Replacing 170 rear with a 180 on 4th Gen

tweber · 03-13-2008, 08:57 AM

Hello Group,
Is it ok to replace rear tire from a 170/60 to a 180 on a 4th Gen? Sales Rep at Honda shop rides a 3rd Gen he went from a 170 to a 180 with no problems. Will this be ok for a 4th Gen. I'm looking to replace the BT020 with the Pwr 2CT. Should I stay with the 170?
Tks
TWeber

WhiteKnight · 03-13-2008, 09:17 AM

I don't see that there would be a problem, just have to be careful of clearance issues. One other thing that may happen is that with the wider tire is that the turn in may be a litle slower than it was with the 170.

safetypro10 · 03-13-2008, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tweber

Hello Group,
Is it ok to replace rear tire from a 170/60 to a 180 on a 4th Gen? Sales Rep at Honda shop rides a 3rd Gen he went from a 170 to a 180 with no problems. Will this be ok for a 4th Gen. I'm looking to replace the BT020 with the Pwr 2CT. Should I stay with the 170?
Tks
TWeber

TW,

Wouldn't be prudent at this time.

4th gen rear wheel is 5" wide and a 180 is USUALLY too wide for 5". 3rd and 5th-6th gens run 5.5" wide.

Larry

VT Viffer · 03-13-2008, 09:45 AM

+1

Beat me to it by about 7 minutes.

DVMSVFR · 03-13-2008, 10:37 AM

I believe handling would be compromised with a 180 on the rear.

Bubba Zanetti · 03-13-2008, 11:07 AM

I'm with safety and VT, stay with the 170 on your 4th gen.

I just switched back to a 170 on the 97.

BZ

Taz · 03-13-2008, 11:38 AM

Unless you swap out your rear mag for a 5.5, I'd stay with the 170.

With a 180 on a 5" rim you can compromise the tyres profile & performance.

tweber · 03-13-2008, 04:23 PM

Thank you guys for your replies. Not only have you answered my concerns, but you've helped me to save a few $$$

by going with the 170's over the 180's. scared to ask, but any opinon's on the Pilots Pwr 2CT's vs B021?

Thanks again,
Thomas

Jimtt · 03-13-2008, 05:22 PM

Don't do it, that is all. JIM

powderrecon · 03-13-2008, 05:39 PM

I have zero first hand experience with either of those tires, however after lots of research, I am putting Pilot Road 2's on my 4th gen, once they come in stock. Seem like a perfect tire......for me.

nunyadamnbiz · 03-13-2008, 05:48 PM

I am running the Pilot Pwr 2ct on the front but like you see they only make 180, and 190's for the rear in the 2ct. I would run the 2ct on the front with the 170 regular Pilot Pwrs on the rear....I sure wouldn't want to jeapordize the integrity of the ride just to have the "hottest" tire out there at the time....just my .02, keep the change

tweber · 03-13-2008, 08:27 PM

I think i'll look into the 2ct up front with the 170 Pilot pwrs as nunyadamnbiz suggested. If i can't get that combo, will look into the B21's. Want to let powderrecon that Cyclegear has the Pilot Road 2 in stock. Again tks All

nunyadamnbiz · 03-14-2008, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tweber

I think i'll look into the 2ct up front with the 170 Pilot pwrs as nunyadamnbiz suggested. If i can't get that combo, will look into the B21's. Want to let powderrecon that Cyclegear has the Pilot Road 2 in stock. Again tks All

Yeah thats what I am running right now, and I love em...sticky as all get up....if you don't order them online a Cycle Gear is the next best thing...great prices on tires....have fun and keep those on the ground...well at least one of them

tweber · 03-14-2008, 03:08 PM

My riding mission is to keep all wheels firmly planted :-) here is a link that has pretty good prices on tires w/ free shipping on +200.00 orders. http://www.ridedirect.com/

marksvfr · 04-02-2008, 12:15 AM

Darn... Guess You guys answered my questions, well almost. I wanted to do the same thing. A friend just gave me a rear tire with only about 700 miles on it, and I wanted to use it to save some $$$ it is a 180/55 ZR17 my 4th gen has a 170/60 ZR17 so what is the main concern to not do it???

