I had to kill...........

[buttonhook]

Well I had to kill two pitbulls monday morning 5:30am. They had killed my 2 300# hogs and then tried to attack my wife in the barn and then me.

The owner of the dogs was pissed at me . I told her what if my kids had been the one's to go and feed the hogs (which were the 16 year old's FFA school project) before they got on the bus for school (one is 5 years old and the other 16) like they normally would? She just kept cussing me. So I told her in a very nice way that if I see anymore of her pitbulls that I will assume they a dangerous and she will not even get a phone call next time, her dogs will just not come home. And the cops backed me up!! the cops even thanked me for killing them so they didn't have to do the extra paper work for lethal force..in front of her :)

I called the cops in order to record everything and to help track down the owners so they also have to go to court for failing to control a dangerous animal. Now they are really going to be pissed when I give them the bill for the two hogs.....$1600.00. The cops put down $3000 on the report so I'm giving them a break really.

BTW FYI a 12 gauge slug from 5 feet away will destroy a pit bull and there is no chance that they will ever get up.

[Action]

Good Job. I've had problems with dogs while mountain biking (on the west mesa for anyone in ABQ). I rode home, picked up my .357 and went back out in the truck. Dogs were still there so I took 2 of them out. The rest managed to run away. I have absolutely no patience with wild or loose dogs that are aggressive. Hopefully, you'll get your money back for the hogs.

Action

[dino71]

Well I had to kill two pitbulls monday morning 5:30am. They had killed my 2 300# hogs and then tried to attack my wife in the barn and then me.

The owner of the dogs was pissed at me . I told her what if my kids had been the one's to go and feed the hogs (which were the 16 year old's FFA school project) before they got on the bus for school (one is 5 years old and the other 16) like they normally would? She just kept cussing me. So I told her in a very nice way that if I see anymore of her pitbulls that I will assume they a dangerous and she will not even get a phone call next time, her dogs will just not come home. And the cops backed me up!! the cops even thanked me for killing them so they didn't have to do the extra paper work for lethal force..in front of her :)

I called the cops in order to record everything and to help track down the owners so they also have to go to court for failing to control a dangerous animal. Now they are really going to be pissed when I give them the bill for the two hogs.....$1600.00. The cops put down $3000 on the report so I'm giving them a break really.

BTW FYI a 12 gauge slug from 5 feet away will destroy a pit bull and there is no chance that they will ever get up.

Wow you had a eventful morning! I would have done the same thing, good for you. People who let vicious and from what I understand hungry and vicious dogs loose out in residential areas where children are present get what they deserve. You should also sue then in Civil court for endangering your family.

[jcoplen]

i love pittbulls ive owened several but i always told my self if they ever hurt someone or something i would kill them my self thankfully my dogs dont have a mean bone in there body. they have been the best dogs i have ever owened .just goes to show amimals are products of there enviroment

[buttonhook]

just goes to show amimals are products of there enviroment

Not really these were her babies and they were well kept and not made mean. The breed has been made that way. It took 1000's of years to get them the way they are and your never going to take all of that out of them. You could have the perfect one then one day it just snaps and they can't help it it's just in them. I just don't understand why anyone would even want a dog that you had to worry about that? I mean IF it gets out and does something the damage is done and some damage is not so easy to fix.
The hogs can be replaced but my kids can't and I couldn't kill a million dogs and get them back. So why even take that chance???

[buttonhook]

Wow you had a eventful morning! I would have done the same thing, good for you. People who let vicious and from what I understand hungry and vicious dogs loose out in residential areas where children are present get what they deserve. You should also sue then in Civil court for endangering your family.

they didn't even eat the hogs they just killed them!! and after all of this we found out they had been a problem for other people as well...I guess I'm the only one that doesn't value a dogs life more than my own........

[jcoplen]

i hate to say this but all dogs bite hunt and kill there animals and its been in there blood since the first dog . pitbulls are loyal dogs and love to please there owner maybe she used them for hog hunting seeing thet you live in tn its probbable very common breed for hog hunting. blam the owner not the dog and yes there is always a rotten apple

[myke_w]

I agree with jcoplen.

If an owner doesn't contain their animal it's their fault. The dog does what's instinctual. People who let their dogs run loose obviously have no respect for their neighbors, have no idea of how to evaluate risk (your wife could have been killed), and don't place any value on the dog.

It's sad you had to put the dogs down, because they didn't start out as bad animals, their ignorant owners make them that way :(

Just another case of humans sucking at life

[crustyrider]

here's my take.....good for you..protecting your family comes first..If they had been my dogs. I would have been pissed but I understand the big picture..

when I was in the military My friend inherited an 18 month old Rotwieler, he was good with the kids and everything was great. Then one day while the kids weere out playing in the drive the dog snapped, pulled one off of his bike and mauled him pretty good.

My friend was not home right then, but when he got there 30 minutes later, I handed him the 45 with five rounds in it and the dog got every one . of course the first one killed him the other four were for stress.

