Most dogs just like this can be just docile and caring but that doesnt change the fact that they are and can be dangerous esp to kids. Hell when i was a kid our nextdoor neighbors had a dobberman from a puppy on until it was about 1 yr old, shortly after it turned 1 yr old it attacked one of there lil girls who was both familiar with the dog and, had gotten along with it quite well, hell i had even played with that dog. But sure enough the dog just snapped one day, and chewed off half her face and ear. Wild and or potentialy dangerous animals like that are fine but they need to be, under competent adult supervision in order to be safe. You did right 100% man those dogs could have reeked alot more havoc. It's not as if you shot a border collie or, terrier you shot a 100 or so lbs animal that was destroying stuff.
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and I didn't kill just to kill. I didn't want to get out of the shower in 30 degree weather bare footed and go shoot and animal. I wished it didn't have to happen but it did....Originally Posted by magnavmx5
I love dogs we have our own and it tried to warn my wife about the danger she just didn't listen. The dog would not go into the barn that morning with her when he normally would he just paced out side it. Those pig where just as gentle and any dog I've ever had. they were an easy kill I'm sure.
I would agree with that. The problem is that some breeds have a differant set of instincts from other breeds, which should still be closely monitored by the owner.I agree with jcoplen.
If an owner doesn't contain their animal it's their fault. The dog does what's instinctual. People who let their dogs run loose obviously have no respect for their neighbors, have no idea of how to evaluate risk (your wife could have been killed), and don't place any value on the dog.
It's sad you had to put the dogs down, because they didn't start out as bad animals, their ignorant owners make them that way :(
Just another case of humans sucking at life
In fact many counties in COLO. have banned Pit Bull ownership altogather, sighting many cases of mauling and death. Not sure if those bans where aimed at the breed or the lack of responseable ownership.
Wow glad you and the faimly are OK!!
I don't have much experience with pit bulls, but encountered one at the vet with one of my Greyhounds. This one was very well behaved, but my dog still kind of hid behind me, when usually he's very social with other dogs, people, cats, deer, etc. I mentioned it to the vet, who said "he's pretty smart to be careful around him". I was amazed at how big his head/jaws were.
Even my dogs, which are basically submissive 85lb cats, can be dangerous when they're outside, more from impact velocity when they hit you at 40MPH than from biting. They act different when outside, and I don't let them outside alone with the kids.
The owners don't seem like the best people, so maybe their "parenting" wasn't the greatest.
Also, as has been said before, dogs should not be off leash unless they are in their own enclosed yard.
Pitties are not bad dogs. They are the silliest, goofiest, most loyal dog breed around. Yes they were bred as fighting dogs (dogs, bulls, etc.), but they were also bred to be loyal and submissive to humans, that's probably partly why they want after your hogs; however, it is unlikely that they would have gone after your kids. Regardless, you did what you thought you had to do. I don't know if I would've done the same, but I wasn't there.
Like Randy said and confirmed by my GF (dog trainer), Labs can snap, too. Actually, my gf says that she runs into more problematic (dog aggressive) labs than any other breed, and she volunteers at a pitbull resue.
Unfortunately, bad owners and hype have given this breed a bad name, but they aren't inherently bad. This breed is the dog of choice for many a thug and wanna be gangster; you'll never see a gangster with a beagle or a pug. This has exacerbated the bad rep. I have 3 pits (2 adopted and 1 foster) and they are terrific.
Wow! crazy, glad it worked out, hell yes I'd done the same thing, owners of dogs need to be more responsible. Not to pick on folks that have these types of dogs, but I am curious whats the love for a dog that has a bad reputation? Just asking as to me it be easier not to have that kind of dog around, I get what they where breed for back in the days but?? Maybe i'm a hard ass as IMO they should all be in the military and sent to the middle east. Not being mean here, just kinda wild how there's so much of this going on with this breed, there was one attack here just last week and read about it all summer long. I get it's not the dogs fault, it's a people thing, But why ask for trouble. Glad it worked out, hope there's not to much ugly fall out, but where's the bike in all this??
Good info to have (12 ga. slug). And I feel bad for your kids.
Jay your question has already been answered - people who don't prejudge pit bulls love them for reasons already stated. They are EXTREMELY loyal to their owners and their actions are 100% representative of what the owners show and teach them.
one of the pups (pit mix) from our litter with his new family
Kaya and Cotton
Sam, pure bred and the most loving dog. We rescued him from a very bad house, no rehab needed. This dog was abused every day until we got him and will still not hurt a fly.
