VFR For Sale

Team:

I have my VFR for sale and wanted to pass on to you an
early opportunity to buy it before going live with ad on the paper as
well as the web. See below for the specifics:

2000 VFR
Yellow
35K
All maint documentation
Always garaged
Double Bubble screen and original screen
Maint manual
COST $4300 (below KBB value)
http://www.kbb.com/KBB/OtherVehicles...hicleId=69877&
ManufacturerId=18&VehicleClass=Motorcycle&PriceType=Retail&YearId=2000
Included in the price are 2 Shoei (yellow, full face, RF1000) Helmets,
extra shields, helmet bag, original grips, a Throttle Meister set up
(Used only 3 times for long trips (value at $100.00), original bike
tools and pouch and a CHATTERBOX comms set up.
Will deliver to w/in 100 miles of Yorktown, VA.
Contact me for pictures and questions. Serious inquiries only please.
Thank you.

Eddie Montero
757-256-1349
edgardo.montero@xxxxxx

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Today's Topics:

1. Re:Looking for HB9402 Heli-Bars for my 1996 VFR (gordon burlison)
2. NHC NVFRC any miata owners here (playit loud)
3. Re: GenMars (StlthHsta@xxxxxx)
4. Re: GenMras II (StlthHsta@xxxxxx)
5. Re: WDGAH 11 Part 2 - more PMS therapy, still long (Travis Sawyer)
6. Re: Looking for HB9402 Heli-Bars for my 1996 VFR
(jzh3@xxxxxx)
7. Re: Looking for HB9402 Heli-Bars for my 1996 VFR (Tony Shelver)
8. Re: Tank Bags (Tony Shelver)
9. Re: Tank Bags (Bryan Roth)
10. RE: tankbags (Ron Perrillo)
11. RE: Tank Bags (Tony Shelver)
12. Will newer helibars fit 94-97 models of VFR? (Joshua Keller)
13. Re: Tank Bags (jzh3@xxxxxx)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:37:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: gordon burlison
Subject: Re:Looking for HB9402 Heli-Bars for my 1996 VFR
To: vfr@xxxxxx
Message-ID: <938867.78365.qm@xxxxxx>
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Joshua Keller wrote
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Does anybody have any HB9402 bars for a '96 VFR that they'd be willing
to sell? It looks like they've been discontinued - my alternative is
the Gen-Mar risers.
-Josh
-------

Josh,

If you can't find a set of Heli-Bars, You might try a set of bars from
a 5 Gen VFR. The 5 Gen bars are about .75in taller than the 4 Gen bars
and I have mine raised as high on the fork tubes as I can which adds
about .25 in for a total rise of 1in over stock.
Heli-bars claim 1.5in rise over stock and are wider.

Gordon




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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:58:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: playit loud
Subject: NHC NVFRC any miata owners here
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looking at a 92

would like opinions. i'll send ya the specifics.

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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 05:16:56 EDT
From: StlthHsta@xxxxxx
Subject: Re: GenMars
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In a message dated 3/17/2008 8:18:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
vfr-request@xxxxxx writes:

1) Remove the safety C clip from the top of the fork tube and adorn the
empty gap with the useless aluminum cap they provide

2) Allow the fork to come up far enough through the riser and clip-on
(at least an inch) to allow the safety C clip installation (a must
have) thus altering the motorcycle's original geometry.>>>>>>>> No
problem with my GenMars. The c-clip seems to not be needed. Non of my
other bikes have them.

My .02 Tom McK








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Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 05:20:27 EDT
From: StlthHsta@xxxxxx
Subject: Re: GenMras II
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Consider Convertabars.



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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 06:44:53 -0400
From: "Travis Sawyer"
Subject: Re: WDGAH 11 Part 2 - more PMS therapy, still long
To: "Greg Verderber" , "VFR Mail list"

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On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 11:41 PM, Greg Verderber wrote:

> Riff Raff's Rides, Copyright 2008
> WDGAH 11, Part 2
>
> Day 4 - Saturday September 8, 2007 - 289 miles Not having any
> preplanned route for the day, I wanted to find out the details around
> Alan's ash hauling. I knew him from past WDGAH and COTU gatherings and

> we had exchanged e-mails on a few occasions. Steve Donaldson gave me
> the full story behind Alan's wish to have his remains spread along a
> bit of Lake George coast road.





