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    8th Gen Tail Tidy

    So it doesn't look like we're going to get a Gen-8 specific tail tidy any time soon from the usual suppliers, so I'm thinking about doing a small production run myself. Currently I'm working on a design that's similar in principle to the CW VFR-1200 design, but is intended to retain a reflector (albeit a smaller 70 to 85mm x 20mm adhesive-backed reflector). I'd also get my design powder-coated in matte black.

    Some questions for the Gen-8 riders out there;
    • Would you buy a model-specific tail tidy (aka fender eliminator)? I'd like to get an idea of the demand as this can lower the cost of production.
    • Would you prefer it with or without a reflector fitted? If with, above or below the number plate? (without or below would allow the plate to be raised a further 20mm... but without can be a legal/road-worthy issue in some locations)


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    I would buy one, with reflector below. Best to make one design that would be legal everywhere.


    Edit: Actually, I went a looked at mine, why not keep reflector above and just re-use stock one? It is held on with a stud and nut.
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    I would be interested in one! I like the idea of the VFR logo on the reflector....gives it that little extra custom touch.
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    I would be interested in buying an 8th ten specific tidy tail. What is most important to me is clean design, so I wouldn't be worried about reflectors. I think the most important thing to me in the details is the brightest possible turn signals and lights.
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    This particular tail tidy doesn't affect the stock lights and signals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DriverDave View Post
    This particular tail tidy doesn't affect the stock lights and signals.
    Outstanding. Sign me up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DriverDave View Post
    I would be interested in one! I like the idea of the VFR logo on the reflector....gives it that little extra custom touch.
    What he said...

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    Prototyping Update. Some further adjustments still needed, but overall I'm happy with the fabrication & design. I'm now just waiting on the new reflectors to confirm that everything fits nicely. Then it's full steam ahead with the production batch, powdercoating, and assembly ready for delivery.

    Question for those who've expressed an interest:- Are you happy to drill your own numberplate-mounting holes? That way you can tailor it to your specific numberplate size. I've had one-size-fits-many tail-tidies in the past, but they never seemed to fit the spacings I wanted to use for my mounting bolts. The material is 2mm aluminium, so a battery drill with a metal or riveting drill-bit will do the trick.

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    Drilling 2 holes to hang the plate is easy enough.
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    What do I owe you and how do I pay it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SammichTheStout View Post
    What do I owe you and how do I pay it?
    Loving the enthusiasm, cheers guys. I'm still finalising the design and component suppliers -- if you notice in the picture above, the bolt holes don't match up after the laser-cutting mob used a superseded version of the prototype design.

    Once I have something that I feel is worthy of the VFR community (We're a finnicky bunch, aren't we?!), I'll prepare a production batch of 15-20 and see what the final costs come to. Perhaps the best thing you can do right now is reach out to other 2014 VFR-800 riders and get them interested; the larger the production run, the lower the cost per unit will be. For payment, I can use Paypal although that attracts a 2.6% surcharge, and I'm trying to keep costs down as much as humanly possible.

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    Update:

    The two Mk.1 prototypes that I made have been sent out for testing by forum members, and already some good feedback has been received for incorporation into a production batch. Overall I'm pretty happy with how they've turned out.

    At special request, I converted the Mk.1s into shorty versions like the one seen below/right. My original plan was to do the production run articles with enough length to support taller plates (i.e. UK), but unless there's demand for the longer version (see bottom left), I might just do the shorties exclusively... What do you guys think?

    If you're keen to order one, now is the time to let me know, and which style you'd prefer. Final price will depend on the style selected and size of the production run.





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    Got your prototype today and installed it:

    I have ordered a black plain frame which should make it cleaner looking (for the plate, not your bracket).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allyance View Post
    Got your prototype today and installed it. I have ordered a black plain frame which should make it cleaner looking (for the plate, not your bracket).
    Looks Great, glad you like it! I did the same with my plate and fitted a black Altrex protector which neatly hides the plate edge and white outline.

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    I am going to show the gf this thread.
    If she likes it we will want 2 as we have his and hers 2014s.
    I want to be a sissy that rides with frame sliders. Also I am slow, so shut up and just pass me.

