How many of you would buy a VFR 1000 - Page 4

Taz · 10-08-2007, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Biketoc

I just want an rc51 that is a little comfy on a really long ride .

Um, er ah, that would be the Honda Super Hawk ( a.k.a. "Super Chicken" )

Taz · 10-08-2007, 11:33 AM

As for a modern VFR 1000, (See my avitar Bike list).

but Everything most of you described is "WHY" I bought the '06 Triumph Sprint ST, although it's not a V-4, it does have a awsome engine note.

It was what I wanted Honda to do for years & wouldn't, & since I own both, I can make these comparisons.

Honda VFR
800 cc
108 hp
SSSA-Yes
Motor-V-4
under tail exhaust
Hard bags-additional cost
handles well
brakes linked, option linked ABS
Great gas milage
Reliable
Good looks

Triumph Sprint ST
1050cc
138HP
SSSA-yes
Motor-Inline 3
Undertail exhaust
hard bags come with purchase
handles well
Brakes: Non-Linked (thank God !) Non-linked ABS option
Great gas milage
reliable
great looks

So basically the same wth the differences of Engine config, decplacement, brakes, & HP as to what I wanted & waited for for years from Honda & didn't get.

Now since I have the Sprint, Suped up VFR, & a '04 VFR, the only thing for Honda to do is make a Sportbike/Superbike V-4 900/1000 or RC61 V-2, to bring me back

!

R.W. · 10-09-2007, 07:14 PM

Started looking at Jays picture and found the french web site where this picture originated, took me 30 minutes to learn how to make my computer translate french and the translation is a little rough but I thought this was interesting...

Honda VFR 1000
VFR 1000: the return to the roots

What can one reproach the VFR 800 V-tec well? Certainly not its rigour. Then, for 2008, Honda could approach the original spirit of its motor bike launched in 1998 and reinforce the links which then linked it with the competition.

Honda VFR 1000

Admittedly, the last years saw the reinforced road qualities and the performances of the VFR. The last evolution of the motor bike, which embarks variable distribution V-tec and ABS since 2001, is not made to dominate the comparative ones and to attract comments praising the rigour of its design. And it is justified: the VFR, except a lack of imagination to control, does not deserve that praises so much the homogeneity of its behavior is obvious. Then, to approach its initial spirit today, Honda could reposition its motor bike towards more sportivity. Wasn't the VFR in other time a cousin close to the RC 30 and another RC 45, which has to offer her 4-cyclindres out of V before disappearing? Yes, the VFR over the years is more geared toward touring and not involved in the sporting crenel, leaving this noble task to the CBR 1000 RR.

Without anything to change with the bases of its motor bike, Honda could thus soon reveal a mounting whose V4, more generous of cubic capacity, would propose an exploitation definitely more sporting. One questions oneself then as for the utility of the variable distribution, more inclined to meet needs specific to the road motor bikes. One likes to imagine a machine comfortably accumulating the miles, but especially all been willing to stimulate the Egro's by the power and the neat character of his mechanics. ABS would not be quite obvious step called into question, but one would appreciate the arrival of a radial device, just like that of an entirely adjustable reversed fork. Side line, the austerity of the current model has its place with a more dynamic reinterpretation, consequently approaching the spirit inspired by the CBR 1000 RR. A return to the root's and in force.

Taz · 10-10-2007, 01:16 PM

Ohhhh, if they would only make that, I'd snag 2 & race one of them

emon07 · 10-10-2007, 02:23 PM

I would like a VFR 1000 if it did not have a VTEC engine, the weight was comparable to the new CBR 1000, if Honda provides accessories such as bags and high mount exhaust, and also I want dual brake disc in front and rear. Also most importantly Honda needs to use a heavy duty heavy gague harness and a reliable rectifier & stator, and the bike needs a battery level meter (in other words build the bike without cutting corners). I would like the VFR 1000 to be an improvement over the VFR 800 and setup to be a tourer (intercom with a radio/CD and bluetooth for MP3 players and hands free phone usage - a GPS option would be good also).

Pearl-93 · 10-10-2007, 02:40 PM

Probably been said already...