Is your wife Ok?

[myke_w]

My friend was not home right then

Again, who the hell leaves a large dog running loose, or even chained outside (which makes any dog territorial) with kids around. Any dog has a capacity to do damage, and it is the owners responsibility to anticipate such things.

I'm sorry, a bit of common sense goes long way people.

[buttonhook]

i hate to say this but all dogs bite hunt and kill there animals and its been in there blood since the first dog . pitbulls are loyal dogs and love to please there owner maybe she used them for hog hunting seeing thet you live in tn its probbable very common breed for hog hunting. blam the owner not the dog and yes there is always a rotten apple

I'm not trying to say if you own them then you are bad and I can agree with most of what you said as in all dogs are "wolves"...however, the odds of something happening are much, much greater with a dog like a pitbull and there are other breeds as well not just pits. How many times do you hear of labs going on killing sprees (I'm sure in has happened but not much)or yorkies? The selective breeding that has happened over the many years has happened to create (inhance) certain things such as a short face on a bull dog, the herding instinct of the shepards, or the killer instinct of the pitbulls. And you can not care for them enough to take the breeding out of them. You can try to train them to act against their nature however they are "animals" and it doesn't always happen. And you will never no when it will happen. So why take the chance

BTW They do use pits as hunting dos here for bear but they were never used as hunting dogs...trust me. i had her as a student a few years she not doing any hunting and she raised them from pups they were her babies. House dogs!

[Scubalong]

Well I had to kill two pitbulls monday morning 5:30am. They had killed my 2 300# hogs and then tried to attack my wife in the barn and then me.

The owner of the dogs was pissed at me . I told her what if my kids had been the one's to go and feed the hogs (which were the 16 year old's FFA school project) before they got on the bus for school (one is 5 years old and the other 16) like they normally would? She just kept cussing me. So I told her in a very nice way that if I see anymore of her pitbulls that I will assume they a dangerous and she will not even get a phone call next time, her dogs will just not come home. And the cops backed me up!! the cops even thanked me for killing them so they didn't have to do the extra paper work for lethal force..in front of her :)

I called the cops in order to record everything and to help track down the owners so they also have to go to court for failing to control a dangerous animal. Now they are really going to be pissed when I give them the bill for the two hogs.....$1600.00. The cops put down $3000 on the report so I'm giving them a break really.

BTW FYI a 12 gauge slug from 5 feet away will destroy a pit bull and there is no chance that they will ever get up.

Good Job. I've had problems with dogs while mountain biking (on the west mesa for anyone in ABQ). I rode home, picked up my .357 and went back out in the truck. Dogs were still there so I took 2 of them out. The rest managed to run away. I have absolutely no patience with wild or loose dogs that are aggressive. Hopefully, you'll get your money back for the hogs.

Action

Next time after you guys done with the dogs can you guys send them to me? Cause I can throw a big BBQ and invite all of the VFRW over
Anyway you both do the right thing. The safty of you and your family first I don't care if it a dog or human.....................

[vfourbear]

I would imagine a 12 ga. slug does a pretty good job on a dog.

Shame about the dogs, and the kids' project, but you did what you had to.

Bad day all around for ya.

Lets hope the dog owner doesnt get too pissy about it, people can get that way about their dogs, even if their negligence or circumstances warrant putting one down.

[buttonhook]

Is your wife Ok?

she fine she hurt her foot a little trying to get out of the barn and get the stall door closed before they got to her and I just had surgery on my hand so shooting the shotgun with slugs was......less than fun to say the least popped a few stiches but lucky for us we WILL live

we were 2 weeks from harvesting the pigs....all of that meat just buried...what a shame.....they would have made a great BBQ

[crustyrider]

I'm not trying to say if you own them then you are bad and I can agree with most of what you said as in all dogs are "wolves"...however, the odds of something happening are much, much greater with a dog like a pitbull and there are other breeds as well not just pits. How many times do you hear of labs going on killing sprees (I'm sure in has happened but not much)or yorkies? The selective breeding that has happened over the many years has happened to create (inhance) certain things such as a short face on a bull dog, the herding instinct of the shepards, or the killer instinct of the pitbulls. And you can not care for them enough to take the breeding out of them. You can try to train them to act against their nature however they are "animals" and it doesn't always happen. And you will never no when it will happen. So why take the chance

BTW They do use pits as hunting dos here for bear but they were never used as hunting dogs...trust me. i had her as a student a few years she not doing any hunting and she raised them from pups they were her babies. House dogs!

WOW a former student....small town...any way you did right......hopefully the dogs weren't "sick"

[crustyrider]

she fine she hurt her foot a little trying to get out of the barn and get the stall door closed before they got to her

glad to hear

[buttonhook]

WOW a former student....small town...any way you did right......hopefully the dogs weren't "sick"

we Id'ed the dogs by the rabies tags. we found them on the other side of the barn with pieces missing......

