How many of you would buy a VFR 1000

[R.W.]

Just out of curiosity, how many VFR riders would buy a VFR 1000...

[skidvicious]

I would if....
it came with gear driven cams, single sided swing arm, enough torque to pull tree stumps out of the ground, ohlins front/rear, heated grips, fully adjustable pegs/levers and at least three options for a killer paint scheme on release!

[WhiteKnight]

I would be interested as well if it had gear driven cams, SSSA, and different paint schemes. But I would have to feel comfortable siting on it too.

[keet]

...has anyone in here had a chance to ride a "blackbird?"....that was a bike i was interested in before i got the vfr.....but there wern`t many to be had in the "pre-owned" dept where i live.....and "if" someone has tested one i would be interested to hear your comparo....thanks

[R.W.]

Originally Posted by keet

...has anyone in here had a chance to ride a "blackbird?"....that was a bike i was interested in before i got the vfr.....but there wern`t many to be had in the "pre-owned" dept where i live.....and "if" someone has tested one i would be interested to hear your comparo....thanks

I tested the CBR 1000, Blackbird and the VFR before I choose the VFR.

1. CBR 1000 Great bike for Power & Cornering but my body would wear out quickly on that bike.

2. Blackbird was a awesome bike, when you hit that throttle it was like you went to warp speed in 4 seconds, handling was O.K. for such a big long bike and the riding position was adequate. It was my #2 choice by a C hair.

3. VFR had it all for me, great riding position, very flickable in the corners, O.K. power, and that great V-4 sound.

The Blackbird is a excellent choice, the reason I choose the VFR over the blackbird was because of the flickability in the corners advantage over the Bird. But a lot can be said over that smooth Bird engine. But maybe one day Honda will wake up and get creative again. But just where you know, my dream bike is a VFR 1000.

[BusaSamurai]

I would be in for one ...

[reg71]

Originally Posted by R.W.

Just out of curiosity, how many VFR riders would buy a VFR 1000...

Like Skid, it would depend on how it came out. If it just seemed more touring oriented, I would shy away from it as the ST has that covered... If it went too sporty, I'd go for one of the bikes that have been covering that ground for years. I would need it to be pretty much the same weight as now or less, I would like updated suspension, brakes, SSSA,

[quema]

I would rather a VFR 250 or 400 :)

[jethro911]

You need two versions, one with ergos and storage etc (long range cruise missle), and the other stripped down with rearsets and agressive handling (race bred chassis). I will take the latter.

[jchag1718]

Originally Posted by R.W.

Just out of curiosity, how many VFR riders would buy a VFR 1000...

Gear driven cams, 1000cc's, twin-spar frame, single-sided swing-arm...Are you kidding...Hell yes!

[reg71]

you know the more I think about it, the less I think I'd buy anything they offerred. I like the one I have, and it's paid for. that's a hell of a combo right there, and kind of a catch 22 for Honda. they have built an excellent bike and a LOT of us put many miles on these things (I'm over 40000 myself) so why buy a new one. The ones we have last forever. They have to make hellacious improvements to get us to give up our old ones. Then again, it seems like about half the VFR owners on here have 2 instead of one so I guess there is that repeat buyer business. I told my wife after she gets used to riding if she likes, we can look at a bigger VFR for her, but she likes the idea of the 500 for now. Personally I like the small bikes, too. You just can't buy a new one that's small anymore.

[quema]

reg71,

It's like inflation, everyone keeps buying (and making) bigger bikes. Don't get me wrong here, I like power. But, there is a lot of fun to be had flogging a smaller bike (that can take it), and they are so easy in the twisties. But if I buy a small bike, I must not be able to handle the power right?

America (or the world now I guess)... Bigger IS better. I would still like to get my hands on a nice VTR 400 or even a 250 (I still like my wife's old ninja 250 (though, she hated it!)).

[ajmadison]

If Honda basically put a 1Kcc V four in the big CBR chassis, put Interceptor plastics and Interceptor like ergos, I would be put for that. Or they could put the current one on 'Jenny Craig' and I'd be interested in that. Mere displacement is not what I'm worried about w/this model.

[grinder]

I don't think I would. I would like a bit more bottom end and a bit better wind protection on a long ride but if I were to go that way I would probably just go for the ST as it is a hell of a bike too. However I sure like the way the extra valves kick in on the VFR and its easier to ride in the twisties. Hmmmmm maybe I need both? Do you think the wife would go for it?

[mello dude]

It depend on the direction of the bike - If it has the 6th gen touring bias - no thanks.(you might as well buy a FJR1300) If it has the 5th gen sport bias - hell yes! -

There have been rumors of a V-5 bike from honda - some say it will be a full motoGP replica, some say it will be a sport bias VFR bike, if its the viffer - sign me up.

[KrautBurner]

if I could have had my bike in a Litre virsion,
I would have gone for it...


as for the "Blackbird"
it's an 1100cc (CBR1100XX)
it's an awesome bike,
I used to hate sportbikes,
it was the first (over 600cc) full ferring bike I ever rode.
and I loved it, I didn't expect to like it at all,
but was plesantly surprised.
it's a friends bike, we all call it the cadillac (in comperison to the group that rides with him....(Ducati Monster sport 750, Bandit 600, triumph TT600, CBR1000RR, and an older Ninja 6))

I would have loved one, but they are hard to find around here.

[mello dude]

Originally Posted by ajmadison

If Honda basically put a 1Kcc V four in the big CBR chassis, put Interceptor plastics and Interceptor like ergos, I would be put for that. Or they could put the current one on 'Jenny Craig' and I'd be interested in that. Mere displacement is not what I'm worried about w/this model.