Count me in on the VFR 1000 if:
Gear driven cams were provided
And options on the paint:
I'd like to see the Pearl Cyrstal White make a comeback, maybe with some really crazy decal scheme

If this were the case I'd blow my money in a heartbeat on one!!!

two4one · 10-11-2007, 12:34 PM

I want to potentially save you guys some cash. I recently purchased an '08 KLR650. If you want to make your 800 feel like a rocket, spend about 2 days on the KLR then mount the VFR, instant "holy shit this is fast" feeling :)

RacerX · 10-11-2007, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R.W.

Started looking at Jays picture and found the french web site where this picture originated, took me 30 minutes to learn how to make my computer translate french and the translation is a little rough but I thought this was interesting...

http://translate.google.com/translat...2d25049%2ehtml

Honda VFR 1000
VFR 1000: the return to the roots

What can one reproach the VFR 800 V-tec well? Certainly not its rigour. Then, for 2008, Honda could approach the original spirit of its motor bike launched in 1998 and reinforce the links which then linked it with the competition.

Honda VFR 1000

Admittedly, the last years saw the reinforced road qualities and the performances of the VFR. The last evolution of the motor bike, which embarks variable distribution V-tec and ABS since 2001, is not made to dominate the comparative ones and to attract comments praising the rigour of its design. And it is justified: the VFR, except a lack of imagination to control, does not deserve that praises so much the homogeneity of its behavior is obvious. Then, to approach its initial spirit today, Honda could reposition its motor bike towards more sportivity. Wasn't the VFR in other time a cousin close to the RC 30 and another RC 45, which has to offer her 4-cyclindres out of V before disappearing? Yes, the VFR over the years is more geared toward touring and not involved in the sporting crenel, leaving this noble task to the CBR 1000 RR.

Without anything to change with the bases of its motor bike, Honda could thus soon reveal a mounting whose V4, more generous of cubic capacity, would propose an exploitation definitely more sporting. One questions oneself then as for the utility of the variable distribution, more inclined to meet needs specific to the road motor bikes. One likes to imagine a machine comfortably accumulating the miles, but especially all been willing to stimulate the Egro's by the power and the neat character of his mechanics. ABS would not be quite obvious step called into question, but one would appreciate the arrival of a radial device, just like that of an entirely adjustable reversed fork. Side line, the austerity of the current model has its place with a more dynamic reinterpretation, consequently approaching the spirit inspired by the CBR 1000 RR. A return to the root's and in force.

I would sell my soul to the devil for that bike.

I would still need 12 thousand dollars though.

Taz · 10-12-2007, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by two4one

I want to potentially save you guys some cash. I recently purchased an '08 KLR650. If you want to make your 800 feel like a rocket, spend about 2 days on the KLR then mount the VFR, instant "holy shit this is fast" feeling :)

true but (see my avitar) I ride a different bike every day, & hate to tell you, the VFR 5th& 6th gen, is not a RR, it's a sport Tourer, with a little more towards sport. But I can tell you it can be a snail compared to others

.

Reason to as why it would be nice to see a long awaited upgrade to a 1000, as per this topic

dale-j · 10-12-2007, 01:47 PM

While I've said before that I'd wait to see a 990-1000cc V-5 before I lay down the cash to replace my aging 3G VFR, I recently had the opportunity to ride a new 2007 CBR600RR. This has made me realize just how much more fun a lighter VFR would be.

On top of it, in BC, our insurance is classed by cc's and the relevant ones are 401-750cc's and then 751-1150cc's. My old VFR fits a much cheaper class than the new "800"s and the new VFR doesn't offer much performance for the higher insurance cost, or the cost of getting in to a new and more complicated bike for that matter.

The CBR fits the cheaper class, and while it is no VFR for ergos and smoothness, *WOW* what suspension, what brakes, what handling, what power - and yes, it has midrange...mostly due I think to the fact that it is *SO* light and this pays off in *every* area.

I'd like to see the VFR get back to its roots as a middleweight do-everything bike and forget about pursuing technology for technonlgy's sake. Make it light (!!!), give it suspension, brakes and power to weight ratio of the new 600RR and make it a better street/touring bike - keep the classic VFR ergos, smoothness and wind protection. I'm fighting the urge to just get a new 600RR but it has too much midrange vibration and the ergos are just not quite there for me.

