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Old 12-07-2007, 01:20 PM   #121 (permalink)
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I seem to remember hearing somewhere that Moto GP was considering moving displacement down to 800cc.
I love my Intercepter, just give it a little more punch. You don't really need to make it 1000cc, just put the technology in the 800 to make it a little stronger.
Yeah - MotoGP bikes are 800cc now -have been for this year. Hondas is a V4 as is the series winning Ducati.

An 800 with more punch would fit the bill too.....

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Old 12-07-2007, 01:47 PM   #122 (permalink)
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Yeah - MotoGP bikes are 800cc now -have been for this year. Hondas is a V4 as is the series winning Ducati.

An 800 with more punch would fit the bill too.....

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I could diffently live with a revamped 800, they have the technology now and could easily bump it up 20 hp with a little more torque, I was just reading the stock 848 from Ducati is putting out 134 HP



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Old 12-07-2007, 01:55 PM   #123 (permalink)
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I could diffently live with a revamped 800, they have the technology now and could easily bump it up 20 hp with a little more torque, I was just reading the stock 848 from Ducati is putting out 134 HP
are you kidding me? that thing is getting more tempting all the time. man character and HP. now if they could just give it reliability... who knows maybe they will have it this time... speaking of character check out this bike I saw on craigslist today -> http://slo.craigslist.org/mcy/501279798.html
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Old 12-07-2007, 02:35 PM   #124 (permalink)
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ABSOLUTELY!! Gear driven cams--single sided swingarm--ergos of a 1996 VFR--no linked brakes or VTEC--body work of a 2006--paint scheme in red or red/white/blue(1986) and 30 pounds lighter than current model. Also 4 into one pipe that rides on left exposing entire wheel to 'victims of 1000cc VFR' as you blow by! I will cherish my 86 but would love to add this bike to my garage.
I'm for all of this other than the single sided exhaust, I'm a fan of the underseat dual exhaust. And I am a fan of my ABS on my 2005 so I would keep ABS but have the ability to turn it off like some of the other bikes out there with that feature.
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Old 12-07-2007, 03:06 PM   #125 (permalink)
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What year ST ?

Because your the 1st of hundreds that have tried one (including the magazine write ups) that said it was uncomfortable
I bought the ABS '06 model because It had everything the VFR did (except the V-4, & a un motorcycling feel of linked brakes, but the triple sounds just as good) plus bigger CC's & HP as well as the '07/'08 is even more comfortable.
I own VFR's & the Sprint & I got the Sprint because it had what I was tired of waiting from Honda to do what they should of produced .

If Honda finally upgrades her, I'll get one, tell then Not a chance.

look @ my comparison of the 2 @ the beginning of this thread.
a 2007 and it was mainly the seat. I know that can be fixed but even then it didn't have the pull the Futura did.
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Old 12-07-2007, 04:30 PM   #126 (permalink)
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yes yes yes more power ha ha ha ha!! as long as the ride is still comfortable ill take one all day long
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I seem to remember hearing somewhere that Moto GP was considering moving displacement down to 800cc.
I love my Intercepter, just give it a little more punch. You don't really need to make it 1000cc, just put the technology in the 800 to make it a little stronger.
You're absolutely correct and it would not be hard for Honda to get a nother 20-30hp out of the current 800cc motor. In order to do this though Honda would have to increase compression and do some tuning, possibly upgrade the Vtec system to operate off of throttle position vice rpm. Could be done if every one was willing to purchase higher octane fuel.
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MAYBE, ......if i could get a written guarantee of free replacement voltage regulators for life!
Ha, even Hondas aren't immune to this.
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Interesting thread, and I've thought about this a lot as I wonder what I would do if I had to replace my VFR.

Here's my two cents:

900cc V-4 engine w/ gear-driven cams

Real-world 5th Gen ergos and riding position

40-50 lbs lighter than 5th gen model

Adjustable suspension w/o HMAS

Radial, unlinked brakes

Single-sided swingarm with center stand

Hard points for attaching luggage.

