Trojan Replacement mirrors w/t LED integrated signal lights

[yoda6669]

Ops I did it again!

Last thursday I bough a set of trojan replacement mirrors(Ebay) for my precious. I really like the look of the trojan mirrors cuz they have the same countour as the 6th Gen VFR(somewhat triangular) instead of the OEMs round things. I recieve them today and went just now to fit them to my bike. This is what I encounter.

- The base of the trojans are not the same fit as the OEMs, but they have adjustable screws. Since I had the OEMs, I used the OEM mounts with the rest of the trojan mirrors. The OEM mounts have a hole already where you can base the hole that u need to drill on the bike fairing to run the wires.
- Need to drill a hole in between the 2 treads where the mirrow mount go(this is on the bike itself and need to remove the OEMs). The wires from the trojans lights are long enough to reach the front signal lights.
- Even though the whole mirror(mount, stem, and mirror) looks smaller, the actual mirror element is wider and longer than, OEMs.
- Look awesome after installed.

I need to get some splicers for the wires, that way the connection will be more reliable. I'll be doing that tomorrow. As soon as I connect everything. I'll post some pics of the mirrors on the bike. Here is 2 pics of the mirrors alone.

[yoda6669]

Finally I completed the installation of the mirrors yesterday. I ended up not using the splicers like I had planned. Instead I removed the bulbs wiring harness and ran the wires trough the connectors. The only thing I regret is that they come on only when you activate the signal light (they don't stay on all the time). I love the look

Here are some of them installed.

[benjammer]

Damit Yoda...Now on what them. You're killin me.
They look sharp.
I would have been nervous as a cat in a room full of rockin chairs drilling into the fairing.
Again, I like it. Makes the bike look more aggressive.

[yoda6669]

Originally Posted by benjammer

Damit Yoda...Now on what them. You're killin me.
They look sharp.
I would have been nervous as a cat in a room full of rockin chairs drilling into the fairing.
Again, I like it. Makes the bike look more aggressive.

Believe me Ben, I checked what was behind the fairing before I drilled, There was only a metal support for the mirrors. I almost messed up my car like a week after I bough it cuz I drilled a hole to run the wires for my audio amplifier. The hole was like a mm short of the car wiring harness.

[VT Viffer]

Does anyone else think they look "upside down"???

[FrankoQ]

Looks amazing!
A couple of questions...
1) you said you did not use the bases that came with the mirrors.
Instead, you used the OEM bases. Could the bases that came with the
mirrors still be used if one did not want to use the OEMs?

2) if you wanted the mirror lights to be on all the time, why didn't you wire
them to the headlight or something else that had power all the time the key was in?

Great mod. I'm considering it for my 4th gen.
Ebay says they fit a vfr 90-97 but your comment on the base is making me
think twice.

[FrankoQ]

Originally Posted by VT Viffer

Does anyone else think they look "upside down"???

Nope. they look perfect!

[FrankoQ]

Originally Posted by VT Viffer

Does anyone else think they look "upside down"???

It seems you are correct.
this is the ebay pic... I still like joda's install better.
mirrors.jpg

[yoda6669]

Originally Posted by FrankoQ

It seems you are correct.
this is the ebay pic... I still like joda's install better.
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There a reasonable explanation for that.
On the picture above you can see the mirror with the base that came with it. this base has a rubber cover that hides the signals wires. Since I used the OEM base, i removed the trojan base+cover. After I removed the cover, I noticed that there wire was going to be visible in plain view, in other words the wire comes out from the stem top(more visible), than the bottom(less visible). Also I compared the 2, OEM and Trojan position, and the way that I installed them resembles the position where the OEMs used to be. If I put them the way the pic shows I''ll be too high.

I did the change on the base cuz the, trojan base is too long. Didnt look natural, it looked like I wasnt part of the bike.

On the light issue. I wanted for the lights to work as signal light + marker light. The wiring on the trojans is red and white(+ and -).On the bike signal lights, theres 3 cables, orange or blue, orange/white or blue/white, and green(+, -, and ground). I tried to bridge the wires with no luck(I ended up blowing a fuse). So I gave up on it. I'll stick with the signal light.

[FrankoQ]

Originally Posted by yoda6669

There a reasonable explanation for that.
On the picture above you can see the mirror with the base that came with it. this base has a rubber cover that hides the signals wires. Since I used the OEM base, i removed the trojan base+cover. After I removed the cover, I noticed that there wire was going to be visible in plain view, in other words the wire comes out from the stem top(more visible), than the bottom(less visible). Also I compared the 2, OEM and Trojan position, and the way that I installed them resembles the position where the OEMs used to be. If I put them the way the pic shows I''ll be too high.