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    When I bought my '03, it came with a simple tidy tail. The rear tire kept hitting it and bending the plate. This one installs simply and slides up from the bottom, and locks in with two existing bolts.
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    I'm in. Let me know how to pay you. Also, what tires are those. My Original Dunlops are getting due and I can't wait to get rid of them!

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    PR4's on my 2014
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    Hey, let me know how many miles you get out of those PR4's. My rear was at the wear bars at 4k miles. Might have been able to get 4500 out of the rear and maybe 5k out of the front, if I had ran them near bald. Also curious if you find that they really start to lose grip and feel like crap around 25% life left. I know all tires do that to some degree, but the PR3's and 4's seem to be excessive. I decided to go with Roadsmart 2's. They definitely want to "fall over" more in the curves than the PR4's and generally feel similar to the OEM D222's (but should last longer with the dual compound).
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    Just read some review regarding the Pirelli Angel STs. They don't look like a bad choice either! Maybe we should start a thread!

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    Just happened on this thread and like the tail tidy. Still time to order one? - I am in the US so shorty version looks good. thanks. EdF

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    Quote Originally Posted by NZCam View Post
    No problem, which US state?
    Sorry, my mistake. I was looking for a 7th generation tail tidy, which also seem to be a rarity. Best. EdF

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdF View Post
    Sorry, my mistake. I was looking for a 7th generation tail tidy, which also seem to be a rarity. Best. EdF
    Try Competition Werkes for a VFR1200 fender eliminator.

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    Yay, we have 12 orders!

    On Monday, I'll contact the laser cutters and arrange for them to commence the production run. Then once I have the components are back, I'll get on to the powdercoaters, assemble, and arrange individual deliveries. If you haven't already, please send me your delivery address via private message or email (nz.cam@hotmail.com).

    If you're not on the list but would still like to order one, that's cool too;- the production batch will be for 24 in total. BUT, once those are gone, that's it. I designed and organised these as a service to the VFR community, but it's not my day job. Please also note too that they come undrilled as far as numberplate placement goes. You'll need to drill your own holes, but on the positive side, you'll have absolute surety that the holes match your specific plate.

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    Mate I'll have one also. Am no "hols" atm but let me know bank details and I'll get it sorted. I'm in qld.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbg07 View Post
    Mate I'll have one also. Am on "hols" atm but let me know bank details and I'll get it sorted. I'm in qld.
    Added to the orders list, thanks.

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    Update:

    The production batch is back from the laser-cutters, so this weekend I completed the riveting, welding, and tolerance testing. Next, they're off to the powder-coaters, then it's just a case of sticking on the reflector logos and mailing them out.

    If you haven't already, please send through your delivery address. If you want to order a tail-tidy, there's still time to do so as I made 12 extras - but those shown in the pic will be the only batch. Get 'em now or miss out!!

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    Update:

    I'm sending out orders this coming week, so if you haven't already jumped on it, please check your email for a PayPal invoice. For any riders looking to snap up an available tail-tidy before they're all gone, the VFR forum price is AUD $65 ea. (USD $48.25 as of this morning's exchange rate). Airmail shipping depends on where in the world you are (currently AUD $14.30 to the US and Canada, $8.25 around Australia). The rest will go on eBay at a higher price (no forum discount, plus eBay takes a cut).

    If you've previously put your hand up, please let me know that you're still keen, and your delivery & email address.

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    Allyance California Mk.1 Shorty Delivered Paid
    DriverDave Colorado Mk.1 Shorty Delivered Paid
    NZCam Victoria Mk.2 Long Delivered Paid
    Dogman South Australia Prod. Shorty Delivered Paid
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    gotpowr New Jersey Prod. Shorty Posted Paid
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    skillet Texas Prod. Shorty Posted Paid
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    rystew08 Ontario Prod. Shorty Delivered Paid
    vfrfly British Columbia ? Qty. 2 Interested
    Mgsst23 Pennsylvania ? Interested
    Shinigami USA ? Interested

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