I rode a CBR1000RR and it blew me away - so I considered mounting VFR800 5th gen body on it. (still do) It would be incredible. Maybe someday - I need to start another project bike right now like I need another hole in my head.

md

[cornercarver]

I love the looks and updated chassis of the 6th gen but MUST have the gear driven cams and lighter weight of the 5th gen.

IF a 1000cc v-4 was gear driven cammed without an increase in weight I would consider plunking down some hard earned scratch but I would keep my 5th gen.

I am looking for a salvage/beater 4th gen to turn into a track bike. I shouldn't have sold my '94.

As others have said, I also love the lighter bikes for serious canyon carving duty. If Honda was to offer a VFR-500F I would keep the 5th gen for touring duty.

[Paul04vfr]

for me if you just put the v-5 in my bike (6th gen) i'd buy it

[WVFR]

I would rather they lighten up the existing bike and stroke it to 900cc to give it more grunt.

[mello dude]

On the 6th gen the thing needs at least a 60 pound diet and vtec delete. I
wont go into brakes. Anything like that I would take notice. My 5th gen - I have pulled about 15 pounds off between the carbon fibre exhaust and the brake delete. If I go by SportRider weights that puts the bike at 443 lbs dry - getting near the litre bikes and actually lighter than an RC51. (Feels good in the twists)
- --------------My wish list --------- whats yours?---------

Thats a good target - 440 dry, gimme 130hp,70ft-lb torque, top shelf suspension and brakes, VFR750 4th gen ergos, more near 5th gen styling. Dont put extra weight for the hard bags -thats for other bikes. BTW - I'm not hung up on the gear driven cams - yeah theyre cool, but if it doesnt have it - no biggee.

MD

[RVFR]

Hm hot topic you've started RW, ha you coming to bike nite tomorrow? could get into a long dicussion on this one. Thought about doing a RC51 swap with VFR 800 6th gen rear frame and swing arm that 1000cc twin pulls like a train and winds like a inline 4 woo hoo, that said would love to see a RC45/V5 in 1000cc with of course all the updated legs front and rear. love those little viffers too, but theres no subsition for displacement so I'v heard. then will there be any trickle down effect when motogp goes to 800cc?

[canib]

I bought my 2006 fully expecting I'd have to buy a V5 1000cc released in 2008. I can't see the RC51 or CBR1000r being replaced, but I can see the VFR getting updated... The reason I say that is people always want to buy bikes that are currently being raced, and the RC51 and CBR1000 are going to be in races in 2007, but the motoGP rules changing means the V5 1k won't be raced. The VFR hasn't won races in years, so putting the V5 in there would refresh the line.

I'd say it would be rad if there were a 1k and 500cc, the 500 for flogging, but if I could afford two bikes thefirst would be a big V5 VFR and the second would definetly be a 599.

I'd totally buy a 1k V5, but it would have to be in a 'do-it-all' VFR.

[jchag1718]

Originally Posted by WVFR

I would rather they lighten up the existing bike and stroke it to 900cc to give it more grunt.

Good point dubya.

[SCSwat]

Originally Posted by skidvicious

I would if....
it came with gear driven cams, single sided swing arm, enough torque to pull tree stumps out of the ground, ohlins front/rear, heated grips, fully adjustable pegs/levers and at least three options for a killer paint scheme on release!

and a carbon fiber cup holder... hey, I like my coffee aright!

[WARNZIE67]

I would rather put the money towards a VFR 800 V5 if the press have got their facts right from Honda. Thats if the Minister for Finance & War (the little misses) would allow me too. lol I don't think so, I think my 02' VFR will stay with me for many years to come:)

[JRotten]

I don't know what thread I read, but I remember seeing a new concept bike based on several current bikes. It was basically a beefed up RC211 engine with a 1200cc displacement, longer wheelbase borrowed from CBR Blackbird, and has the esstetics of the G6 VFR. It was intended to be somewhat of a super sport tourer that even has custom saddlebags. The picture I saw was of a real proto type and it did look awesome. I thought this might of been Hondas answer to the compete with the Hayabusa and Ninja 1400, but I haven't seen anything else about that bike.

As for a basic VFR with a 1000cc V-4 engine would be great if the suspension and brakes were up-graded. My basic complaints about the VFR has been mostly been about the suspension. The front forks lack the adjustablity (compression and rebound damping). The current engine with the V-tec still leaves me questioning on terms of reliability and I would to see a gear driven cam engine spooning out more torque/horsepower from a 1000cc.

One last thought. If the engine is bigger, how would the fuel consumption be? I really do enjoy the fuel range that I have now (250-275 miles per tank), but some of my riding buddies don't like large tanks because (it weighs too much). For myself, a 6.5 gallon tank would be idea if the weigh can be CG can be lowered for better handling.

That's my 2 cents worth....

[JOHNNYRR]

ABSOLUTELY!! Gear driven cams--single sided swingarm--ergos of a 1996 VFR--no linked brakes or VTEC--body work of a 2006--paint scheme in red or red/white/blue(1986) and 30 pounds lighter than current model. Also 4 into one pipe that rides on left exposing entire wheel to 'victims of 1000cc VFR' as you blow by! I will cherish my 86 but would love to add this bike to my garage.

[Davidvfr]

Originally Posted by WVFR

I would rather they lighten up the existing bike and stroke it to 900cc to give it more grunt.

I believe the current engine can only be taken out to 870cc.

[jarhead777]

I'm new to the viffer. Whats up with the gear driven cams? I thought the chain was lighter and quieter.