Thanks Greg! Great read. It helps me come out of my PMS slumber. Been
itching to get the bike back on the road. Gots to get a couple of valve
stems and weights so I can put the new shoes on (a very nice xmas
present from my better half).

-travis

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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:28:32 +0000
From: jzh3@xxxxxx
Subject: Re: Looking for HB9402 Heli-Bars for my 1996 VFR
To: vfr@xxxxxx
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Really? It was an even-more useless (and rust-prone) steel cap when I
bought mine!

Ciao,

JZH
London, UK
www.vsource.org

On 3/18/08, Daniel M wrote:
> I purchased a set of Gen Mars and must say that I would not install
> those on my 1995 if Gen Mar paid me to do it. One is stuck with two
options:
>
> 1) Remove the safety C clip from the top of the fork tube and adorn
> the empty gap with the useless aluminum cap they provide
>
> 2) Allow the fork to come up far enough through the riser and clip-on
> (at least an inch) to allow the safety C clip installation (a must
> have) thus altering the motorcycle's original geometry.
>
> In that regard, am I missing something obvious or are the Gen Mar
> risers simply crap?
>
> d.
>
> On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 6:05 PM, Joshua Keller
> wrote:
> >
> > Does anybody have any HB9402 bars for a '96 VFR that they'd be
> > willing to
> sell? It looks like they've been discontinued - my alternative is the

> Gen-Mar risers.
> > -Josh
> >
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 08:58:40 -0400
From: Tony Shelver
Subject: Re: Looking for HB9402 Heli-Bars for my 1996 VFR
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<<< other limitations they may have, I don'tthink the c-clip issue is as
dire as you make itsound. Installing the heli-bars on my 96 required
theremoval of the c-clips as well. The clips aren'tsubstantial enough to
rely on if the handlebar comesloose in the first place, so their absence
is not abig deal. Just make sure you torque the pinch boltsproperly and
you shouldn't have any problem goingwithout the clips. If retaining the
clips is necessaryfor peace of mind, the heli-bars will present the
sameproblem. Option 2 that you list, in addition toaltering the bike's
setup, will negate the benefit ofadding the risers in the first place.
>>>

Same thing on the Gen 6, you remove the C-clips with the Helibars. Not
an issue, IMHO as if the pinchbolts loosen up enough to where the
C-clips are needed to stop the bars coming off, you have much bigger
problems.

Even on the stock clipons (on my '03 at any rate), if you lose the
c-lcips, you can slide the bars up a bit on the forks, giving a smidgeon
(technical term) more height.

Heli are somewhat anal about how they develop their bars. The head
honcho does his very best to make sure nothing contacts fairings, tanks
and so on, which is one reason the bar height varies from generation to
generation. You may want to take that into consideration when sourcing
bar risers: some of the other makers will provide a more generic fit,
and leave you to sort out the issues.
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 09:48:47 -0400
From: Tony Shelver
Subject: Re: Tank Bags
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I've used various tankbags (Sargent, Eclipse, Marsee and so on), the
place I've ended up is Bagster / Baglux. The Sargent bag was a
top-notch bag, but the mouting panel slid around a lot on the bike I had
it mounted on.

If you want tank protection, the Bagster tankcover is unbeatable, as it
provides full coverage, that is usually color-matched, and is typically
attached to the bike at anything between 5 and 7 points (on the two I
have).
The tank cover provides an extremely solid mounting system (4 points)
for the Bagster range of tank bags, that is clip and go, very quick to
access, and the bag can pivot out of the way on the front two clips for
quick refueling.

Lots of different bags available, I vary between a 12 liter for day to
day use and an expandable 30 liter for touring.

Upsides are top-notch tank protection, improved knee padding against the
tank, and a wide range of tankbags as good as anything out there.

Downside is price (very expensive for just a tank bag), looks if you
don't like the full cover, and a slightly wider tank width with the knee
padding built into the cover.

I was lucky enough to get the cover for my VFR on an eBay close-out at
$40, a screaming deal compared to the usual price, and could reuse the
bags from my ZX12R.
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:13:49 -0400
From: Bryan Roth
Subject: Re: Tank Bags
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 09:33:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ron Perrillo
Subject: RE: tankbags
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I had the Bagster AKA Baglux setup on my '96 for three years. Simply the
best setup of that type I have ever used. Great design and great build
quality. I never had any problems with dirt getting underneath the tank
cover. I wish I could afford to get a set for my '98 but it's simply not
in the cards right now.

