, but....
It supposedly:
Stabilizes fuel
Cleans carburetor
Cleans carbon
Removes moisture
Assures fast starts
Frees sticky rings
Restores power
Upper cylinder lube
Smooths rough idle
And you can pour it down the carb, pour it in your gas tank , or even pour
it into your crankcase. Are you can't also use it as a desert topping?
Per its MSDS, the components of (hazardous) interest are:
Pale Oil, 40-60% by wt
Naptha, 24-35% by wt
IPA (Isopropyl alcohol) 10-20% by wt
This is not comparable to Techron.
It's MSDS (hazardous) components are:
Distillates, hydrotreated light, < 55 %weight
Stoddard solvent, < 35 %weight
Solvent naphtha, light aromatic, 3 - 7 %weight
Benzene, 1,2,4-trimethyl-, 1-5 %weight
Xylene 0.1 - 0.5 %weight
The proprietary item is polyether amine (PEA), which apparently does not
require MSDS listing.
Perhaps Seafoam also has some other active ingredients, I suspect (with no
real knowledge, typically doesn't deter me) that it doesn't. Those three
ingredients are it. The IPA removes moisture, the Naptha helps dissolve
things. You could buy your own Naptha, mix it into some oil, good to go.
I'll bring a bottle of Techron Concentrate Plus to COTU and we can do some
shots in the parking lot.
Your fuel injector preference may vary.
Ed
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