Fuel Line runs lower than carbs, FUEL FILTER OPTIONS?

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    The little screen filter thats attached to the petcock (up inside the gas tank) broke off so I added a inline fuel filter. The problem is if I dont add some hose (which makes the fuel line longer and drop lower than the carb bowls) the filter would be resting against my engine. Looks like crap and could melt!!!!

    I noticed that when my fuel line drops lower than my carb bowls that my Sabre sputters for gas. So I wanna eliminate that dip!!!!!

    HOW DO YOU GUYS DO IT???
     
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    Duz-nt that bike have a fuel pump? what kinda bike? what part of Deutschland?
     
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    Hey man whats up dude? No fuel pump. Just a petcock and the fuels gravity fed to the carbs. Live close to Schweinfurt. Know that place?

    My bikes a 1984 VF750 S German Model. Heres the specs. Should be able to figure it out if you try? :clock: Alot of words are real close to English!!!

    VF 750 S - Daten und Füllmengen
    Motor / Antrieb
    Nennleistung/Drehzahl 63/9500 KW / min-1
    Max. Drehmoment / Drehzahl 68/7500 Nm / min-1
    Vmax / Drehzahl 205/9110 km/h / min-1
    Hub x Bohrung / Hubraum 48,6x70,0 / 748 mm / cm3
    Kolbenlaufspiel 0,02-0,04 mm
    Ventilspiel kalt E / A 0,13 / 0,13 mm
    Motorölfüllmenge, ohne Filter ca. 2,7 Liter
    Motorölfüllmenge, mit Filter ca. 2,9 Liter
    Motorölspezifikation SAE 10W40 API SE-SF
    Ölfilter Patrone
    Kühlflüssigkeitsmenge ca 2,8 Liter
    Kupplungsflüssigkeit-Spezifikation
    Kardanantrieb
    Endantriebsfüllmenge 150 cm3
    Endantriebsspezifikation Hypoid-Getriebeöl SAE 90 API GL5
    Vergaser
    Vergaser / Typ / Bauart VD60A (SC) ; VD62E (SD)
    Hauptdüse vorn/hinten 132 #
    Leerlaufdüse 38 #
    Schwimmerstand 6,8 mm
    Leerlaufdrehzahl 1000 +- 100 min1
    Gemischregulierungsschraube 2,0-2,5 Umdrehungen
    Kraftstoffart bleifrei normal 91 ROZ
    Luftfiltertyp Schaumstoffeinsatz
    Fahrwerk
    Serienreifendimension vorn 110/90-18 61H
    Serienreifendimension hinten 130/90-17 68H
    nur paarweise von einem Hersteller
    min.Luftdruck vorn solo / m.Bel. 2,3 / 2,3 bar
    min.Luftdruck hinten solo / m.Bel. 2,2 / 2,8 bar
    Bremsflüssigkeit-Spezifikation DOT 4
    Bremsbelag Typ vorn 2 Scheiben
    Bremsbelag Typ hinten Trommel
    Gabelölfüllmenge rechts 375 cm3 / mm
    Gabelölfüllmenge links 390 cm3 / mm
    Gabelölspezifikation ATF (SAE 7,5)
    Luftdruck Teleskopgabel 0-0,4 bar
    Luftdruck Stoßdämpfer 0-0,3 bar
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    Batterie / Typ YB14L-A2 12 / 14 V/Ah
    Zündkerze / Typ NGK-DPR8EA-9 / 0,8-0,9 mm Abstand
    Zündzeitpunkt "F"-Marke 10º / 1000 Grad v. OT / min1
    Zündverstellung 37º / 3300
    Lichtmaschine / Stator
    Lichtmaschine / Feldspule
    Kondensatorladespule
    Impulsgeber weiß/gelb-weiß/blau 480 Ohm bei 20ºC
    Zündspule 2,8 / 13,6-15,5 Ohm / k-Ohm bei 20ºC ohne Stecker
    Scheinwerferlampe H4 12/60/55 V/W
    Rück-u. Bremslichtlampe 12/21/5 V/W
    Blinklichtlampe 12/21 V/W
     
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    Geez - Whizz. there are too many Umlots and soft Bs to cope with. :tongue:
    Your problem you sussed out when you sed the fuel line runs below the carburetor bowls. Thats when a fuel pump comes into the formula. Why not just get a new petcock from Honda?

    Sounds like your near Frankfurt. Ever been to Kiel?
     
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    Ya I know Kiel its up on the North Sea :) Ya your right im lower down, im in beer country not in fish country!!! :tongue: And Germans easier if your drunk!!! :tongue: Why dont I order from Honda? MONEY Last time they ordered the part from Japan it took weeks to get here and they charged me a arm and a leg. How much could you get it for in the States?
     