A bigger VFR is really already covered in the market with the Sprint ST, the CBR 1100XX and all the other Hypertourers like the new Connie 14, ST1300, FJR1300 etc. What we really don't have is a good, new, middleweight option that's not overweight, overcomplicated and under-spec'd. A light, top shelf VFR would clean up in this class against the light all-rounders (BMW F800, SV650, Versys, Street Triple) as well as the bigger hypertourers in my books.

Even if they do go with a bigger engine, I'd like to see the bike go with top shelf bits, and keep it simple, effective and light. Anyone remember the Aprilia Futura? Just add Honda reliability and make it a V4.

DAN-SLO · 10-16-2007, 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Biketoc

I would sell my soul to the devil for that bike.

I would still need 12 thousand dollars though.

That makes two of us.
1000cc count me in

NeverlosT · 10-16-2007, 06:17 AM

Id like the VFR if it had another 15 or 20.... or 30 horses. That MUST be feasible, I mean, it is 800cc's and so many 600's today are making 130 HP or better. I want to be able to power wheelie in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. All with the same sound and flickability. I say, put the Viffer on a diet, juice up that motor (perhaps to 1000cc) and do it before I am too old to ride the damn thing!

929rob · 11-04-2007, 03:36 PM

If Honda would make one with the power and weight of my cbr 929 but with the comfort level of the vfr I'd buy two. One for now and one for when I wear the first one out. I've been looking at the Triumph st 1050 and when it comes time for a new bike, I might buy one if Honda doesn't update the vfr.

n0regret5 · 11-05-2007, 12:21 AM

i damn near bought a vfr1000..i found a few pics online (very hard to find!!) and thought, that is a STUNNER of a bike for being 20 years old (and i'm only just older than it), there was a guy who had one online for ages, no interest, price dropped dramatically and i was like, shit yeh, i'll have it. organised to go see it, and a couple days before, it sold to someone else..gutted!! but i just got myself an NC30 and to be honest, i prefer something i can biff into corners with fair abandon!
single sided swingarm would be trick..easy to remedy. gear driven cams..well, with proper care, the vfr1000 (note: not vf1000 *shudders*) were notoriously long-lasting engines.
to be totally honest, i'm a bit of a poser when it comes to bikes..and something that mentally huge and heavy and gorgeous would keep me happy for a long time!
keeping my eyes peeled for another one for sure.

n0regret5 · 11-05-2007, 12:25 AM

also..to go along with everyone wanting a V5 engine (i'm doing engine mechanics), the cost of producing such an engine would probably be another nr500/750 fiasco for dear old honda..i would kill for a 1000cc V4 super light bike, single sided swingarm or not..but i doubt (even after the awesome history of it) there will be too much more progress in the v4 faction..and yes, it makes me cry inside!!

n0regret5 · 11-05-2007, 12:31 AM

i apologise..its currently only heresay but..
http://sameerkumar.blogspot.com/2007...2008-2009.html
and
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/Ne...orcyclepatent/

fingers crossed!

Nailer45 · 11-05-2007, 05:33 AM

I just wish that Honda would get off its lazy a$$ and build the VFR to be more sport than touring.. Yes go ahead and build a 1000cc V4 with gear driven cams /NO VTEC/ 125-150 hp/ suspension upgrade and better wiring system..

For the Vtec lovers build a touring model 1000 V4 with side bags /heated grips/ cup holder/ adjustable windscreen/ and lower the vtec operation point to 6000 rpm.

I bought my 99 VFR because it was more of a sport bike than touring and because the reliability of the gear driven cams and the "almost" bulletproof V4 engine design which has proven itself to last for many hard miles on the track and on the road..

Honda , if they build a 1000 V4 VFR it must have the quality of past generations and the urge to eat that GSXR up and spit it out ..

TheoriginalDuplicate · 11-05-2007, 07:09 AM

From what I've read they are going to do away with the VTEC in the 2009 vfr1000... If they do that I would be in. In my mind it's a pain in the ***. But then again I've never driven a 2005+ vtec or a non vtec gear driven cams so I prolly don't know what I'm talking about.