Steel tank for use with magnetic tank bag.
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Interesting thread, and I've thought about this a lot as I wonder what I would do if I had to replace my VFR.

Here's my two cents:

900cc V-4 engine w/ gear-driven cams

Real-world 5th Gen ergos and riding position

40-50 lbs lighter than 5th gen model

Adjustable suspension w/o HMAS

Radial, unlinked brakes

Single-sided swingarm with center stand

Hard points for attaching luggage.

Steel tank for use with magnetic tank bag.
maybe without the steel tank
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Reason I mentioned the steel tank is that being able to mount a magnetic tank bag is very, very convenient. I'm struggling with finding a solution for my 600RR, and having to use a strap-based tank bag is a real hassle.
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Two VFR models are needed. A 1000cc "Touring/Sport" bike with real world ergos.

* Of course...gear-driven cams, no VTEC, and rewired R/Rs.
Oh, and looks like a '98/99 VFR and has super torque at low RPM. HP around 150 would be nice.

Second model...800cc "Sport" bike with rickey-racer ergos and light weight.
HP at least 130 and maybe a 7 speed tranny. Gear-driven cams a must.

My 3 cents...(inflation)
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I wonder if Honda has seen this thread Hey! Honda! you listening or in this case reading...
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I wonder if Honda has seen this thread Hey! Honda! you listening or in this case reading...
Please don't take this the wrong way but I kinda hope their not. It seems as though most wishes are to delete the Gen 6 and create a tweaked and updated Gen 5. I love the VTEC, LBS, ABS and especially the lack of "gear" noise. The sound of combustion is music to my ears.

Honestly I just can't get enough of the Gen 6 with all that is has. Would be great if the cans were lighter but really love the look. Would be nice if the VTEC was refined but love the dual personality. I know the weight is an issue but honestly when I look around its seems that it was worth it. The styling, holy cow... I don't know what it is but I held off getting a Gen 5 for years. When I saw the Gen 6 it was an immediate attraction. Then the battle with the wife began (whole other thread)... I love it so much that I am finding a great deal of difficulty coping with the notion that so many don't.

I would like to see a better Gen 6, Refined VTEC, ABS on/off, +30hp and a stronger electrical system (for accessories).

I have the utmost respect for all you purists, hopefully I haven't ruffled any feathers, but I really do like it. Am I
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.. I love it so much that I am finding a great deal of difficulty coping with the notion that so many don't.

I would like to see a better Gen 6, Refined VTEC, ABS on/off, +30hp and a stronger electrical system (for accessories).

I have the utmost respect for all you purists, hopefully I haven't ruffled any feathers, but I really do like it. Am I
you know I felt the same way about the 4g. I remember looking at them in the 90s and thinkin I didn't like the taillight integration thing they had going. Actually still don't. Didn't like Gen 5 at first. Esp the big bug eyed turn signals. But, now that I have had one for about 2 yrs I really like it. I think it looks mean, and the fact that it's a 98 and most riders don't believe all the style and options it has. So it's the Klingon for me. I have always been a Trek fan, too. Now Origami has it's plusses. It looks good from the back but it's just a little too uh I don't know...somethin... and I don't like the look from the front. It's the headlights I think that turn me off. It's a nice bike, though, just not the one for me. The next gen would look different anyway. Hell I think basically everyone would be fairly happy if they just shed a few pounds and put a little more power out and used the suspension from one of the race bikes they already have out.
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LOL there is definitely two types of VFR folks it seems, ;) na it's time for a major redo, the 6th has been the longest running model. Yep bout time they give it the ole heave ho.
And Reg, Funny you say that bout the rear of the 4th, as that's what I think of the rear of the 5th I'm with you 100% on the head light thingy thing going on, not bad, but theres something not quite right, would have been sweet to have seen the 929 headlight package in place. In fact I'm not so over the top cool with mine nether, with all the new cool headlight lenses out there, its the one weak spot on my machine IMO look wise, but oh so goes it, still a huge bang for the buck.
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