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Transit Union
Join Date: May 2009
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Has anyone done a comlete teardown on a 1st gen bgblock? If so please show a link if they did pics. mine is comming apart next week for trans problem on 2&3rd gears. One major question is do you have to take the heads off or can ya split the cases and sevice the trans only all help is very much appreciated
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Yeah, tons of times. I've never taken pictures of the process because it's already outlined in the Honda Manual that I'm sure you already have.
No, you do not need to pull the heads to repair the gearbox. One of the case half bolts will not come out all of the way but that's ok because it can still be unthreaded. Here is the $64,000 question: have you checked on the parts you need? Some of them are no longer available. I suggest you sort that out first before you tear it down and end up with a pile of parts. |
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| The Following User Says Thank You to JamieDaugherty For This Useful Post: | mrich12000 (06-15-2009) |
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Transit Union
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Well thanks for the excellent words, I have the motor out as we speak . I have located and pia (full set &69.00 ponds (no longer aval in Canada honda stres dint.)d for a shippment from England as this bike is the uundercover VF100 f Thanks I will be posting full teardown and pics as well sure hope I find that dang bolt lol . thanks again and any snipets of wisdom would gladly be appreoated ( my spell check is bumbed out again)..
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What are you planning to do about parts availability? Per my previous comment, you cannot get the parts you need to fix this anymore. An undercut modification will fix the gear dogs, so for $400 you can get that part taken care of. However, at least one shift fork and the shift drum itself are probably damaged. Neither of those parts are available and there isn't a repair you can make on them. |
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| The Following User Says Thank You to JamieDaugherty For This Useful Post: | mrich12000 (06-16-2009) |
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I have a source in Calgary if I need a shift drum and another one in England .Motors on the floor waiting for parts to arive .again thankyou for you thoughts.
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If you mean David Silver Spares in the UK, they don't have the parts either. I also know that Honda Canada is NLA. I'm not trying to be a buzz kill here, but I REALLY do not think you are going to be able to get the parts to fix it. The best you can do is find used, and that's a crap shoot because most of those are just as bad (especially the shift drums).
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Now there's a good plan!
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Join Date: May 2009
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Shift drum
I may have found one in England brand new good price. I have to check the fishe at G&W cycle (Honda dealer)in Calgary on Friday, as I will be picking up my stator removal tool. I will post the results. Thanks Michael ...
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Join Date: May 2009
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Could you show what bolt is the top case one I need to be careful with ? thanks again..
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I don't have any pictures of it, but it's the bolt that is tucked under the rear head. The head of the bolt is exposed to the outside world and it extends all of the way through to the lower case half. You have to pull the rear exhaust tubes just to see it. Just be care, there are a lot of case half bolts and not all of them are obvious. DO NOT pry the case halves apart - that will not be necessary. |
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| The Following User Says Thank You to JamieDaugherty For This Useful Post: | mrich12000 (06-22-2009) |
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Transit Union
Join Date: May 2009
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Thanks Jamie, The motor is still in the garage on it's exhaust. The things I was refering to was the shifter parts. I have located and paid @300.00 for a left center, right shifter forks as well a new shifter drum. I am going to install a performance star shiffter star as well > Im going to take my time with the rebuid and paint and I have lots of pics so far(memory jog)boy this is a great sight . almost like the BMW group I was with last year Thanks!!
Found the parts in Holland Honda
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Transit Union
Join Date: May 2009
Last Online: Today 01:54 PM
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Found all the shifter forks and shift drum Two in Holland left and the hard to find centre the right was at a Honda dealer in Oklahoma. One thing Factory Pro dosn'f make a shift kit for this unit , any thoughts aout this ? do ya know anyone other than Shift Pro who makes a star and shifter gear . Thanks this should be fun..
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