Im totally screwed, anyone want a nice bike?

[Spike]

If this is in response to what I wrote, I didn't mean that you yourself were soliciting or to beat you up. I am fine with the way you handled it. I would guess that at some time, most of us have driven drunk. I know I have, more than once, a lot actually, but not for a very long time and I was lucky enough to never be caught. But I was a bartender for years, and certainly drank every night I worked and most nights I didn't. I still remember sliding my car around the corners of a very twisty road near my home on more than a few occassions, all winter long in the snow I was tail out. But hey, I was driving a very highly engineered 'vette. Chevette that is! ;-) Obviously a very sporting ride, with a suspension & handling beyond reproach! ;-)

Originally Posted by VaRollOn

Before this spins out, please read my response that I would not accept any funds even if offered. Also, yes I was over and yes I had one 9 years and 8 months ago so in that I deserve to be punished.

In my own defense I had 3 drinks and 2 beers in 4+ hours with no dinner and at 180lbs I was over, I thought I was OK, and I was unfortunately VERY WRONG. As to my intention I didn't think I was illegal, but that only matters to the prosecutor in terms of intent not reality.

Lets keep this civil as I have opened up to the community not only to vent but to help you guys not make the same mistake I did, so no punching bag please.

And RW, if I sell it it probably WOULD be a 5th Gen

[Spike]

Originally Posted by chesthing

Noone was hurt, he didnt cause an accident, and .10 isnt drunk in my opinion. Buzzed, maybe.

no one was hurt, is lucky, but the potential is still there

having worked in the bar and restaraunt industry for years, where people tend to drink far more than the general public, I have seen my share of friends, customers & SOs popped for DUI, but also been to the hospital to get them...

like when you have someone get 2 or 3 years for attempted murder?!?! What the heck is that? If the intent was there, and they tried, why do they get next to nothing because they are a bad shot. Especially when it is a cop, and they get 3 years, but if it wasnt' for the vest, or if the person actually knew how to shoot they would be on death row? that doesn't make sense to me. They still tried to do it, and I for one would rather not have some one who is so out of society, that they are willing to take pot shots at a cop. That is not a person I want walking the streets. Put 'em away for life!

[Spike]

Originally Posted by VaRollOn

I know of an acquaintance recently whom got arrested and charged with a felony for passing(not even speeding) where there was no dotted line, not a double yellow, no line at all.
Ride well my friends

There almost certainly has to be more to this story than that...
unlawful pass, even reckless driving added in, wouldn't usually add up to a felony. There can be, depending, a felony reckless driving, but that is usually reserved for the most egregious or driver/riders.

although no line at all may mean a one lane road.

[Spike]

so at 0.10, would you let your pilot fly like that?
your child's bus driver?
your child, if you have one of course, in the back seat of a parent driving him or her home?

I have seen video, and have to beleive it is out there on the net somewhere, where they put people in a car on a track, or even a road course in a parking lot with cones and have them drive a loop. Timing their progress. Then they get a drink , do a breathalyzer test and do another timed loop. Then another drink, and so on. It is pretty enlightening to watch. Impairment happens much sooner than you would think. Times generally stay flat or improve a little initially, probly to do with growing familiarity with the car and/or track. But then they quickly begin to drop off, and cones start to get punished. Most people also feel like their times are still getting better and that was "their best run yet!".

Originally Posted by seadooloo

I can't believe that so many people are trying to bust you in the chops for being .10 BAC, if you ask me it was just a simple case of poor judgement. At that level you most likely didn't even feel slightly impaired let alone drunk.
I do understand that your reflexes might not be up to par, but you were in no way being a drunken idiot out there taking chances with other peoples lives.
That BAC calculator is dead wrong too. I would like to see a 180 lb. man drink only 3 beers in 2 hrs and test under .10... Does anybody have access to a breathalyzer so we can put this to a test? Anyway, I don't feel you endangered anyone's life that night. And you sure don't deserve the criticism and hard time you are getting by some of these guy's. I have personally seen too many idiots out there who were visibly drunk or drugged up endangering the lives of others, I only pray that we all start to make better decisions regarding our responsiblities to others and the possible tragic outcomes. I am not going to condemn you VARollOn for a poor decision that only brought trouble your way without affecting anyone else. I don't believe you were impaired enough at .10 to be a hazard to anyone else, let alone possibly cause anyone's death or bodily harm.
I wish you well in these court proceedings and hope that you have learned from this. (I know that you have) Thanks for trying to get us to think twice before we end up making the same stupid mistake.

[VaRollOn]

I've seen those tests, and it is true booze quickly effects judgement, reflexes everything you NEED to operate any vehicle especially a bike. I love your sliding story Spike! I was picturing some hotted up Vette. Thanks for mentioning something as I was responding to you mostly. No big deal I'm just a bit sensitive with all thats going on. At least the flooding is getting repaired!

I was certainly impaired as I know the intersection that I took a right on red at and FORGOT THE STUPID SIGN!!!! So yes, I was clearly not "strait", nor was I plastered, but I agree I wouldn't want my kids in the car when I was like that, so the state and anybody else could fault that.

Today I wrote Governor Kaine about the bend over fees that Virginia has implemented. Mostly to put a face and a story to an otherwise amorpheous issue, they are crushing folks out here, is sure to go to Supreme court of VA. Up to 2500$ for 20 over OUCH!! You are probably right about that felony pass, if you give the officer a hard time or whatever who knows what they are allowed to charge you with, and folks lie like a rug.

If you saw Drudge the other day a woman got fined like $1500 for speeding to Hospital pregnant, man they are not kidding, I'm sure she'll get off,,,, me not so much I bet....

Tbones!!! Shout out to Mondovi!! I'll stick so long as I have the bike, and every day we make it financially makes that a bigger possibility.

Im sure you guys are sick of this Fing thread

[nozzle]

Originally Posted by VaRollOn

Im sure you guys are sick of this Fing thread

No, it is the oil threads that are serious that I'm sick of

If you've still go the bike, any chance you'll head out to VIR for the AMA superbike race? I'm thinking of going...

[eddie cap]

Hey VaRolOn ; Sorry to hear about your misfortune, this is what we call in AA life on lifes terms. And sometimes life hands folks a real bad situation.We all know drinking ,drugging and driving/riding is wrong. For some of the guys that came down heavy on you, I would say they did similar acts and maybe worse but didnt get caught. Call me crazy, but why do they allow Bars to operate,when they know people must drive to and from them.Speaking for myself I never went to a bar and had just one or even two, and with my size two drinks would probably put me over the limit. Anyway I am not condoning drinking and driving and I know families have been shattered due to it .My bet would be get a lawyer who specializes in this type of case and learn from the experience. If you are more than a casual drinker, I bet there is an AA meeting less than 15 minutes from home, In AA people will embrace you and show you how to live a better life. Best of luck my friend. eddie cap

[VaRollOn]

That's the irony Eddie, I don't really drink anymore. A couple of beers once or twice a week. The stress of the flood did make me want to drink more than normal, and that is a bad sign as far as drinking. I used to drink alot in college, but with growing up and kids its just not worth it to me. I am sure ASAP will require me to go to meetings and explore my drinking so we'll see, I have too good a life to screw it up with alcohol that's for sure.


Nozzle, my best friend was trying to get me to go to the races, but I have folks coming to finally put in our carpet downstairs so I'm out. Have fun if you go!

[nozzle]

If the folks are coming in to put in carpeting, why do you need to be there? Wouldn't you be better off getting out of the way? I mean the smell of the padding might make you and your family sick.

I'll know Friday if I can get a hall pass from CINCNOZHOUSE