Seattle · 04-02-2008, 07:13 AM

Ok,

I'm running a 180/55 R17 on my gen3. It came that way when I purchased it. Am I ok running this tire or should I think about swapping it out?

tweber · 04-02-2008, 07:45 AM

Hello Group,
Well I ended up getting the BT021's front and back. I've got about 300mi on them so far. First impression is a much smoother ride, better grip with the dual compound on rear. Hope there isn't the cupping issues up front like with the 020's, at least the thread pattern has been changed. Will get back after some more miles.

TWeber

marksvfr · 04-02-2008, 08:08 AM

Tweber, did you end up going with the 180 or 170?

safetypro10 · 04-02-2008, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marksvfr

Darn... Guess You guys answered my questions, well almost. I wanted to do the same thing. A friend just gave me a rear tire with only about 700 miles on it, and I wanted to use it to save some $$$ it is a 180/55 ZR17 my 4th gen has a 170/60 ZR17 so what is the main concern to not do it???

You can put any tire you want on the rear 5" wide wheel, but what we're attempting to tell you is that the 180 tire is NOT made to fit a 5" wide wheel.

Larry

derstuka · 04-02-2008, 08:25 AM

Mark, as long as you have clearance, you can put any tire you want on your rim, however, since it is a wider/larger tire, you may slow down your turn in. Putting a larger tire on a smaller rim (to restate what Dr. Taz stated prior) can affect the tires profile and performance. Whoops...I meant tyres...haha

It doesn't mean you are gonna go in the ditch, eat shit, or you bike will self explode, but your bike may handle better (quicker handling, turn in) with a smaller 170. If you do mainly city riding, if would not matter as much probably.

tweber · 04-02-2008, 08:56 PM

Marksvfr, I went with the 170. Didn't want to compromise the on the twists and turns :-)

TWeb

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03-13-2008, 08:57 AM	#1 (permalink)
tweber Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Last Online: 11-03-2008 04:39 PM Location: NC My Ride: 1995 VFR 750 stock View my Photo Gallery Posts: 24 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Replacing 170 rear with a 180 on 4th Gen Hello Group, Is it ok to replace rear tire from a 170/60 to a 180 on a 4th Gen? Sales Rep at Honda shop rides a 3rd Gen he went from a 170 to a 180 with no problems. Will this be ok for a 4th Gen. I'm looking to replace the BT020 with the Pwr 2CT. Should I stay with the 170? Tks TWeber

03-13-2008, 09:17 AM	#2 (permalink)
WhiteKnight Moderator Join Date: May 2006 Last Online: 11-16-2008 12:16 PM Location: South Central Ky - Find Me! View my Photo Gallery Posts: 2,321 Thanks: 5 Thanked 18 Times in 18 Posts	I don't see that there would be a problem, just have to be careful of clearance issues. One other thing that may happen is that with the wider tire is that the turn in may be a litle slower than it was with the 170. __________________ http://www.nrwhiteknight.net

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Bubba Zanetti Uber Guru Join Date: Jan 2007 Last Online: Today 11:24 AM Location: Delaware My Ride: 1997 VFR750F View my Photo Gallery Posts: 1,481 Thanks: 41 Thanked 20 Times in 19 Posts	I'm with safety and VT, stay with the 170 on your 4th gen. I just switched back to a 170 on the 97. BZ __________________ "The average man does not get pleasure out of an idea because he thinks it is true; he thinks it is true becasue he gets pleasure out of it". -H.L. Mencken

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DVMSVFR Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Last Online: Yesterday 01:45 PM Location: western NC My Ride: 1999 VFR800fi Posts: 100 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	I believe handling would be compromised with a 180 on the rear.

