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Old 10-17-2008, 12:28 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Okay, I installed it....like mello dude said, it was a really easy install.

I don't see much of a difference at all. The ZG DB seems to come up higher than stock, but it has a smooth edge on it, where the stock one had a thick "lip" for lack of a better word. When I say it "comes up higher" I mean the windscreen itself looks to come up a bit higher, but the wind seems to deflect in almost the exact same place.

Overall, I'd rate this windshield as an appearance modification, not a functional modification.
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Old 10-17-2008, 05:34 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Does anyone have a good picture of the ST on our bikes? Also, where is a good place to get one?
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Old 10-17-2008, 07:14 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Does anyone have a good picture of the ST on our bikes? Also, where is a good place to get one?
Hey Glockem.....I've got the Zero Gravity ST installed here on my '07. I ordered mine direct from Zero Gravity's website. As you can see, I ordered the clear.
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Okay, I installed it....like mello dude said, it was a really easy install.

I don't see much of a difference at all. The ZG DB seems to come up higher than stock, but it has a smooth edge on it, where the stock one had a thick "lip" for lack of a better word. When I say it "comes up higher" I mean the windscreen itself looks to come up a bit higher, but the wind seems to deflect in almost the exact same place.

Overall, I'd rate this windshield as an appearance modification, not a functional modification.
You had the same experience I did with the ZG DB windscreen. I removed the stock one to replace it with the ZG DB hoping to deflect more wind (as they are designed to do) and the Zero Gravity basically made Zero Difference in wind deflection and I thought created more turbulance than the stock screen...a definite case of form over function.

I also have a ZG (SR style) on my ZRX1200 and I honestly think ZG windsreens are not as good as a lot of people make them out to be. I had to send two screens back to ZG b/c of flaws in the screen for my ZRX. They ended up telling me the defect was on all of the screens for this model b/c of how they had to tool it. They ended up polishing out the flawed area the best they could (even though it was still not perfect). The only up side to this is they ended up giving me the windscreen for free. I think Givi and Puig screens are better quality...for what it's worth.
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Cool man, thanks for the reply. I will try to track one down as well.
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Well, there is a dealer on eBay that sells the smoke ST for $73, and EMA in Cali sells them for $80 I believe. I just can't decide b/w the smoke and or the clear. Tough choices, I must tell you.
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Okay, I installed it....like mello dude said, it was a really easy install.

I don't see much of a difference at all. The ZG DB seems to come up higher than stock, but it has a smooth edge on it, where the stock one had a thick "lip" for lack of a better word. When I say it "comes up higher" I mean the windscreen itself looks to come up a bit higher, but the wind seems to deflect in almost the exact same place.

Overall, I'd rate this windshield as an appearance modification, not a functional modification.
It seems that windshields are very much a personal taste item. Everbodys experience is different even with the same shield. I'm 5'10" and find the DB deflects the air in a sweet spot for me. Yeah there is a bit more turbulence, but its acceptable. The stocker deflects it lower for me. Sometimes thats what I want.

If your taller, chances are you may have a different experience.


BTW - great pics -Acma29 - do you have websites to purchase those shields?


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BTW - great pics -Acma29 - do you have websites to purchase those shields?
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The yellow RC46A is mine. I tested few different windshield. Now, I'm using a smoked Ermax high.

You can find pictures of different double bubble windshields on Rfman site. He is member here but post much more on the French VFR site.
He asked to members to send him picts and made this page for RC46 and RC46II.
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I am sure that if you have picts took from the same angle of a different windshield, he'll be happy to get them.
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BTW - great pics -Acma29 - do you have websites to purchase those shields?
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The yellow RC46A is mine. I tested few different windshield. Now, I'm using a smoked Ermax high.

You can find pictures of different double bubble windshields on Rfman site. He is member here but post much more on the French VFR site.
He asked to members to send him picts and made this page for RC46 and RC46II.

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I am sure that if you have picts took from the same angle of a different windshield, he'll be happy to get them.
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The higher the screen, the more it will deflect the wind upward. The more upward, the more the wind roar. Wind roar can also come into the helmet - and also buffetting depends on the aerodynamic design of the helmet. A NOJ Collar for the bottom of the helmet can reduce this (no personal experience, but will buy one soon).

I never had the stock screen - I am 6 ft, so I had the ZG DB put on before it ever rolled onto the street. I liked it alot. Looks the best - doesn't scratch like the OEM one sitting on my shelf (where it will stay for all eternity). I upgraded with the Givi Touring Screen. Fitment I have to disagree with Reg71 - it shows a little on the inside of the windscreen where it bolts to the fairing - the plastic covers look like they are too short. Also I now get bets in where I can't remove then without a brush - but it helps out the windflow I am sure or it wouldn't be like that.

But with the Givi, I can sit straight up at 80 mph indicated on the highway without being slapped around - IN MY SHOEI RF1000 with LEATHER JACKET meeting the edges of the helmet - this is important to mention, reason being without the flush mounting of my helmet to my shoulders, I get some buffeting at 75 mph sitting up. It has a lot to do with flow. I get more roar at over 40 mph, but I wear plugs, and I expect that. No matter what you do, you'll never get rid of the Bugs, Rain or Wind - you will only make it more tollerable. Anything else and you'll be planting yourself on an ST or test-driving a Goldwing like I did and wondering why it feels like a diesel motor that can pull a house and was never meant to come to a stop

But the ZG DB I couldn't go over 70 mph without buffetting regardless of a Jacket or not. I honestly think that anything more than a ZG DB is more specific on aerodynamics of your helmet, riding equipment, and the speed you travel...oh, and height.

Oh damn, one big thing I noticed in all the windscreens - the further you sit back (move your head back), the less strength the buffetting has and calming the wind is. Relocating the bars as in using Risers and Handlebars - or Helibars, is a very big comfort upgrade and helps out with the wind management. If you don't beleive me - ride the bike and highway speeds with one hand and pull your body back, or ride both with your fingertips (don't wreck please). You will get exactly what I am saying!



fyi...pic in the avatar is a ZG DB Screen, a day before my Givi arrived. An 8-hour trip that would have been much more tolerable with the Givi! Givi isn't detracable by any means, but isn't as sleek as the ZG, and it doesn't look as intergrated into the package, but with bags, tankbag and topcase - it looks right at home. Will post up a Pic of the Givi as soon as I can from a side angle.





If I get some time later on, I'll take picture of the differences between the Stocker, DB ZG and Givi Touring.

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