How many of you would buy a VFR 1000

[RVFR]

I am with John, sports tourer to kick ass in the twisties, then be able to go back home without having to budget for a chiropractor.

A few weeks ago we went down to the Snowy mountains for the weekend, laying rubber between Tumut, Jindabyne, Khancoban, Cabramurra (the ones in the know know what I am talking about). Besides a couple of VFR (Gen5) were a Sprint ST 1050 and a CBR600RR.

The place where you dont want to be on the boring stretch of Hume Highway from Sydney to Yass and back is the CBR.

Now once in the good twisty stuff, guess who got on top the mountain first ? If you are on this forum you all know which one (did I mention it was also the bike which happened to carry a pillion).

My mates reckon it's because I am able to unplug some part of my brain.
I say it's the bike (granted, it's my third VFR since 1992 so I am sort of starting to understand how they work).

On the track, a well-ridden CBR will likely be faster, but out there on the real roads, bring it on!

To get back to a new VFR 1000 model, some people in the thread have mentioned that the current bike was heavy and could be lighter.
But would you be willing to trade-in centerstand, single-sided swingarm for less weight ? This stuff is heavy but I'd rather keep it. The V4 engine is also inherently heavier than an inline (two sets of cylinders and heads, etc...). But we all want to keep it yes ?

A light bike feels, well, light. If this is what you want, buy a Supersport.
Granted extra weight makes it difficult to flick the bike around but come on a VFR is not a freight train Goldwing either... and that weight does somewhat contribute to the magic carpet ride of the VFR.

I am happy for a new VFR to shed some weight only as long as it retains its magic ride. Who's with me ?

Me. I am. Still could stand to gain 20Hp and lose 20lbs.

[vifferdownunder]

Me. I am. Still could stand to gain 20Hp and lose 20lbs.

I am with you too mate

[Chris71Mach1]

granted, i know that this thread is specifically looking at the possibility of a VFR1000, though i cant help but to wonder.....which would be cooler? a VFR1000RR that could compete with the fireblade, and possibly make one hell of a mark on the current literbike market, or maybe a vfr made to roll in the hypersport market to take the blackbird's place since its demise after the 2004 model year.....i mean think about it...a VFR1*00XX that would have the nice big chassis like the blackbird, hayabusa, and ZX14, a giant motor to run with those bigger bikes (ill take the 1400cc V4!), outfitted with a set of nice corbin saddle bags and a trunk big enough for my laptop.

ill tell ya right now, regardless of anything, including my love for my own 87 viffer, id be the first in line to buy a V4 hypersport bike.

[Alaskan]

I wouldn't pay a dime for a V-4 supersport. I do not want a supersport.

Would I trade my VFR for a 1000 cc sport tourer? Well, that's a good question. I haven't felt the need to trade mine in on a Triumph 1050 or a Ducati 1100 MTS, so I bet the answer is "No." Do I need more power on the street? "No!" again. My 800 is completely adequate for one-up riding with a tank bag - which is the only riding I do. If I felt it was underpowered there are several alternatives available right now that have more power than my 95-100 HP bike. And I haven't switched yet, so I must be happy.

And let me say this - I am vaguely amused by VFRWorld members who try to convince me that I am wrong and that I should be dissatisfed with my bike. It's pretty funny, really. Bigger/faster/more powerful isn't always better for everyone. But, whatever.

[Hustle]

I've seen a lot of pictures of this thing (the new VFR) floating around the web since late 2007. But these are mostly on non-U.S. sites. The funny thing is, there is still no "real" information available on the VFR1000, if it is for real, specs, release date, all that.

Can anyone help?

[KC-10 FE]

We can't even get an upgrade to the current VFR & you want Honda to make a 1000? I wouldn't hold your breath.

KC-10 FE out...

[drewl]

loch ness monster

[RVFR]

Yea, Honda is pretty tight lipped about their new models, even the folks that are CBR1000 crazy didn't see the new 1000 coming. that and for some reason those Europeans get the goods first. So with luck we'll have about a 1 month window before it's out, thats a Huge Big Ass "IF" though.

[Hustle]

have you seen the pictures of this thing though, it looks sick (whether these pics are real or fake). If you like the sportbike version. <br>
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I've also seen sketches on MCN that look like a little kid did them, but the sketches look more like a sport-tourer. <br>http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/Ne.../?&R=EPI-93661

[Hustle]

Wait...let me just throw up all 4 colors, just cuz this is so fun to dream. Hell yeah!! Pick your favorite.





The styling follows the CBR1000RR but keeps a lot of the VFR800 properties. Whoever did these did a great job!! (unless...they're actually real). And mind you, the sport bike design does fit since the VFR is in the "Sport" section on the Honda site.

[PuCaudata]

If they actually make something even slightly similar to these, I will own one.

I'm gettin' that fo sho!

[Hustle]

I actually preach to everyone I know and whoever else will listen, "neva, eva, buy a brand new vehicle of any kind." But if they come out with this fo real...I'm going straight to the stealership. Believe that. :)

[RVFR]

Now if only Honda would read this thread..