[34468 Randy]

Next time after you guys done with the dogs can you guys send them to me? Cause I can throw a big BBQ and invite all of the VFRW over
........

SLO 2010. Maybe I won't go...or eat at McDonalds if I do

[34468 Randy]

[QUOTE=crustyrider;215569]
when I was in the military My friend inherited an 18 month old Rotwieler, he was good with the kids and everything was great. Then one day while the kids weere out playing in the drive the dog snapped, pulled one off of his bike and mauled him pretty good.
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Contrary to what was said earlier, even a lab can snap. So can people. FYI, Rotwielers are not a vicious dog by nature. They are made to be that way. Historically, a rottie is a hearding dog. According to the American Kennel Club and the Canadian Kennel Club. Probably others as well but I haven't looked there.

It does not matter what the disposition of the dog is. They should be controled. Including those fucking yappy little things that can terrorize a child for life with just a little nip. And if you have a dog that is pre-disposed for viciousness, then keep a muzzle on it. Little kids do get into places they should not, including fenced yards with dogs.

BTW. I love dogs, have had many...and will have one again in the future. Cats make good dog food if cooked right.

[Scubalong]

SLO 2010. Maybe I won't go...or eat at McDonalds if I do

Your wife is Chinese, I am sure you love her cooking right
Have you ever wonder what in your dumpling.......? hahahaha

[jcoplen]

i do agree that what you did was the right thing to do. i just wish people understood the level of responseability that these dogs require. and that there not for everyone.

[34468 Randy]

She is not fond of dogs. But at the mother in laws, who fuggen knows what I have eaten. But if I lived there...then I would be fat (er).

A foot note to my earlier post about scaring kids for life. I had a Golden Retriever before the wife and I started living together (I know...in sin...) Friendliest dog you ever saw. My daughter was born sometime later and all was fine. SHe played with the dog and all. Then the dog accidently bumped her and she put her hand on a hot BBQ. She has been afraid of dogs ever since. And she is 22 years old now. So don't try to comfort someone afraid of dogs by saying your dog is friendly. It won't work.

And your cute little dog running through my gardens and shitting on my lawn is not OK. Leash the thing up. It is your dog, not the neighbourhood dog

[34468 Randy]

Your wife is Chinese,

Yup....one of those inter-racial relationships that will never work. Mine has been failing for over 25 years now. But I was a slow learner and under-achiever in school too.

I love Chinese dumplings. Too bad the British dumplings...you know...those things floating in the stew that are like a big lump of dough...aren't as tasty.

But back on topic. Button, I am sorry you were put in this position that you had to destroy these dogs. I am sure it was something you would have rather not had to do. But I would have done the same thing.

[jcoplen]

my three year old pure bred apbt cheif bloodline out of salt lake city ut

[MrDen]

+1 amigo. You did what you had to do and, in fact, I commend you for it. The dogs should not have been running loose in the first place.

[crustyrider]

my three year old pure bred apbt cheif bloodline out of salt lake city ut

not to offend...but he has that lights are on but no one is home/cocker spaniel look in his eyes.... basically big dumb lap dog look which IMO is the best.

[jcoplen]

no offence taken like i said she doesnt have a mean bone in her body

[drewl]

I totally agree with the amount of investment in a dog. I have always had dogs as a part of my family. It is sad they had to be put down.

I have always been a 100% proponent of protecting my family with the level of force necessary to control the situation.

What was done had to be done based on the facts presented.

The owner of the dogs is at fault according to dang near every law and ordinance on the subject. Good luck in navigating the fall out. These things can get quite nasty.

[TimRav]

You did what you had to do and, in fact, I commend you for it. The dogs should not have been running loose in the first place.

+1. Sorry you were put in that position in the 1st place, but thank God it wasn't your kids instead. And regardless of breeding, good dogs 'snapping', etc. dogs should have be chained up or fenced in unless the owner is right there with them.

A foot note to my earlier post about scaring kids for life. I had a Golden Retriever before the wife and I started living together (I know...in sin...) Friendliest dog you ever saw. My daughter was born sometime later and all was fine. SHe played with the dog and all. Then the dog accidently bumped her and she put her hand on a hot BBQ. She has been afraid of dogs ever since. And she is 22 years old now.

Our older son, now 12, was knocked over as a toddler by my in-laws' small dog (kind of a terrier mutt). Not maliciously at all - they were just playing and the dog hopped against him unexpectedly and down Alex went, and not that hard really. It took years for him to get comfortable around dogs again but I'm glad he did, as we have a terrific big Golden Retriever now!

[buttonhook]

i do agree that what you did was the right thing to do. i just wish people understood the level of responseability that these dogs require. and that there not for everyone.

I agree and I do blame the owners as well it was not only a problem with the dogs

On a side note.....I was worried about the owners of the dogs trying to steal stuff around the house before all of this(they already have a rep in the area)...I hope I solved that problem before in ever happened as well.

dog... it's the other grey meat