Ron

Chicago
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 13:01:39 -0400
From: Tony Shelver
Subject: RE: Tank Bags
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Bryan, so far, no. You're welcome to come have a look if you like, and
compare the tanks on my ZX or VFR to another bike that has had constant
tank bag use for 10s of thousands of miles, with minimal cleaning.
No dulling, wear, hairline scratches that you see with the typical tank
bag or cover, other than wear that happened prior to installing the
Bagster.

I ride quite a lot of dirt roads, and no issues. I have a short bit of
dirt road where I live (Shoestrap / Maple Lane, as you know...), and
then do a lot of other dirt roads in the area (western NH / northern CT
River valley), and further afield. Sandwich Notch, Hazens Notch (VT),
most of the Bailey Hazen (VT), Jeffersons Notch, Lincoln Gap (VT), quite
a few roads in the VT NEK, and a lot more in Quebec, NH, VT, Maine,
Newfoundland and more, have all been covered on the VFR and ZX.
I've even ridden past your house a few times...

I dropped the ZX on a dirt road (well it was actually a black ice and
snow road) last Thanksgiving weekend riding while in the Green
Mountains, and the cover saved the tank from a few scratches.

I've had one on the ZX12R for about 22K miles, and over 5 years, and on
the VFR since late '05 and I'd guess about 13K miles. The ZX tank comes
up amazingly well when you take the cover off, as it has been protected
from the sun since virtually new: nice and shiny red. The VFR looks
good as well.

The most likely place where dirt could come in as at the fuel cap hole,
but I always have the tankbag on, so no issues there. The other edges
are all behind the fairing or at the bottom of the tank, and usually
dirt doesn't fall upwards...

You also need movement of the cover on the tank to generate scratches,
and this setup is on really tight. On the ZX (last bike I worked on),
it straps to the tank mount bolts at the rear sides, the tank cover
mount bolts (one on each side), has a strap that connects left and right
passing under the tank, and then another strap around the steering head.
So that is two straps and 4 bolts for a total of 8 mounting points on
the cover that have cam-lock straps attached to snug the cover down.
Plus the cover is form fitted to the tank, so is not inclined to move
anyway.
IIRC the VFR cover has 4 mount points and the front strap, but it's been
a while so I'd have to check.The bag mounts onto 4 attachments built
into the cover, that take maybe 5 seconds to snap open once you know
what is where.
Tank cover material is thick and solid.

If you're into tank covers, it is far less likely to trap dirt than the
typical half cover, or even the Magknight, in my experience.
I'd also back it against any tank bag out there for scratch resistance
(outside of the ones that mount on a fuel cap mount assembly), as all
those bags can move around much more easily than the Bagster, and are
open on all sides for dust and object ingress.

IMHO, if you want tank protection, and a tank bag, and have the money,
this setup is very hard to beat.
For tank protection, I've tried the Magknight on the VFR (not great),
the Tankslapper on the Concours (for about 1 week), the stick-on rear
protectors (ZX), and a tank bra (Concours), and none of them came even
close to the Bagster cover.


Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:13:49 -0400From: bakerhillpins@xxxxxxo:
tshelver@xxxxxxC: vfr@xxxxxxubject: Re: Tank Bags Do you
find that the full coverage of the tank traps dirt under? I know that
with all the dust from the dirt road I live on I would be concerned
about it filling up with dirt and turning into sandpaper.Bryan

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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 11:11:22 -0600
From: "Joshua Keller"
Subject: Will newer helibars fit 94-97 models of VFR?
To: vfr@xxxxxx
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Does anybody know if any of the newer helibars (for 98 and on) will fit
the
'94-'97 VFR? Thanks.

-Josh
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:39:14 +0000
From: jzh3@xxxxxx
Subject: Re: Tank Bags
To: vfr@xxxxxx
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Echoing what Tony said, I've used Bagster/Baglux tank covers on all
(okay, nearly all) of my bikes since ca. 1993, and for many thousands of
miles, and have never had an issue with tank scratches. I have had tank
cover strap hardware snap, but I've always found a way to make the
covers secure again.