[PuCaudata]

To Honda:

If you make it, we will come.

[RVFR]

2008 Honda VFR revealed in new motorcycle patent

By Ben Purvis

New bikes

16 August 2007 10:20

Details of Honda’s 2008 VFR1000 have been revealed in a newly published motorcycle patent document – which shows the motorcycle to have a radical new frame design.

The Honda V-four sports tourer motorcycle, which gets a capacity boost to 1000cc for next year with an all-new engine, features a two-piece chassis, with separate front and rear sections. The engine itself provides the majority of the motorcycle's frame strength.

The front section of Honda motorcycle frame, incorporating the headstock, bolts to the engine in three places, but doesn’t connect directly to the swingarm pivot point. At the back of the motorcycle, there’s a separate aluminum casting which holds the swingarm, shock mounting and the seat subframe.

The patent also reveals that Honda hasn’t yet ditched the idea of a V-five engine, as one picture shows the same frame design with a five-cylinder motor bolted in place of the V-four.

See the full story in next week’s MCN, and see the full Honda motorcycle patent text and pictures here.



http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/Ne...t/?R=EPI-93661

[Alaskan]

Maybe Sargent will make a seat for it.

[RockVFR]

Hmmm, looks/shape wise it's just a CBR1000, which is kinda disappointing. The beauty of the VFR is that its a sports bike with tourer tendancies and all the perks that come with it. Based on the pics, would I buy it? Er, no. Would I buy a traditionally designed VFR with a 1000cc engine? Hell yes.

[RVFR]

Well I saw that too and it doesn't really surprise me, like you said 1000rr looks, once Honda finds something they like they'll stay with it. This might just be the major over all Honda has been working on. I also notice a conventional swing arm. Boo Waa.. 1098 is looking mighty fine if this is the case.

[Hustle]

doesn't the sketch above kind of look like the Gen 5?

[VermillionX]

I would hate to see them go to a conventional swingarm. I think that is what sets the VFR apart from all of the other Honda bikes.

[PuCaudata]

Yeah, that sketch looks a bit much like the new CBR...in other words, ugly as hell. Granted it's just a sketch...still...that doesn't look promising...not one bit.

[Hustle]

I agree, the new CBR is not a very pretty bike at all. Especially the ugly exhaust thing they have on there. However, it is suppose to be fast, lighter and better handling than anything out there right now. Ugly or not...fast sells! That's why a lot of strip clubs are still in business.

[drewl]

big foot!!!

[Molsan]

Well why would they make a vfr1000 that looks and has ergo's of a cdr1000...

the CFR needs to be distict enough to be seperate from the cbr...not just a cbr with 20 less hp and ne logo.

have some faith mainly because they won't make 2 identical bikes.

But the problem with the vfr is that it does not sell well.
I think if they added hard bags standard they would sell more. defines what it is at a glance.

[mello dude]

Anybody catch the ABS ring on the front brake?

MD

[drewl]

yeti, the abominable snow man

[whitesmokeyzf]

I wouldn't pay a dime for a V-4 supersport. I do not want a supersport.

Would I trade my VFR for a 1000 cc sport tourer? Well, that's a good question. I haven't felt the need to trade mine in on a Triumph 1050 or a Ducati 1100 MTS, so I bet the answer is "No." Do I need more power on the street? "No!" again. My 800 is completely adequate for one-up riding with a tank bag - which is the only riding I do. If I felt it was underpowered there are several alternatives available right now that have more power than my 95-100 HP bike. And I haven't switched yet, so I must be happy.

And let me say this - I am vaguely amused by VFRWorld members who try to convince me that I am wrong and that I should be dissatisfed with my bike. It's pretty funny, really. Bigger/faster/more powerful isn't always better for everyone. But, whatever.

I hear yah. I traded my 05 Hayabusa for my VFR and put My R1 forsale. Bought some beatle bags and still have a great time in the twisties or a long run. I like the quite pipes, and enjoy the different power delivery. to each their own.

[Nungboy]

Yes...if it was just like the current 6th gen, just a bit more displacment and power (and as extra sweetening, a bit less weight due to some hi-tech materials engineering) I would buy one. But, I wonder if it is worth going to "only" 1000cc's...why not 1100? Then you could offer the 781 and an 1100 at the same time.
I know, I know, I am dreaming!

[Alaskan]

The unicorn.

[John451]

A few weeks ago we went down to the Snowy mountains for the weekend (1400km round trip), laying rubber between Tumut, Jindabyne, Khancoban, Cabramurra (the ones in the know know what I am talking about).

That's the day ride I was mentioning, must admit over a weekend throwing a coast ride down and Brown Mountain / Dalgety loop with it is better.

Me. I am. Still could stand to gain 20Hp and lose 20lbs.

Well half with you, an extra 20Hp would be nice but its I that needs to loose those 20lbs...