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Old 07-16-2009, 04:25 PM   #421 (permalink)
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they first hit the market in 1986, the VFR 700/750 Interceptor bikes were anything BUT sport touring bikes, and I would doubt that Honda even saw them as being such back in 86 when the VFR750's were tearing around tracks.
Not so sure about that, if memory serves me correctly the VFR750F was still considered the sensible and comfortable Sports bike when compared against other more focused Sports machines of the time ie the RG500 Gamma and Rz500, even the also newly released 1st Gen GSXR750 was more on the race side of the fence than the first gen VFR, didn't stop the VFR winning races though.


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Old 08-13-2009, 06:02 PM   #422 (permalink)
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More Power!! argh argh argh!

Who wouldn't want more power. My bike is still plenty fast. More power would only potentially get me into more trouble. At least I'd enjoy it until I gotta pay the ticket.
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Sheesh!! some one needs to change the title to 1200cc
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Old 09-14-2009, 12:30 PM   #424 (permalink)
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Yes, or maybe even an NT700!
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Old 09-15-2009, 04:36 AM   #425 (permalink)
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Sheesh!! some one needs to change the title to 1200cc
right. do you have more info on the 1200cc - like power, two versions or just one, real pics...? :)
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I can't wait to read the rants on the 7th Generation! It undoubtedly will have ABS, linked brakes, chain-driven cams, and other technological advances. Pshaw!
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I can't wait to BUY the 7th gen.
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right. do you have more info on the 1200cc - like power, two versions or just one, real pics...? :)
Some more spy pics from Spain. link: Le foto spia della nuova Honda V4 a spasso per le Alpi



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If those "spy pics" are accurate, looks like quite the tourer!

So, really, why do VFR riders think they would be interested in this newest G? Way I see it, many here won't be satisfied with anything but a gear-whining sport-focused no-ABS no-linked-brakes throwback. Very interesting. We'll see.

Not that I believe that Honda is coming out with anything that could replace a 4th Gen! Heavens!
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Ha ha!

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Way I see it, many here won't be satisfied with anything but a gear-whining sport-focused no-ABS no-linked-brakes throwback. QUOTE]

AMEN BRO! I wont be caught dead on the gen 7. Lots of gee whiz wizzardty for the sake of gee whiz wizzardty. I think I'm done with buying honda bikes. I'll keep the 2 I got and that's it.

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yeah, it needs to be a little more race focused - i mean, when the 85-86 VF1000R came out - it was badass! gear-driven cams are awesome. this thing's just going to be another sport-tourer and that's it. i was looking at the RSV4 from Aprilia and everyone was saying "wait, wait - wait 'til the new Honda V4 comes out!".... nah, i'm sticking with the RSV4... sorry Honda
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Old 10-12-2009, 02:41 PM   #433 (permalink)
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...has anyone in here had a chance to ride a "blackbird?"....that was a bike i was interested in before i got the vfr.....but there wern`t many to be had in the "pre-owned" dept where i live.....and "if" someone has tested one i would be interested to hear your comparo....thanks


I have owned and ridden my '00 Bird for 4 years / 35,000+ miles
and have logged several 1000 mile days (thanks to the Corbin)
and consider it about the best bike I've owned, and I've owned
quite a few, Beemers included. Aside from the usual usual oil/filter,
chain/sprockets, and fresh tire changes, I've had zero issues.

Pretty good right out of the box, but some guys do make minor
suspension mods (6mm shim on rear shock to increase rear ride
height = quicker steering) but I left mine alone as it seemed good
enough for me. About the only issues they have are an occasional
CCT or R/R replacement, but therwise, they're near bullet-proof.

They ain't no Busa, but they're still scary fast for most sane folks.
I've only had mine to 158 mph once, but after backing off, I then
realized I'd never had the presence of mind (or balls) to shift to
to 6th. Embarrasing, but probably just as well as a State Trooper
passed in the opposite direction a minute later.

Forget pillion comfort - my wife hated the seating/peg ergos and
refused to ride with me for more than 30 minutes. My VFR800 is,
however, much more comfortable than the 'bird for two-up riding.

Good clean examples are becomming difficult to find, but they do
occasionally show up. Don't waste time looking on ebay - most
of the ones I've seen there have been owned by squids / retards.
Go to http://www.cbr1100xx.org website and browse the
classifieds (you'll first need to register on the site, takes 5 minutes).
They won't steer you wrong. Good buys can be had on this website,
and the ones I've seen for sale have all been well-maintained. These
guys, like VFR owners, are fanatical about Blackbirds. A cult indeed.