I'm less thrilled with the vinyl tank bags themselves, as I think they
would be much better if they were made from a different material/were
waterproof w/o the need for a separate rain cover, etc., but I'm only on
my second Alpha bag in 15 years, so they can't be that bad!

See http://www.baglux.co.uk/shop.php, the UK distributor's Web site, for
a full list of the available bags. It looks like they may have evolved
the materials somewhat, but I can't tell from the photos. The older bag
designs (like the Alpha) no longer appear on the Bagster.com corporate
site.

Downside is that this set-up is breathtakingly expensive (especially if
your currency is reaching new floors each week)...

Ciao,

JZH
London, UK
wwww.vsource.org


On 3/18/08, Tony Shelver wrote:
> Bryan, so far, no. You're welcome to come have a look if you like,
> and compare the tanks on my ZX or VFR to another bike that has had
> constant tank bag use for 10s of thousands of miles, with minimal
cleaning.
> No dulling, wear, hairline scratches that you see with the typical
> tank bag or cover, other than wear that happened prior to installing
the Bagster.
>
> I ride quite a lot of dirt roads, and no issues. I have a short bit
> of dirt road where I live (Shoestrap / Maple Lane, as you know...),
> and then do a lot of other dirt roads in the area (western NH /
> northern CT River valley), and further afield. Sandwich Notch, Hazens

> Notch (VT), most of the Bailey Hazen (VT), Jeffersons Notch, Lincoln
> Gap (VT), quite a few roads in the VT NEK, and a lot more in Quebec,
> NH, VT, Maine, Newfoundland and more, have all been covered on the VFR
and ZX.
> I've even ridden past your house a few times...
>
> I dropped the ZX on a dirt road (well it was actually a black ice and
> snow
> road) last Thanksgiving weekend riding while in the Green Mountains,
> and the cover saved the tank from a few scratches.
>
> I've had one on the ZX12R for about 22K miles, and over 5 years, and
> on the VFR since late '05 and I'd guess about 13K miles. The ZX tank
> comes up amazingly well when you take the cover off, as it has been
> protected from the sun since virtually new: nice and shiny red. The
> VFR looks good as well.
>
> The most likely place where dirt could come in as at the fuel cap
> hole, but I always have the tankbag on, so no issues there. The other

> edges are all behind the fairing or at the bottom of the tank, and
> usually dirt doesn't fall upwards...
>
> You also need movement of the cover on the tank to generate scratches,

> and this setup is on really tight. On the ZX (last bike I worked on),

> it straps to the tank mount bolts at the rear sides, the tank cover
> mount bolts (one on each side), has a strap that connects left and
> right passing under the tank, and then another strap around the
steering head.
> So that is two straps and 4 bolts for a total of 8 mounting points on
> the cover that have cam-lock straps attached to snug the cover down.
> Plus the cover is form fitted to the tank, so is not inclined to move
> anyway.
> IIRC the VFR cover has 4 mount points and the front strap, but it's
> been a while so I'd have to check.
>
> The bag mounts onto 4 attachments built into the cover, that take
> maybe 5 seconds to snap open once you know what is where.
> Tank cover material is thick and solid.
>
> If you're into tank covers, it is far less likely to trap dirt than
> the typical half cover, or even the Magknight, in my experience.
> I'd also back it against any tank bag out there for scratch resistance

> (outside of the ones that mount on a fuel cap mount assembly), as all
> those bags can move around much more easily than the Bagster, and are
> open on all sides for dust and object ingress.
>
> IMHO, if you want tank protection, and a tank bag, and have the money,

> this setup is very hard to beat.
> For tank protection, I've tried the Magknight on the VFR (not great),
> the Tankslapper on the Concours (for about 1 week), the stick-on rear
> protectors (ZX), and a tank bra (Concours), and none of them came even

> close to the Bagster cover.
>
>
> ________________________________
> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:13:49 -0400
> From: bakerhillpins@xxxxxx
> To: tshelver@xxxxxx
> CC: vfr@xxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Tank Bags
>
> Do you find that the full coverage of the tank traps dirt under? I
> know that with all the dust from the dirt road I live on I would be
> concerned about it filling up with dirt and turning into sandpaper.
>
> Bryan
>
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