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tweber Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Last Online: 11-03-2008 04:39 PM Location: NC My Ride: 1995 VFR 750 stock View my Photo Gallery Posts: 24 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thank you guys for your replies. Not only have you answered my concerns, but you've helped me to save a few $$$ by going with the 170's over the 180's. scared to ask, but any opinon's on the Pilots Pwr 2CT's vs B021? Thanks again, Thomas

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Jimtt Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Last Online: Today 07:31 AM Location: Chicago area My Ride: 94 VFR, 99 VTR, 85 VF500 View my Photo Gallery Posts: 133 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts	Don't do it, that is all. JIM

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powderrecon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Last Online: Today 11:39 AM Location: Seattle & Whistler, BC My Ride: 1996 VFR750 View my Photo Gallery Posts: 282 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	I have zero first hand experience with either of those tires, however after lots of research, I am putting Pilot Road 2's on my 4th gen, once they come in stock. Seem like a perfect tire......for me. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuhfMFLxVwA

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nunyadamnbiz Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Last Online: 11-08-2008 08:23 AM Posts: 40 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I am running the Pilot Pwr 2ct on the front but like you see they only make 180, and 190's for the rear in the 2ct. I would run the 2ct on the front with the 170 regular Pilot Pwrs on the rear....I sure wouldn't want to jeapordize the integrity of the ride just to have the "hottest" tire out there at the time....just my .02, keep the change

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tweber Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Last Online: 11-03-2008 04:39 PM Location: NC My Ride: 1995 VFR 750 stock View my Photo Gallery Posts: 24 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I think i'll look into the 2ct up front with the 170 Pilot pwrs as nunyadamnbiz suggested. If i can't get that combo, will look into the B21's. Want to let powderrecon that Cyclegear has the Pilot Road 2 in stock. Again tks All

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tweber Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Last Online: 11-03-2008 04:39 PM Location: NC My Ride: 1995 VFR 750 stock View my Photo Gallery Posts: 24 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	My riding mission is to keep all wheels firmly planted :-) here is a link that has pretty good prices on tires w/ free shipping on +200.00 orders. http://www.ridedirect.com/

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marksvfr Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Last Online: 10-20-2008 06:53 PM Location: Gresham OR My Ride: 1995 Honda VFR 750 View my Photo Gallery Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Darn... Guess You guys answered my questions, well almost. I wanted to do the same thing. A friend just gave me a rear tire with only about 700 miles on it, and I wanted to use it to save some $$$ it is a 180/55 ZR17 my 4th gen has a 170/60 ZR17 so what is the main concern to not do it??? __________________ " Sit Down, Shut Up, And hang On "

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Seattle Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Last Online: Today 07:56 AM Location: Seattle My Ride: 1990 750FL / 1975 CL 360 View my Photo Gallery Posts: 155 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Ok, I'm running a 180/55 R17 on my gen3. It came that way when I purchased it. Am I ok running this tire or should I think about swapping it out?

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tweber Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Last Online: 11-03-2008 04:39 PM Location: NC My Ride: 1995 VFR 750 stock View my Photo Gallery Posts: 24 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hello Group, Well I ended up getting the BT021's front and back. I've got about 300mi on them so far. First impression is a much smoother ride, better grip with the dual compound on rear. Hope there isn't the cupping issues up front like with the 020's, at least the thread pattern has been changed. Will get back after some more miles. TWeber

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marksvfr Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Last Online: 10-20-2008 06:53 PM Location: Gresham OR My Ride: 1995 Honda VFR 750 View my Photo Gallery Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Tweber, did you end up going with the 180 or 170? __________________ " Sit Down, Shut Up, And hang On "

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tweber Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Last Online: 11-03-2008 04:39 PM Location: NC My Ride: 1995 VFR 750 stock View my Photo Gallery Posts: 24 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Marksvfr, I went with the 170. Didn't want to compromise the on the twists and turns :-) TWeb