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10-09-2007, 07:14 PM	#93 (permalink)
R.W. Uber Guru Join Date: Jul 2006 Last Online: Today 09:02 PM Location: Russian River CA - Find Me! My Ride: 99 VFR View my Photo Gallery Posts: 1,178 Thanks: 5 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	Started looking at Jays picture and found the french web site where this picture originated, took me 30 minutes to learn how to make my computer translate french and the translation is a little rough but I thought this was interesting... Honda VFR 1000 VFR 1000: the return to the roots What can one reproach the VFR 800 V-tec well? Certainly not its rigour. Then, for 2008, Honda could approach the original spirit of its motor bike launched in 1998 and reinforce the links which then linked it with the competition. Honda VFR 1000 Admittedly, the last years saw the reinforced road qualities and the performances of the VFR. The last evolution of the motor bike, which embarks variable distribution V-tec and ABS since 2001, is not made to dominate the comparative ones and to attract comments praising the rigour of its design. And it is justified: the VFR, except a lack of imagination to control, does not deserve that praises so much the homogeneity of its behavior is obvious. Then, to approach its initial spirit today, Honda could reposition its motor bike towards more sportivity. Wasn't the VFR in other time a cousin close to the RC 30 and another RC 45, which has to offer her 4-cyclindres out of V before disappearing? Yes, the VFR over the years is more geared toward touring and not involved in the sporting crenel, leaving this noble task to the CBR 1000 RR. Without anything to change with the bases of its motor bike, Honda could thus soon reveal a mounting whose V4, more generous of cubic capacity, would propose an exploitation definitely more sporting. One questions oneself then as for the utility of the variable distribution, more inclined to meet needs specific to the road motor bikes. One likes to imagine a machine comfortably accumulating the miles, but especially all been willing to stimulate the Egro's by the power and the neat character of his mechanics. ABS would not be quite obvious step called into question, but one would appreciate the arrival of a radial device, just like that of an entirely adjustable reversed fork. Side line, the austerity of the current model has its place with a more dynamic reinterpretation, consequently approaching the spirit inspired by the CBR 1000 RR. A return to the root's and in force. __________________ Member- 5G Brotherhood Life begins at 45 degrees Last edited by R.W.; 12-07-2007 at 02:14 PM.

10-10-2007, 02:23 PM	#95 (permalink)
emon07 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Last Online: 12-17-2008 04:10 PM Location: Queens, NYC My Ride: Lee Parks Advanced Rider Coach 2K Honda VFR, 94 Suzuki Intruder VS800, 83 Honda GoldWing Aspencade View my Photo Gallery Posts: 404 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts	I would like a VFR 1000 if it did not have a VTEC engine, the weight was comparable to the new CBR 1000, if Honda provides accessories such as bags and high mount exhaust, and also I want dual brake disc in front and rear. Also most importantly Honda needs to use a heavy duty heavy gague harness and a reliable rectifier & stator, and the bike needs a battery level meter (in other words build the bike without cutting corners). I would like the VFR 1000 to be an improvement over the VFR 800 and setup to be a tourer (intercom with a radio/CD and bluetooth for MP3 players and hands free phone usage - a GPS option would be good also). __________________ People do not care how much you know until they know how much you care!!!

10-12-2007, 01:47 PM	#100 (permalink)
dale-j Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Last Online: 11-22-2008 07:46 PM Location: British Columbia, Canada - Find Me! My Ride: 1989 FJ1200 (sold) 1993 VFR750 View my Photo Gallery Posts: 156 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	While I've said before that I'd wait to see a 990-1000cc V-5 before I lay down the cash to replace my aging 3G VFR, I recently had the opportunity to ride a new 2007 CBR600RR. This has made me realize just how much more fun a lighter VFR would be. On top of it, in BC, our insurance is classed by cc's and the relevant ones are 401-750cc's and then 751-1150cc's. My old VFR fits a much cheaper class than the new "800"s and the new VFR doesn't offer much performance for the higher insurance cost, or the cost of getting in to a new and more complicated bike for that matter. The CBR fits the cheaper class, and while it is no VFR for ergos and smoothness, WOW what suspension, what brakes, what handling, what power - and yes, it has midrange...mostly due I think to the fact that it is SO light and this pays off in every area. I'd like to see the VFR get back to its roots as a middleweight do-everything bike and forget about pursuing technology for technonlgy's sake. Make it light (!!!), give it suspension, brakes and power to weight ratio of the new 600RR and make it a better street/touring bike - keep the classic VFR ergos, smoothness and wind protection. I'm fighting the urge to just get a new 600RR but it has too much midrange vibration and the ergos are just not quite there for me. A bigger VFR is really already covered in the market with the Sprint ST, the CBR 1100XX and all the other Hypertourers like the new Connie 14, ST1300, FJR1300 etc. What we really don't have is a good, new, middleweight option that's not overweight, overcomplicated and under-spec'd. A light, top shelf VFR would clean up in this class against the light all-rounders (BMW F800, SV650, Versys, Street Triple) as well as the bigger hypertourers in my books. Even if they do go with a bigger engine, I'd like to see the bike go with top shelf bits, and keep it simple, effective and light. Anyone remember the Aprilia Futura? Just add Honda reliability and make it a V4. __________________ Steve Dale-Johnson Delta, BC 1981 XL80S (first bike, bought new in '81) 1990 GSXR750 (sold after the great ticket fiasco) 2003 CBR954 (wadded into a little ball) 1989 FJ1200 (sold) 1993 VFR750 (fighter conversion - now sold) 1979 Yamaha RD400 Daytona Special cafe racer Honda! Where's my 7th Gen VFR????

