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    Anyone else put Rotella T in their VFR?

    I've read people doing it....but heres a video of me using it for the bike.


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    I know there are a few members here that that use it, Dahose had even posted a cool "article" on oil a while back, and there was a thread here a few days ago about Rotella. From what I gathered from the conversations is that it's safe but there is a caveat on which one to buy.

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    It's fine. Just stay away from any oil with "friction reducers".

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    I have rotella t 15w-40 in mine now for about a week, and only chose it because i keep reading everywhere that it is widely used in motorcycles. I had a website open for a few days (forgot it), but it showed a big list of what you should stay away from and what oils are known to be great. Rotella t 15w-40 as well as the blue bottle one youre using are both recommended. Ive been thinking about trying that blue bottle though. Anyone have any advice on whether it would be harmful to switch to the synthetic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by michaels214 View Post
    I have rotella t 15w-40 in mine now for about a week, and only chose it because i keep reading everywhere that it is widely used in motorcycles. I had a website open for a few days (forgot it), but it showed a big list of what you should stay away from and what oils are known to be great. Rotella t 15w-40 as well as the blue bottle one youre using are both recommended. Ive been thinking about trying that blue bottle though. Anyone have any advice on whether it would be harmful to switch to the synthetic?
    I've used both....and just right before I switched, I had a synthetic blend, and ran that for several months. I guess its just being safer than sorry, but right away I felt the difference of the 5w-40 synthetic.
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    Rottella T4 and T6 are fine as they have a JASO MA endorsment, stay away from the T5 blend as it will kill your clutch, it has friction modifiers in it.

    I am using T4 and so far no complaints.

    there is no problems with running dino juice then switching to pure synthetic but your first oil change will be considered a blend as there is old oil in your bike still.
    I have not heard of any one toasting there bike by switching between oil types, just make sure your runn the right viscosity, in warm areas run heavier oil, in colder (canada) areas run lighter oil. fyi 5w anything is no good in hot areas and you will cause damage to your bike.
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    Rotella is a winner!

    Whatever you use, just make sure it is JASO MA.

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    I have been using Rotella T 5w50 for three years. Love it.

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    Let's see:
    57,000mi. on my '05 ST1300. Have been using Rotella T syn since the first oil change. No issues, no oil consumption and still haven't had to replace any valve shims.

    20,000mi. on my '06 VFR, ditto above.

    It may not be the best oil but in reality who rides more in a year than what the oil change interval is? I always change mine before they get put to bed for the winter and only remember one time or two where I had to change it mid-season.

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    My bike only had about 1500 miles on it when I got it, and since it's and '07, I knew It had to need an oil change. I chose the 10 w 30 standard rotella to finish the break-in because it doesn't have the friction modifiers, and with less than 2k, I didn't want to switch to a synthetic. I used to use the Rotella T in my truck regularly and really liked it, but recently switched it to Amsoil filters and oil - Oil costs almost the same, and I won't have to change it for over 20k (I run the oil analysis too - just to make sure) that will save me about $300 in oil changes over the next year. Next oil change, the bike will get Amsoil full synthetic too, but I will stay with the standard intervals since there isn't an Amsoil filter for the VFR. Their pricing isn't any higher than any of the other premium motorcycle oils out there, and they make one of the better synthetics available. Since I'm in GA, I pretty much get to ride all year - so no putting the bike to bed for the winter
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    I ride year round in Texas, and put over 7000 miles last year on my last bike (2011 Yamaha FZ8) before being stopped by a deer. However I changed my oil (ROTELLA T6 + Walmart filter) at the 600m break-in, the 3600m and the 6600m marks just because its hot down here, I ride fairly hard for fun, and commute on my 2 bikes. I fully intend to run Rotella T6 in the VFR as the guy I bought it from has been running synthetic in it for awhile now. $35 for oil and a filter and changing it myself keeps my mind at ease.

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    I use the Rotella T6 5w-40 in the Viffer, CBR and Ninja 500. I use the same Super Tech filter in all of them too.
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    HELL Yeeea! I'm glad I'm not the only one. Is it me or guys like to plant these weird stories of gear boxes exploding if you don't use regular motorcycle oils? lol I talked to a dude that barely started riding and he was telling me horror stories of people not using motorcycle oil for their bikes. I just smiled.......and in amazement listened lol
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    Plenty of people.
    Before my son was born I was doing 20-25,000 miles on year on my bikes, and had for quite a few years.