For a good all-around bike, however, I think the VFR is really hard
to beat, and I do LOVE my 5th gen. The 'bird is exceptionally stable
and great handling, especially in very high-speed sweepers, but at
492 pounds dry, she'll have you sweating in tight stuff like Deals Gap.
The VFR800 has about a 2" shorter wheelbase and seems to carry its
weight lower and more cetralized, so it handles better and is certainly
more flickable in tight stuff. Mileage wise, I averaged about 38 mpg w/
stock gearing, nothing to write home about but not terribly bad either.
I'd always eek out about 220 miles between fill ups (6.2 gallon tank)
yet would always have about 1/2 to 3/4 gal. remaining in the tank .

Some upgrade to VFR or HELI bars as the OEM clip-ons are low and a
long stretch, but I got used to mine, so I never changed them. Seriously
consider a Corbin or Sargent as the stock seat will leave your ass burning
after 300 miles. Trust me on this.

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Old 10-12-2009, 03:18 PM   #434 (permalink)
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All things come to an end. It is a shame that the 7th gen is so heavy... I think all of us wanted a 5th gen with delinked abs brakes drop 20+ lbs and add 20hp at any displacement with modern styling keeping it comfortable of course but honda had other plans. I think the new VFR is going to be a great bike! Just not for me yet. I am glad honda did not discontinue the vfr name and kept it as its signature leader in inovation. I hope that this bike will be a learning curve for the future and spark off other models in the middle weight class (530lbs or less) to make a sport toring bike that can be somewhat competitive on the track also under any name.
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I am with md. I want a little more sport in my sport-touring bike. The category hasn't been doing very well, though. EXCEPT the Duc MTS is looking really good right now . . . .
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BTW, can you imagine what Aprilia might come up with for a ST? The Futura was limited by its short range and weirdo-futuristic styling. Blend the RSV4 with a relaxed body position/big tank/bags and look out!!!!

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funny I would like a bit more comfort than sport , Heli bars are a must but it depends on your age , we all want different things ... sound like life
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BTW, can you imagine what Aprilia might come up with for a ST? The Futura was limited by its short range and weirdo-futuristic styling. Blend the RSV4 with a relaxed body position/big tank/bags and look out!!!!
BMWs have good range but what does the VFR get? I got 200-225 miles a tank out of the Futura.
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I Would Buy A Vfr1000r In A Heartbeat
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I'd buy a VFR1k if it combined the best features from all previous VFRs, plus maybe a couple new ones, too.

Wanted: EFI, SSSA, gear-driven cams, OEM hard bags, ABS and/or traction control, sweet looks, decent fuel economy, centerstand, chain drive, USD fork, radially mounted front brake calipers, good wind protection and comfortable ergos. Would be nice if it weighed less than 500 #s wet, too, and as long as I'm dreaming I'd like it all for under $10k OTD, please!
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Old 10-16-2009, 10:51 AM   #441 (permalink)
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I would if....
it came with gear driven cams, single sided swing arm, enough torque to pull tree stumps out of the ground, ohlins front/rear, heated grips, fully adjustable pegs/levers and at least three options for a killer paint scheme on release!
You have a great wishful thinking process but it will never happen. Aren't you guys used to being let down by Honda? From the looks at what was given to us in the form of a 1200 behemoth the only thing that comes close to what you described is the new Aprilia RSV4. I wouldn't mind throwing a leg over that bike for a test ride.
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Vfr 1000

I would if it weighed the same as the CBR 1000RR.
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I would only buy a VFR again if it DIDN'T have linked brakes, DIDN't have VTEC, DIDN'T have an automatic transmission, DIDN'T have ABS. Yeah right!
I am so sick and tired of maintaining Honda over-engineered NONSENSE that I don't want. I am at a loss for words. (printable words).
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Each one of you have some great points that show how the bike world has become stratified, both within a company and across company lines. On the one hand, there are dozens of bikes out there that might fit each one of our 'needs and wants' when it comes to a bike...on the other hand, it can be frustrating when there are so many bikes that don't quite fit our ideal of a bike. What gets really tough is when we limit ourselves by sticking with a specific company (like Honda). I have seen similar things in the guitar market, the drum market, the bicycle market, etc. Sometimes there are amazing amounts of products and NONE of them are quite right. So much of the time the obvious choices are: switch allegiance (try a different brand or style of bike), mod the heck out of something (getting harder to do nowadays in many ways and it is always expensive), or bitch (easy to do). I personally have done all of these. It is frustrating, especially when major trends (major style changes, environmental regs, major tech changes, etc.) are the problem. Sometimes we just need to vote with our pocketbook and buy another manufacturer's product.
That is the ultimate customer feedback, no?
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