We don't have a slipper clutch do we?

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  1. GatorGreg

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    I don't remember reading anywhere that the Interceptor has one and when downshifting it doesn't feel to me like it has one. Since this bike has a gear indicator it's probably not something I'll need often but my old Ninja 300 had one and it was nice to just downshift with never any fear of locking up the rear, but that bike had no gear indicator so it was a more useful feature I suppose.
     
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    Nope, no slipper clutch.... blip the throttle
     
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    No slipper clutch, unless you use the oil with friction modifiers, or ad some STP. Of course then it slips the wrong way.
     
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    Not on the new ones, but my '83 does, they called it a "one way clutch" in the manual.
     
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    It's pretty interesting how the '83-'85 vf7 series one way clutch works (near the end of the service manual under features IIRC).
    It does not act as a slipper clutch in the sense that it will slip at low rpm keeping the motor from stalling if the rear wheel locks up under braking, or you find yourself in too high a gear at low speeds. IIRC that is pretty much for off road bikes. However, it will keep the rear wheel from locking up or sliding if you drop one too many gears coming into a curve, or let out the clutch suddenly without blipping the throttle when downshifting at speed.
    All but two or three of the clutch plates are on a one way sprag gear, so when accelerating all clutch plates work to transfer power, but during downshifts and engine braking all but two of the clutch plates are effectively disconnected, leaving only those plates (out transferring power to the rear wheel. In almost all cases the remaining clutch plates will slip before the rear wheel does.

    I am not sure why Honda abandoned this feature, possibly to save rotational mass, maybe the sprag gear wasn't strong enough or more likely manufacturing expense was seen to exceed the additional value to the customer.

    Maybe someone has more or better info on this

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    I know by experience a 2009's rear wheel WILL lock up when
    downshifting, especially going over a hill on a curve. Lesson learned.
     
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    VF1000R have slipper clutch.
     
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    Ahh, compression braking! Experienced it more than once too. Started using the blip throttle when down shifting technique when "performance" riding.
     
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    I am pretty sure the '09 800s don't have a slipper clutch.
     
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    Noooooo,

    just let it slide......

    Saves wear & tear on the rear brake, allows you to focus just on the front brake - the important one, then when ready to give it beans again it will sort itself out - :smug:
     
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    The torque-limiting (or one way clutch) was introduced in the NR500 race bike in 1981 then made it's way into the Vf750f in 1983.
     
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    It's a 600+ pound machine with rider.....you gotta be pretty hamfisted to lock up the rear wheel.
     
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    Um, it's called a high side, almost happened more than once! A controlled slide on the other hand is what I prefer. Had a few this past weekend, not intentional, but controlled by throttle when it started to happened.

    Probably should mention that I use compression braking a lot, just careful with the downshifts...
     
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