V-tech- Over all positive or negative?

[powerslave]

i own a gen 6 vfr and love everything about it...but the vtec,honestly,i could take it or leave it.when it kicks in it's cool but i cant help but wish it ran on 4 valves full-time....i wonder how one of these would run if someone modified the valvetriain that way?

[reg71]

well, I hate to let you all down, but my $$ and what I found in the paper near my range determined my purchase. I was basically looking for a bike I could buy for cash money. I hate financing. Don't get me wrong, I really like new things, I just don't like new prices. I was never a huge VFR fan. My only experience of them was a buddy telling me they were great bikes that sound awesome with aftermarket exhaust. I never saw a 6g (that I knew of) before buying my 5g and finding this website. Didn't even know what people were talking about withe the 1g, 2g, 3g etc thing. I have only been here about 2 years. Now that I have been here, and have ridden the bike and have learned more about them, I am a fan. I thoroughly enjoy them all. I recommend them to others when my opinion is questioned. That being said, 5g is the best. sorry. couldn't resist. I'm just kidding. Like Jason, I feel like it was the best choice for me and am not impressed enough with the changes made in the 6g to "upgrade". Why does that seem to upset us (meaning all VFR riders)? Probably because we have watched such steady progress being made in the CBR line which the VFR predates. If they would just share a little of that suspension and keep our ergos I think most of us would be happy. Oh, and to me, I really enjoy the SSSA and V4 exhaust note (I do like V2 sound also).

Originally Posted by emon07

Why bother buying a new bike you have to get fixed with workaround solutions such as the PCII and PCIII and custom mapping - forget that crap - not for me

ROFL, what the hell is there to fix? The'07 which i belive is the same as the '06 is fine. Like most people, all i've changed is an exhaust and the air filter, something i'd do on any bike that i've bought. These addons that you mention are optional and in no way neccessary. My bike is like a sewing machine as it is and i'm happy with it. Owners who add power commanders, yet another option if they want to, that's the great thing about choices but the VFR def doesn't need fixing as there's nothing to fix.

I've owned a few VFR's, i missed out on the 5th gens although i'm told they have the best engines. Truth is all of the VFR's are good bikes at what they do, i still think the bike is the best sports tourer out there bar none, you just have to see the ports in the summer in the UK to see the number of VFR's getting ready for continental touring duty. A bike earns that reputation over the years, it doesn't just happen. Still doesn't stop me liking other bikes either lol, but for an all rounder, not much can touch the VFR. VTEC or not, i've had them with both types of engines, they rock, simple as that. It's a VFR after all

[keeena]

'02 VTEC owner here: I dislike the VTEC on my particular bike; theres way too much of a pronounced kick at 7k.

If it was a smoother transition I wouldn't care much one way or the other. I agree w/ others that it adds complexity to the machine. But most new technologies (like FI, LBS, ABS, etc...) are complex but not necessarily bad. If VTEC technology is the only way to have a 100hp+ bike in 10-20yrs when emissions are much stricter, so be it.

I've only owned a 6th gen VFR, but have ridden a number of other makes/models. The bike has pretty much every mod recommended to help correct the VTEC surge w/ no luck. As others mention, some 6th gen bikes have a very smooth transition while others are very abrupt.

[derstuka]

Originally Posted by Joey_Dude

hahaha! Funny shizzle Joey!

[RVFR]

Good god, I love this thread. Hell yes lets keep this one going all winter. Don't forget if it wasn't for us older models your newer versions wouldn't be where they are. 750s rule. That said, yep the VFR has had a life that no other manufacture can match, VF series through the NR to the Vtec almost a breed of its own with in Honda. it's all good. 4th gen, closest cousin to the NR, which is a bike I'd love to have. But I tell you, yes I know, some have, till you ride a 4th gen............................

[emon07]

Glad no one is mad at me for not caring for the VTEC. I have nothing bad to say to sway people to or from purchasing a 6th Gen VFR. I think any bike that works is good, I just like what I like for myself and that is all. There is nothing wrong with a 6th Gen VFR if that is what you want and like. I am not a VTEC candidate - that may end up being my loss so go figure. I am happy with my 5th Gen because it is what I want. As great of a bike my 5th Gen is it would not satisfy someone who wanted something different. Because of the VTEC engine I would not consider a new VFR, but that is just my choice, not a put down. I was looking at ST1300s and did not like that bike after doing two test rides. I am currently looking at used Kawi ZX9s and really like them. I want the second bike as a backup if my VFR is in the shop and if there are parts needed on backorder which has already happened to me with my 5th Gen VFR. I also want a second bike for trackdays.