10-16-2007, 06:17 AM	#102 (permalink)
NeverlosT Professional Bra-Fitter Join Date: Jan 2007 Last Online: 01-05-2009 06:23 PM Location: Narragansett, RI - Find Me! My Ride: 2007 VFR in RWB View my Photo Gallery Posts: 422 Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Id like the VFR if it had another 15 or 20.... or 30 horses. That MUST be feasible, I mean, it is 800cc's and so many 600's today are making 130 HP or better. I want to be able to power wheelie in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. All with the same sound and flickability. I say, put the Viffer on a diet, juice up that motor (perhaps to 1000cc) and do it before I am too old to ride the damn thing! __________________ Keep the rubber side down! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwHMYnbbBd4 ======================================== ======================================== ***************** ======================================== Proud Member - Sixth Gen Militia - 1st VTEC Battalion ========================================

10-08-2007, 11:33 AM	#92 (permalink)
Taz Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Last Online: 08-08-2008 11:44 PM Location: from SoCal, now in Utah My Ride: '05VFR800(blown motor) with a 86VF1000r HRC motor & what a rocket, '06 Triumph 1050 Sprint ST, '05 RC51, 2000F4 600, '04VFR800, 91F2 600, KTM625SMC,89 Hawk GT647, & too many more to list. Posts: 502 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	As for a modern VFR 1000, (See my avitar Bike list). but Everything most of you described is "WHY" I bought the '06 Triumph Sprint ST, although it's not a V-4, it does have a awsome engine note. It was what I wanted Honda to do for years & wouldn't, & since I own both, I can make these comparisons. Honda VFR 800 cc 108 hp SSSA-Yes Motor-V-4 under tail exhaust Hard bags-additional cost handles well brakes linked, option linked ABS Great gas milage Reliable Good looks Triumph Sprint ST 1050cc 138HP SSSA-yes Motor-Inline 3 Undertail exhaust hard bags come with purchase handles well Brakes: Non-Linked (thank God !) Non-linked ABS option Great gas milage reliable great looks So basically the same wth the differences of Engine config, decplacement, brakes, & HP as to what I wanted & waited for for years from Honda & didn't get. Now since I have the Sprint, Suped up VFR, & a '04 VFR, the only thing for Honda to do is make a Sportbike/Superbike V-4 900/1000 or RC61 V-2, to bring me back !

10-10-2007, 01:16 PM	#94 (permalink)
Taz Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Last Online: 08-08-2008 11:44 PM Location: from SoCal, now in Utah My Ride: '05VFR800(blown motor) with a 86VF1000r HRC motor & what a rocket, '06 Triumph 1050 Sprint ST, '05 RC51, 2000F4 600, '04VFR800, 91F2 600, KTM625SMC,89 Hawk GT647, & too many more to list. Posts: 502 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	Ohhhh, if they would only make that, I'd snag 2 & race one of them

10-10-2007, 02:40 PM	#96 (permalink)
Pearl-93 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Last Online: 12-18-2008 11:36 AM Location: Elkridge, MD My Ride: 1993 Honda VFR750F (Pearl Crystal White) Posts: 191 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Probably been said already... Count me in on the VFR 1000 if: Gear driven cams were provided And options on the paint: I'd like to see the Pearl Cyrstal White make a comeback, maybe with some really crazy decal scheme If this were the case I'd blow my money in a heartbeat on one!!!

