How many of you would buy a VFR 1000

I'd be interested at some point in the future. In the meantime, I've got my '02 to wear out first.


Rex

[k9style00]

Gimme, gimme, gimme

[Deathwysh]

I've got a 5th Gen VFR, and I love it. I honestly don't think it needs any more power. 150mph is fast enough.

I love the engine as it is. I like the mournful howl it makes when you start to wind it out, and I love the nature of the V-4, how it pulls great down low, and still has a great kick at the top. I love that its not VTEC.

I just wish it was lighter and had a more sophisticated suspension. I don't need a 1000cc bike.

[RacerX]

I just want an rc51 that is a little comfy on a really long ride .

[two4one]

I had a Blackbird before my VFR. I put over 30,000 miles on that bike in 2+ riding seasons. What I tell everyone is the VFR is simply a better handling Blackbird. The Blackbird was great at eating miles, no doubt. Better than the VFR, but when it came to handling, obviously the Blackbird would fall short due it's larger chassis. The blackbird was also glass smooth, something the VFR will never be.

The only reason I got rid of the Blackbird was because I was simply outriding the suspension. I added stiffer springs and all but it didn't help enough. If given the choice between the Blackbird or the VFR, it's still a tough choice. I'd take the VFR because I can still run at the track in my group without issue.

[Rat]

Not me.
The VFR750/800 is just right.

I've owned several VERY powerful bikes, but after many years of riding I think the VFR750/800 is a near-perfect solution to a lot of needs and desires.

-Perfectly adequate and linear (if not exactly soul-stirring) power; copious & flat torque.
-Comfortable yet sporty riding position well-suited for twisty backroad scratching, as well as the often mind-bendingly boring miles of superslab often traversed to reach the primo twisties, and also capable of crossing entire continents when the mood strikes.
-Technically advanced enough to keep the gearheads interested, yet refined enough to essentially forget about the machine until the next oil change is due.
-Completely capable of 2-up sport-touring, yet not not at all ponderous or bloated when riding solo.

I'll pass on a VFR1000; the current displacement range is all that's needed.
Any more would be excessive for this bike.
There are plenty of other large caliber options out there already.

[grinder]

Originally Posted by Rat

Not me.
The VFR750/800 is just right.

I've owned several VERY powerful bikes, but after many years of riding I think the VFR750/800 is a near-perfect solution to a lot of needs and desires.

-Perfectly adequate and linear (if not exactly soul-stirring) power; copious & flat torque.
-Comfortable yet sporty riding position well-suited for twisty backroad scratching, as well as the often mind-bendingly boring miles of superslab often traversed to reach the primo twisties, and also capable of crossing entire continents when the mood strikes.
-Technically advanced enough to keep the gearheads interested, yet refined enough to essentially forget about the machine until the next oil change is due.
-Completely capable of 2-up sport-touring, yet not not at all ponderous or bloated when riding solo.

I'll pass on a VFR1000; the current displacement range is all that's needed.
Any more would be excessive for this bike.
There are plenty of other large caliber options out there already.

Amen!!!!!!

[RacerX]

I think it is easy to make horse power by adding displacement. Torque also just as easy . Dont get me wrong I love my VFR 800 but I could see a well made 1000cc V4 Honda that had 120 to 130 horse power and 75 to 95 fp of torque that had a wet weight under 500 pounds single sided swing arm and a comfortable seat. I would pay close to 15 thousand dollars for that.

[steveb]

nope. I'm 100% satisfied with the current VFR, if an 11.2 in the 1/4 isn't fast enough for street riding, somethings wrong lol Any racier riding position and my body wouldn't hold up.

[PorscheBob]

Originally Posted by jethro911

You need two versions, one with ergos and storage etc (long range cruise missle), and the other stripped down with rearsets and agressive handling (race bred chassis). I will take the latter.

I agree with Jethro. We need two versions...a sport bike and a touring/sport bike. Touring/sport would be my favorite flavor. "Race" bikes on the street make no sense. If you want to go fast (very fast) get a real race bike that is designed ONLY for the track. Our present VFRs are as about as sporty as my old back can tolerate.

[chesthing]

Originally Posted by Deathwysh

I've got a 5th Gen VFR, and I love it. I honestly don't think it needs any more power. 150mph is fast enough.

I love the engine as it is. I like the mournful howl it makes when you start to wind it out, and I love the nature of the V-4, how it pulls great down low, and still has a great kick at the top. I love that its not VTEC.