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    I dont know, tell me the year make of the bike and I will price it for you, I get parts at a discount. A fuel pump that would have cost you 200. and change cost me 105. \

    Funny, the fish country thing. I was there last winter and was thanking jesus that I had heated seats in dah car :smile: anywhooo-this maniac that was in our group was hankering for a certain kieler sprotten sandwich. We searched around this area of Kiel in the middle of the night walking into all these old salt bars. You had to see the patrons to believe it, kinda like something out of some old nautical movie. I dont think he got the sandwich, next day me and dah wife were walking around that same area and I was able to buy one for-myself. Then, I knew why the doode last night had the hanckering, very good fish sandwich. :smile:
     
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    Hankering = a desire to eat/drink. I got a hankering for a dry gin martini (but am on dah wagon)

    I had the silver fish with the onions on a nice roll. Sat in some weird chair with a fabric canapy in the middle of the winter, something was wrong with that picture, but kewel never the less. :smile:

    I can check it out for you, you check on Ebay?
     
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    Hahaha thats called rollmops (do a search on google youll see pics). Herring soaked in salt and vinegar on a brötchen (thats the soft roll). My favorite as a kid!!! SELL IT IN JARS OVER HERE AS A MATTER OF FACT I KNOW WHATS FOR DINNER NOW!!! :smile:

    Ive bought a couple petcocks off of Ebay and usually just have problems with them. Whats a new petcock assembly cost or maybe I can get away with just getting Part 2 (The Screen Set). Im just not sure If you can replace just that? Anyways some pricing would be nice? HEY CAN I SEND YOU FISH? Hahaha

    Heres the Link Again to see my Fuel Tank:
    1982 Honda VF750S V45 SABRE Parts, 1982 Honda VF750S V45 SABRE OEM Parts - BikeBandit.com
     
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    yeh-I will check it out for you, YEP! Roll Mops are sold here to at a German specialty store, very handy thing to have the morning after drinking your arse off. :smile:

    I finished a special bottle of Killepitsch that was given as part of a wedding gift :evil: :smile:
     
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    Hey talked to a dealer over here and from my understanding they dont keep parts for anything older than 10 years around cause its just not worth it to them. That why when I order something it takes forever and they say it comes by ship from Japan to Spain then up through the main land Etc... ridiculous when its just something minor huh? Probably different in the States. You guys seem to to believe in CONVENIENCE :) MAYBE YOU CAN GET IT QUICKER? :plane:
     
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    :stripper:That stuffs like the hardcore version of Jager Meister and makes you go like dis!!!! :funky: You just finished the bottle right now?
     
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    Heres a picture of that filter (its the top part).

    82 HONDA VF750 VF750S SABRE FUEL TANK PETCOCK #4 | eBay

    That screen broke off so now im using a inline plastic filter. Tiny Cheap One. But it just looks funky cause theres not much fuel line and its banging up against my motor!!! SO WHAT ARE MY ALTERNATIVES???
     
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    No problem to add an external filter

    Try it and you will see. Just go ahead and add additional fuel line so its not touching the motor. Gravity will feed fuel as long as the level in the tank is higher than the inlet valve in the carb bowl. If you want to see it work then open a carb bowl drain screw with the petcock valve open. i usually catch the fuel and put it back in the tank.
     
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    Thanks for the tip!!!!! :biggrin:
     
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    "Schweinfurt. Know that place? "

    Anyone who's studied history of WWII knows the place!!~

    German industrial center of ball bearing production that the US 8th Air Force was assigned to destroy and bombed several times with severe losses of planes and crews. Martin Cadin's book "Black Thursday" describes the events.

    German industry profited from the war and had no hesitation to employ Nazi scum even mass murders after the war in positions high and low. Mercedes-Benz, BMW, VW, Siemens and many more.

    Never forget !
     
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    Noooo...I slowly eroded the bottle till it was empty. If I drained a bottle of that stuff in one sitting I would be a hard core raging alcholic :smile:

    Side note, I checked on your part and the Honda computer was down. So, later in the week or next possibly. I did try, hung out for a little while and witnessed some of the lastest honda stuff. Lousy plastic, I gotsta say...Cheers, gud luck with your fuel thing...
     
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    Well man thanks for trying!!!! You think the older stuffs better than the new stuff? Well i sure wish i could keep up with some of the other bikes in my motorcycle club that are smaller but newer and they leave me in a dust cloud on these backroads and autobahn!!!!!

    I will try and get creative how I route my fuel line and maybe i can fit a external filter in somewhere until i hear some better news from ya?

    Thanks again for trying thats real nice of you I hope I hear some good news soon. Why didnt u just call em? COMPUTERS DOWN WTF?!?!?!!
     
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    Hey whats up man? Do you have that website to that Honda Parts Dealer? I need some NEW rubber funnels that go into the airbox on top of the carbs for a 82 VF750 Sabre.
     
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