10-11-2007, 12:34 PM	#97 (permalink)
two4one Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Last Online: Today 02:03 PM Location: Kenhorst, PA My Ride: 2003 VFR View my Photo Gallery Posts: 345 Thanks: 2 Thanked 13 Times in 11 Posts	I want to potentially save you guys some cash. I recently purchased an '08 KLR650. If you want to make your 800 feel like a rocket, spend about 2 days on the KLR then mount the VFR, instant "holy shit this is fast" feeling :)

11-04-2007, 03:36 PM	#103 (permalink)
929rob Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Last Online: 11-22-2008 02:07 PM Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	If Honda would make one with the power and weight of my cbr 929 but with the comfort level of the vfr I'd buy two. One for now and one for when I wear the first one out. I've been looking at the Triumph st 1050 and when it comes time for a new bike, I might buy one if Honda doesn't update the vfr.

11-05-2007, 12:21 AM	#104 (permalink)
n0regret5 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Last Online: 11-05-2007 12:31 AM Location: New Plymouth My Ride: 1990 Honda VFR400R (nc30) Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	i damn near bought a vfr1000..i found a few pics online (very hard to find!!) and thought, that is a STUNNER of a bike for being 20 years old (and i'm only just older than it), there was a guy who had one online for ages, no interest, price dropped dramatically and i was like, shit yeh, i'll have it. organised to go see it, and a couple days before, it sold to someone else..gutted!! but i just got myself an NC30 and to be honest, i prefer something i can biff into corners with fair abandon! single sided swingarm would be trick..easy to remedy. gear driven cams..well, with proper care, the vfr1000 (note: not vf1000 shudders) were notoriously long-lasting engines. to be totally honest, i'm a bit of a poser when it comes to bikes..and something that mentally huge and heavy and gorgeous would keep me happy for a long time! keeping my eyes peeled for another one for sure.

11-05-2007, 12:25 AM	#105 (permalink)
n0regret5 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Last Online: 11-05-2007 12:31 AM Location: New Plymouth My Ride: 1990 Honda VFR400R (nc30) Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	also..to go along with everyone wanting a V5 engine (i'm doing engine mechanics), the cost of producing such an engine would probably be another nr500/750 fiasco for dear old honda..i would kill for a 1000cc V4 super light bike, single sided swingarm or not..but i doubt (even after the awesome history of it) there will be too much more progress in the v4 faction..and yes, it makes me cry inside!!

11-05-2007, 12:31 AM	#106 (permalink)
n0regret5 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Last Online: 11-05-2007 12:31 AM Location: New Plymouth My Ride: 1990 Honda VFR400R (nc30) Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	i apologise..its currently only heresay but.. http://sameerkumar.blogspot.com/2007...2008-2009.html and http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/Ne...orcyclepatent/ fingers crossed!

11-05-2007, 05:33 AM	#107 (permalink)
Nailer45 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Last Online: 11-02-2008 05:51 AM Location: Herrin,,ILLINOIS My Ride: 1999 Honda VFR800FI with 27,000 miles and climbing.. View my Photo Gallery Posts: 292 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	I just wish that Honda would get off its lazy a$$ and build the VFR to be more sport than touring.. Yes go ahead and build a 1000cc V4 with gear driven cams /NO VTEC/ 125-150 hp/ suspension upgrade and better wiring system.. For the Vtec lovers build a touring model 1000 V4 with side bags /heated grips/ cup holder/ adjustable windscreen/ and lower the vtec operation point to 6000 rpm. I bought my 99 VFR because it was more of a sport bike than touring and because the reliability of the gear driven cams and the "almost" bulletproof V4 engine design which has proven itself to last for many hard miles on the track and on the road.. Honda , if they build a 1000 V4 VFR it must have the quality of past generations and the urge to eat that GSXR up and spit it out ..

11-05-2007, 07:09 AM	#108 (permalink)
TheoriginalDuplicate Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Last Online: 05-01-2008 09:16 AM My Ride: 2002 Honda VFR800 View my Photo Gallery Posts: 22 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	From what I've read they are going to do away with the VTEC in the 2009 vfr1000... If they do that I would be in. In my mind it's a pain in the ***. But then again I've never driven a 2005+ vtec or a non vtec gear driven cams so I prolly don't know what I'm talking about.