I just wish it was lighter and had a more sophisticated suspension. I don't need a 1000cc bike.

I agree, that's why I just installed a Penske 2-way - it's worth the $800. One could also send their forks to Linemann engineering or Traxxion Dynamics and pay $600 to take care of the front, but I'm quite happy with the RT springs and lighter fork oil: a more sophisticated suspension wish is granted for less than a grand. As far as weight, the VFR just doesnt feel that heavy to me but then my last bike was a Valkyrie!

[stewartj239]

To be honest, any more power than what the current 800 puts out, would put me outside of my comfort zone. I've been riding street since 1990 and riding / racing MX since I was 10. MX is a perfect example where most people can actually go faster on a lower displacement bike since the power is not overwhelming and is easier to keep hooked up. I believe that I have a ton of motorcycle experience under my belt, but I'm still just an "Average Joe".

[PorscheBob]

I agree with Chesthing. It is not too heavy. Here in California we get some strong coastal winds that often feel like I am going to be blown into the neighboring zip code. Any lighter, with our full fairings, and it will be downright spooky and dangerous in gusty winds. 1000cc would be great for touring and also riding two-up.

I just got back from a week trip into Oregon and several times I felt the need for more grunt in the high mountain passes...riding single. I want a bike that handles, sounds, and feels like the VFR and has the low RPM torque of the new 2008 V-Max! On the street low RPM torque is real world, not some super high RPM narrow power band that somehow gives you HP bragging rights. My 2 cents.

[alter ego]

I think a little more displacement would do it but not 1000cc's. An 849cc with increased torque would allow 2 up riding and make it even better on the street when you're out by yourself. 1000cc would require a big jump in chassis developement which would make the bottom line jump a lot. Not to mention insurance would go up too. The biggest thing I'm not a fan of now is the exhaust and the way its routed around on the current bike. Too many welds and cheap looking crossovers. Its like they got bored by then and just came up with the cheapest way to get the exhaust out the back. Aftermarket slip ons fix that. I think the current bike is great, just a few more refinements in the power and maybe that updated fork and I'm happy.

[chesthing]

Not sure what you mean by 1000 cc would allow 2-up riding? 95 hp/458 dry weight is way more than enough to haul around 2 people, just need to give a little more gas when taking off from a stop, that's the only difference I feel. That and the fact I ride way slower anyway with the wife on the back - don't want her flying off! and no, I don't wear a tshirt that says "if you can read this the bitch fell off."

[alter ego]

Originally Posted by chesthing

Not sure what you mean by 1000 cc would allow 2-up riding? 95 hp/458 dry weight is way more than enough to haul around 2 people, just need to give a little more gas when taking off from a stop, that's the only difference I feel. That and the fact I ride way slower anyway with the wife on the back - don't want her flying off! and no, I don't wear a tshirt that says "if you can read this the bitch fell off."

The additional torque would make a difference. As the bike sits it is about as powerfull as a 600 but 100lbs heavier. For anybody who's ridden a bike with more displacement this is a shortcoming that could be addressed. Its not impossible to ride two up but its necessary to ride a gear down for accelleration when you need it if you have two people on..... I ride a lot slower with my girlfriend on the back so to have more low end torque would be great. The HP doesn't pull you, the torque does and with displacement comes torque.

[midias]

Something like this would be tits

[RacerX]

I think that is a great Bike but to sell a bunch of them witch is what Honda needs to do. The styling would need an updated. I am not an art /style type but that just looks dated to me but not old enough to be retro. I would love to ride it though.

[midias]

Originally Posted by Biketoc

I think that is a great Bike but to sell a bunch of them witch is what Honda needs to do. The styling would need an updated. I am not an art /style type but that just looks dated to me but not old enough to be retro. I would love to ride it though.

That bike belongs to VF1000RS from the v4hondabbs board I think it is amazing example of what a 1986 VFR1000R can become

[nozzle]

1000cc is great, 1200cc is better... the power it makes is something that any Tim-the-Toolman would want, but I just don't need it for how I ride. I got a the Interceptor over the K1200GT in part because I didn't need the extra cc's for my intended purpose.

If and 08 VFR is 1000 or 1200 cc's and my bike disappears, I'd look at the BMW, the new Concours and the new bike again, but probably would not get a first year model with a new engine.

If the 08 Interceptor is an 800, a 1200 or something inbetween, I've got no need to buy for now. So, no I wouldn't buy a VFR 1000 - right now.