I did the change on the base cuz the, trojan base is too long. Didnt look natural, it looked like I wasnt part of the bike.

Another question...
do I have to drill holes?
any chance of running the wires thru the holes for the bolts that hold the mirrors?

[yoda6669]

Originally Posted by FrankoQ

Another question...
do I have to drill holes?
any chance of running the wires thru the holes for the bolts that hold the mirrors?

I had to drill a hole only to run the wires.

[Scubalong]

Yoda, That mirrors look sharp. Can you send some picture at night with the signal on????????

[Scubalong]

Also I think they look better if you paint them RED to match with your bike.... .

[drewl]

do they stick out further than then stock, i am tired of looking at my elbows

[yoda6669]

Originally Posted by Scubalong

Yoda, That mirrors look sharp. Can you send some picture at night with the signal on????????

Originally Posted by Scubalong

Also I think they look better if you paint them RED to match with your bike.... .

Originally Posted by drewl

do they stick out further than then stock, i am tired of looking at my elbows

I'll post them when I get a chance. Not a bad idea to paint them red. With the OEM base is the same length, if u use the base of the trojan mirror is shorter.

[VFRShorty]

Originally Posted by Scubalong

Also I think they look better if you paint them RED to match with your bike.... .

I think they look awesome black!

[FrankoQ]

could you post a close up pic of where the mirror attaches to your oem base?
want to see if I can reuse my 4gen base on these mirrors.

THanks in advance.

[mello dude]

Originally Posted by VT Viffer

Does anyone else think they look "upside down"???

Yup - guess they match the bar ends.... To each his own

MD

[hondawolf]

Looks really neat. I think to get them to stay lit, you need to switch the wires around. So it has power all time. Then you flip "on" the blinkers, and it gets interupted-blinks. Where as your stock one blink when they get power. I think they have three wires in the front, because they're wired to the rear from there. I've been thinking about wiring my stock fronts to stay "on" as marker lights. Anyway, nice job. I'm considering those mirrors now.

[Longerfellow]

Originally Posted by VT Viffer

Does anyone else think they look "upside down"???

I was thinking that too, but I'm old... what do I know?

[SLOVFR]

Originally Posted by VT Viffer

Does anyone else think they look "upside down"???

I would have them flipped the other way to give more mirror to see traffic in the lower portion...... But other wise they look great like that too...

[powerslave]

Now that you don't really need the factory signals now,that might be a killer spot to fab up some kind of ram-air duct!!!!

[hondawolf]

Ram air would be sweet! Hard part is there isn't much, if any room between the tank and frame. Many bike with ram air, have a hole through the frame to the air box. Unless you could somehow get from under the frame to the air box?

[Scubalong]

Yoda What you need next is HID head light..........

[yoda6669]

Originally Posted by hondawolf

Looks really neat. I think to get them to stay lit, you need to switch the wires around. So it has power all time. Then you flip "on" the blinkers, and it gets interupted-blinks. Where as your stock one blink when they get power. I think they have three wires in the front, because they're wired to the rear from there. I've been thinking about wiring my stock fronts to stay "on" as marker lights. Anyway, nice job. I'm considering those mirrors now.

I tried on 3 wires using different arrays, no luck. either they stay on, blink or nothing at all.

Originally Posted by Scubalong

Yoda What you need next is HID head light..........

The coversion kit is kind of expensive but I'll keep that in my Need list.

[Toobig4cbr]

Do you get much shake with your mirrors, i bought the same ones but used the mounts they came with and they seem to be really shaky, thinking about using my oems like you did, does the wiring look that bad? agree with the h.i.d. comment, i did mine a few months ago

[Rev]

you can't wire the mirrors to light all the time because they are not wired for that. The OEM lights are three-wire; blue/white, orange/white, and green. The mirrors only have red and white wires so when they are wired up, you will either have running lights or turn signals but not both

[yoda6669]

Originally Posted by Toobig4cbr

Do you get much shake with your mirrors, i bought the same ones but used the mounts they came with and they seem to be really shaky, thinking about using my oems like you did, does the wiring look that bad? agree with the h.i.d. comment, i did mine a few months ago

The OEM's used to shake too, I dont see any difference. As far as the wire, No u cannot see it unless you look real close to the base.

[CamelVFR]

Hi All, new to this site. I have a set of indi mirrors on mine and they shake like crazy. hard to see out of them to be honest. is there anyway to reduce this? Or do different brands act differently?

[ZonaMan]

Will those fit the fifth gen.? I am thinking about doing the GSXR mirror mod to mine with Radar's (VFRD) conversion plates.