Kaya and Little Johnny
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Because it's a great breed. Other than dog fighters, this breed isn't bred for that anymore. Spend some time with one and you'll see how much fun and how loving they are, much more than other "popular" breeds. There are bad dogs in all breeds. Bad dogs should be killed. But bad owners outnumber bad dogs by many orders of magnitude. In my neighborhood, many retards let their dogs roam without leashes, and many don't pick up their poo when they walk them on leashes. It's the bad owners giving dog owners and pit owners a bad name. How many people do you think curse at dog owners for stepping on poo or seeing it in the sidewalk? Many. But if you are responsible and pick up after your dog, should you be lumped with the irresponsible owners? I think not. And this is the case with the pitties. Also, many times the media reports on a dog attack and say it's a pit, when it was actually another breed, such as a lab.
There's a lot of ingorance.
OP: I'm sorry your pigs were killed but this is absolutely a result of their upbringing.
Yes pit bulls have the physical ability to cause more damage with one bite, but other "family breeds" bite more. Lab, German Shepherds, and especially Dalmatians... they all have temperament problems but you don't hear about it in the media like "bully breeds". Personally I have seen more vicious behavior in miniature breeds (Chihuahuas, Teacup Poodles, etc) and would be much more weary of my son being around them. Their teeth are small and sharp like little needles! One bite may not cause too much damage but it still hurts.
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HUH???? Happened last week and heard about it all summer. You takin mind expanding medications for your injury or suffering flashbacks after murdering Bambi?
Jay Jay Jay what will we do.
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And not just limited to dogs.
tru dat yo!
they went after my wife and then me so I'm sure they would have went after the kids as well....As I never said a lab could not snap in fact I said they could could and do however I said that you see man many many less problems with them over all
please please don't take this the wrong way because I don't know you or your dogs. However that picture is just crazy!!! WHY ON EARTH WOULD YOU DO THAT? I wouldn't do that with ANY large breed of dog
Kaya and Little Johnny
Great looking dogs. Sam and Kaya look very sweet.Jay your question has already been answered - people who don't prejudge pit bulls love them for reasons already stated. They are EXTREMELY loyal to their owners and their actions are 100% representative of what the owners show and teach them.
one of the pups (pit mix) from our litter with his new family
Kaya and Cotton
Sam, pure bred and the most loving dog. We rescued him from a very bad house, no rehab needed. This dog was abused every day until we got him and will still not hurt a fly.
Kaya and Little Johnny
+1. Does anyone else remember dog experts on TV warning people that Dalmatians aren't great with kids when the live-action "101 Dalmatians" movies came out? Not saying it's always true but IMO that was a good move, otherwise unsuspecting parents would have bought the wrong dog for their families.
Just 'cause it's cute doesn't mean it's the right dog for you.
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agreed! I'm not just hate'n on the pit bull breed and if you have them I hope nothing ever happens and I'm sure the breed has some good point..I just havn't seen many of them that would offset the risk factor
Hey, who's to say the dogs didn't knock your bike over, too?! Just add the repair cost to the bill for the pigs!(J/K)
I found that out about women years ago! (J/K)
Shorty:
Get those dogs fixed, PLEASE!! If I read correctly, one of your dogs (Kaya I'm assuming) had a litter. Too many dogs (especially bully breeds) are dying in shelters.
Be my guess they wont be messing around with your house any time soon.
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I guess I have set the example of what might happen right?
my little brother used to sleep on our boxer when he was a baby...and she wouldn't move until he woke up...whether it was a 20 minute cat nap or a 2 hour nap... pretty sure Shorty wouldn't endanger her kid...I think if the dog tried anything it would be at the least locked outside....
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Kaya is fixed now and the daughter of hers we kept is about to now that she is getting older.
Whats the problem with the dog laying by my son on the blanket? I was right there on the blanket the whole time. He has a lot of fun with her and she loves him like one of her pups. She is always very cautious with him. It isn't like I put the blanket it down, set him on it, and walked out of the room.
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Pretty much, unless theyre professional gun theives. heeeheeeheee
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ilove pittes
Thank you. Kaya is like your boxer, she is as gentle with him as newborn pups. Dogs, especially mama types, love to snuggle with young children. Actually, all of our dogs are extremely good with him otherwise they wouldn't be here.
Often I while I am chatting I have Little Johnny with me, asleep on my shoulder. 99% of the time one of the dogs just absolutely has to curl up on the footrest to snuggle with us.
We have four dogs with varying amounts of pit in them. They are all very well kept, treated with love and respect, and they treat us exactly the same way. If you walk into our house they will treat you the same as well and would love nothing more than to sit next to you on the couch or on your lap if that is ok with you.
There has been exactly one time during the couple of years we've had Kaya where she has ever taken an alerted stance and that was while I was walking her at night and a questionable character was walking by us. Still she did nothing but signal to me "hey this guy might be up to no good", no aggression just stopped and looked at him then me before continuing. Every other time a person has passed she stays to our side of the sidewalk and keeps to her happy self.
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and Nico is on my avatar (our deaf boy-bull terrier/dalmation)
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