[chesthing]

Originally Posted by alter ego

The additional torque would make a difference. As the bike sits it is about as powerfull as a 600 but 100lbs heavier. For anybody who's ridden a bike with more displacement this is a shortcoming that could be addressed. Its not impossible to ride two up but its necessary to ride a gear down for accelleration when you need it if you have two people on..... I ride a lot slower with my girlfriend on the back so to have more low end torque would be great. The HP doesn't pull you, the torque does and with displacement comes torque.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree here. I don't feel the need to go a gear lower for extra accellaration because I don't want my wife flying off the rear and she doesnt like to go that fast anyway. Extra power is simply useless with the wife on the back.

[midias]

Originally Posted by chesthing

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree here. I don't feel the need to go a gear lower for extra accellaration because I don't want my wife flying off the rear and she doesnt like to go that fast anyway. Extra power is simply useless with the wife on the back.

Damn I hear that My girl won't even get on the VFR but she does love the Magna and Valk

[Headhunter]

I am dying for one.

[hottstuff_284]

It seems that every time a new model comes out, it get more technologically advanced which is great, until you have to work on it.

[sussi]

Originally Posted by R.W.

Just out of curiosity, how many VFR riders would buy a VFR 1000...

If honda wouldmake them it would be one of my top 10 wet dreams

[sussi]

Originally Posted by JRotten

I don't know what thread I read, but I remember seeing a new concept bike based on several current bikes. It was basically a beefed up RC211 engine with a 1200cc displacement, longer wheelbase borrowed from CBR Blackbird, and has the esstetics of the G6 VFR. It was intended to be somewhat of a super sport tourer that even has custom saddlebags. The picture I saw was of a real proto type and it did look awesome. I thought this might of been Hondas answer to the compete with the Hayabusa and Ninja 1400, but I haven't seen anything else about that bike.

As for a basic VFR with a 1000cc V-4 engine would be great if the suspension and brakes were up-graded. My basic complaints about the VFR has been mostly been about the suspension. The front forks lack the adjustablity (compression and rebound damping). The current engine with the V-tec still leaves me questioning on terms of reliability and I would to see a gear driven cam engine spooning out more torque/horsepower from a 1000cc.

One last thought. If the engine is bigger, how would the fuel consumption be? I really do enjoy the fuel range that I have now (250-275 miles per tank), but some of my riding buddies don't like large tanks because (it weighs too much). For myself, a 6.5 gallon tank would be idea if the weigh can be CG can be lowered for better handling.

That's my 2 cents worth....

It was in MC news some years ago...3-4years I think.

[JES_VFR]

Originally Posted by jchag1718

Gear driven cams, 1000cc's, twin-spar frame, single-sided swing-arm...Are you kidding...Hell yes!

Yeah that would get my attention.
or

Take the current 781cc motor and let it really be a 800+cc motor. Put the gear driven cams back in and reduce the weight by a big chunk (80-90#).
That would also get my attention.

[chesthing]

Originally Posted by JES_VFR

Yeah that would get my attention.
or

Take the current 781cc motor and let it really be a 800+cc motor. Put the gear driven cams back in and reduce the weight by a big chunk (80-90#).
That would also get my attention.

Reduce the weight by 80-90# and you have a race replica.
1000cc v5 basically the same bike out now but with gear driven cams no vtec and fully adjustable suspension, I'd pony up 12k, and I'm cheaper'n hell.

[NYMBYSS]

to answer your question ,,,yes i would but 1000cc vfr in my opinion it should always have been 1000cc's

[John451]

Originally Posted by NYMBYSS

vfr in my opinion it should always have been 1000cc's

Whether touring or scratching have founds my Gen 5's 800cc's enough for my riding needs.

Personally think the VFR750 in '86 was the right capacity for its market at the time. Honda had the VF1000R for the richer go faster mob and CBR1000F for the folks wanting a large capacity heavier sports Tourer.

When the VFR went from 750 to 800 in '97 the CBR1100 Blackbird was Honda's newly launched big bore Sports tourer so again no real reason to have two similar spec machines fighting for sales in the same area of the market place.

Where it does make sense is now when the SuperBlackbird is about to cease ( has ceased ? ) production and the current 2002 VFR is starting get a little stale and in dire need of a major freshen up, hopefully Hondas idea is not the dull new CB1000F the Europeans have been forced to buy.