    Quote Originally Posted by IA-Mike View Post
    It may not be the best oil but in reality who rides more in a year than what the oil change interval is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by soloii-74 View Post
    since there isn't an Amsoil filter for the VFR.
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    Fits the 2004, as far as I know, should fit all of that generation. Not sure though.
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    I use Rotella T6 5 w 40 - on my Nomad 1600 and VFR800 -the one negative, is that I had a trouble finding neutral after using it on my VFR. Smooth, yes... great oil yes... but the bottom line wisdom is this:
    use whatever you like (cheaper the better) and change it every season.
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    Thanks Spike,

    I will have to check it out... My local Amsoil guy indicated that there wasn't an Ea filter for the 6th gen vfr. (and yes, 02-09 take the same filter)
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    If you go to their website, type in 2004 VFR, and what I copied and pasted will show up. Type in 2007 and nothing comes up, weird. Likely a website error.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pastorgumby View Post
    I use Rotella T6 5 w 40 - on my Nomad 1600 and VFR800 -the one negative, is that I had a trouble finding neutral after using it on my VFR. Smooth, yes... great oil yes... but the bottom line wisdom is this: use whatever you like (cheaper the better) and change it every season.
    I take it back - initially, my VFR couldn't find NEUTRAL w/ Rotella ... now it's fine! No problem at all.
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    I think any bike that is older, neutral is hard to find lol....thats just MHO.....only because I use to own a 85 cb 700....neutral was non existent, and I was using regular motorcycle oil, and my 92 vfr is alot easier to find.....
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    I've used Rotella T 25-40 (dino - NOT the synthetic) exclusively in my Excursion Diesel for years. Found the recommendation for its use in my Wee from the California Scientific Motorcycle Windshields website. The guy makes his money selling motorcycle windshields, but has a ton of info about oil and filters online. He is apparently an ST rider.

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    I use Rotella T 15w40 in my bikes. Have for a few years now and at $13 a gallon, the price can't be beat.

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    On switching between synthetic and dino oils. From my experience working at a national lube shop chain, jumping to and fro all willy nilly with oil selection is fine as long as the appropriate weight is chosen. I know many regular customers of the shop i worked at would jump back and fourth between the two depending on how much they wanted to spend(65 or synth, or 35 for dino). The only thing to worry about in this instance is if the oil had molybdenum or other such friction modifiers in its additive package, that I am told would ruin a wet clutch. As far as your engine is concerned they both do the same thing synthetic just does it better and longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by braceyoself777 View Post
    HELL Yeeea! I'm glad I'm not the only one. Is it me or guys like to plant these weird stories of gear boxes exploding if you don't use regular motorcycle oils? lol I talked to a dude that barely started riding and he was telling me horror stories of people not using motorcycle oil for their bikes. I just smiled.......and in amazement listened lol
    I know where there's a 26k mile 3rd gen with a little hole in the cases. Owner changed the oil religiously w/ Rottella T-6 and a Supertech filter every 3k miles.
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    I currently have Rotella T in my viffer, the mineral 15W40 courtesy of Walmart for $13 lol i will get around to the T6 Rotella 5W40 the next time around. It's kind of sad, my zx6r gets the finest 10W40 Motul 300V oil yet my poor viffer gets second rate walmart oil lol. It's ok my viffer doesn't see the type of abuse my ZX does though.
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    I've been thinking about switching to Rotella.

    I'm currently using the Mobil1 MX4-T (10W40) since it's easy to find in my area. I've done an oil analysis on the bike and it's looking good. I'm going to increase my oil change intervals and check the oil analysis until I see it's starting to break down.
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    Can anyone say just how much better it is or why Rotella might be better than the Honda-branded oils Honda sells ??



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    I put some links to articles and relayed what I found out about ZDDP contents and base stock issues in another thread. Search that one out for lots o info.

    If you want a readers digest version ....

    The Honda oil is JASO MA. The Rotella is JASO MA. They are the same tested quality.

    The Honda oil is about $25 a gallon. The Rotella is about $14 a gallon.

    Rotella is AT LEAST equal quality oil, at about half the cost as Honda OEM.

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    One thing I did notice with the T6 Rotella on my 02 I used to have was the bike ran slightly cooler at freeway speeds than with the petro version Rotella T. It was about a 9deg cooler. At freeway speeds of 80 it used to run at 185deg after Rotella T6 it sat at 176 all day cruising at the same speed same ambient temps.
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    Interesting. Wonder if the synth somehow sinks away heat better?

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