[jasonsmith]

Originally Posted by reg71

not impressed enough with the changes made in the 6g to "upgrade".

I agree $$$ is a big factor, I will have to keep my ride forever to justify the $$.

Reg I understand what your saying... To play with another social dynamic however I would think of it as a sidegrade. Really what does the Gen 6 have in common with the rest... Engine? not really (V4 ya), Style? not really as stated in a previous post...

Originally Posted by Joey_Dude

It looks like it's out to eat children for breakfast.

...LOVE THAT!

Exhaust? nope, Sound? certainly not. The wheels are still round though.

That being said, IMO it still defines what the VFR line is all about. Taking the "sidegrade" into account, I would like to have a 86 RWB a 93 White and a Black 98 all along side my 07. Then I want to sit down with a cup of coffee and ponder what I feel like experiencing today and pick the bike that will give it to me.

As stated many times before by some very wise people it is time for a change. Really that is what makes all of our Gen's so special. Can you imagine without change... "ya but my 94 is blue and your 99 is red, so take that!"

I really would like to have all the other bikes but... would put a stop to that in a heart beat so shhhhhhh!

Now if the Gen 7 is VTEC, LBS, ABS and all the other jazz hold on to your seats!

[derstuka]

I say junk the linked brakes, VTEC, (keep the ABS) and give the ole girl a diet along with some fully adjustable forks! Can you imagine how the VFR would feel being 50+ lbs lighter?

[derstuka]

Originally Posted by jasonsmith

You know... my little guy was playing with his little circuit city radio controlled car. Then I watched the VFR police YouTooob video and BANG! it clicked, they sound the same! They must just have a bigger one's in them huh?

let the games begin.

I was thinking the same thing, however, he doesn't have an aftermarket on the ole girl to really let her "exhale!" My TB Racing has a lovely sound that I could fall in love with....

[5891Jonathan]

I think I'll abandon the entire debate and buy a Ducati 1100 dual-spark Multistrada with the Ohlins suspension bits. Now that's a fun bike!

Back to the original poster - did you really buy a 100 hp VFR as your very first motorcycle? How is that working out for you in Red Deer?

[RVFR]

Originally Posted by 5891Jonathan

I think I'll abandon the entire debate and buy a Ducati 1100 dual-spark Multistrada with the Ohlins suspension bits. Now that's a fun bike!

Back to the original poster - did you really buy a 100 hp VFR as your very first motorcycle? How is that working out for you in Red Deer?

Ah know just what you mean, even more so after watching this.

http://www.drsardonicus.com/Video/1100.wmv


Okay now you folks can get back on topic.

[Jackal_vfr]

As we move from a dependancy on oil, technologies like VTEC will become more common. Some will work, some wont but the fact that the 6th gen has been going so long must mean there is something positive from a manufacturer POV about the VTEC. Governments will become stricter with vehicle emmissions - and the continued testing of those emmissions after purchase. Perhaps we'll see the day in the not so distant future where if all a bike had was VTEC and O2 sensors we'd be happy. Perhaps Gen 8+ will be electric and Gen 6 riders will moan at the lack of internal combustion that newcomers get to ride?

I am thankful that Honda and others push the technology and allow us to keep on riding - my personal take on VTEC is you can take it or leave it - BUT I've never had a bike that gets so much from a tank whilst being such fun to ride! Times change - there are so many good bikes out there, there is no wrong choice (except perhaps a scooter - or isn't that classed as a bike - new thread!!!)

[seadooloo]

I've had my Vtec for 5 years. I Love it. I wouldn't trade it for any other gen. VFR. I do Love the sound of the gear driven cams, but the overall package of my bike is more to my liking. Most of the people who do bash the Vtec bikes are just loyal to what they have. I can't blame them for that! After all, all of the VFR's are unique and great in their own ways. Carry on, Gentleman.

[pontiacformula99]

I don't know any better, but I think you've got your answer. If you love your bike and love to ride, and you don't know any different... Who cares. enjoy it. Hell, I ride a '87 700F that I repainted to look a little better, just because I love the sound of the cams and it's what I could afford at the time. Now I wouldn't trade it for anything. I might buy another bike in addition to, but I wouldn't trade it or sell it

[VFRMike]

Love my 02 VFR but personally would have prefered increased displacement over the VTEC.

VFRMike.

[Moby]

Originally Posted by keeena