Baseline carb setting for stock 94

Good day members,

Being the first nice day of year in Toronto. I decided to pull out the
vfr for the innaugural ride.

Well, she won't start. She putters to life put dies only seconds later.

Would anyone be able to tell me what the baseline settings should be
on the carbs? Like the idle speed screw, mixtures... How many turns
out? I know the PO messed with the carbs.

Many thanks on a beautiful saturday!

Patrick
1994 Honda VFR750F

On 4/4/08, lguttilla@xxxxxx wrote:
> btw Matt, I may be a little more reserved in my old age - but that don't
> mean my skillz is gone away.
> I can still low-side with the best of them!
> seriously, i know it's only 500 miles, but i been tearing that Beemer up.
> =)
>
> Lou
> SF, CA
>
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: Matthew Roth
> Yep, Leah fits the bill there...no wonder he's going all soft...
>
> Can't really fault Lou here IMO--it's just fate...and definitely age...and
> the degradation of riding skills that come with it too...
>
> Matt Roth
>
>
>
>
> Greg Wrote:
> Greg Verderber"
> To:"vfrlist" , "Lou Guttilla" ,
> "Bill Ng"
> Date:Thu, 3 Apr 2008 20:01:25 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject:Re:
>
> I am disconsolate at the passing of yet another hero.
> What next, Hussey trades in his beemer for a cage (oh
> wait, he already did that).
> I'm going to go down to the garage lower my brake
> fluid to half mast.
>
> Must be a DAMN good woman behind all this!
> ;-)
>
>
> Cheers,
> Greg
>
>
>
>
> Matt
>
>
> You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster
> Total Access, No Cost.
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Are you sure it's the carb settings? If you did not treat the gas before winter storage with a preservative like Stabil it's more likely gummed-up carbs from old/bad gas. If you're lucky it could be cleared up by filling the carbs with a carb cleaning product called Sea Foam. Allow it to sit in there for the recommended amount of time, overnight if it's bad,occasionally go slosh the stuff around by moving the bike back and forth/side to side, drain the Sea Foam out replace with fresh gas and try to start it again. I have heard that Yamaha makes a good product for this purpose as well but I can't remember what it's called.

Ron

Chicago

Patrick Shelston wrote:
Good day members,

Being the first nice day of year in Toronto. I decided to pull out the
vfr for the innaugural ride.

Well, she won't start. She putters to life put dies only seconds later.

Would anyone be able to tell me what the baseline settings should be
on the carbs? Like the idle speed screw, mixtures... How many turns
out? I know the PO messed with the carbs.

Many thanks on a beautiful saturday!

Patrick
1994 Honda VFR750F

On 4/4/08, lguttilla@xxxxxx wrote:
> btw Matt, I may be a little more reserved in my old age - but that don't
> mean my skillz is gone away.
> I can still low-side with the best of them!
> seriously, i know it's only 500 miles, but i been tearing that Beemer up.
> =)
>
> Lou
> SF, CA
>
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: Matthew Roth
> Yep, Leah fits the bill there...no wonder he's going all soft...
>
> Can't really fault Lou here IMO--it's just fate...and definitely age...and
> the degradation of riding skills that come with it too...
>
> Matt Roth
>
>
>
>
> Greg Wrote:
> Greg Verderber"
> To:"vfrlist" , "Lou Guttilla" ,
> "Bill Ng"
> Date:Thu, 3 Apr 2008 20:01:25 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject:Re:
>
> I am disconsolate at the passing of yet another hero.
> What next, Hussey trades in his beemer for a cage (oh
> wait, he already did that).
> I'm going to go down to the garage lower my brake
> fluid to half mast.
>
> Must be a DAMN good woman behind all this!
> ;-)
>
>
> Cheers,
> Greg
>
>
>
>
> Matt
>
>
> You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster
> Total Access, No Cost.
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Patrick,

Did it run when you bought it?

When did you buy it? When was it last running?

When was the current gas put in?

Sitting for a few months in Toronto (or what I imagine to be Toronto) winter
temperatures may not necessarily cause gas-gumming problems.

Sitting for six months in the summer, yes you'll have gummed-up carbs.

Ed

1998 VFR800



_____

Are you sure it's the carb settings? If you did not treat the gas before
winter storage with a preservative like Stabil it's more likely gummed-up
carbs from old/bad gas. If you're lucky it could be cleared up by filling
the carbs with a carb cleaning product called Sea Foam. Allow it to sit in
there for the recommended amount of time, overnight if it's bad,occasionally
go slosh the stuff around by moving the bike back and forth/side to side,
drain the Sea Foam out replace with fresh gas and try to start it again. I
have heard that Yamaha makes a good product for this purpose as well but I
can't remember what it's called.



Ron



Chicago

Patrick Shelston wrote:

Good day members,

Being the first nice day of year in Toronto. I decided to pull out the
vfr for the innaugural ride.

Well, she won't start. She putters to life put dies only seconds later.

Would anyone be able to tell me what the baseline settings should be
on the carbs? Like the idle speed screw, mixtures... How many turns
out? I know the PO messed with the carbs.

Many thanks on a beautiful saturday!

Patrick
1994 Honda VFR750F







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Before going the Sea Foam route, you might just try draining the old
gas and replacing with fresh gas. I've had problems getting my 91
running after letting it sit for a while and simply putting in fresh
gas cleared up the problem. I think that one time I also added a
carb/FI cleaner additive, but I'm not sure it really helped.

Chris

BTW, the old gas burned fine in my Jeep. No sense letting it go to
waste :)



Ron Perrillo wrote:
> Are you sure it's the carb settings? If you did not treat the gas before
> winter storage with a preservative like Stabil it's more likely
> gummed-up carbs from old/bad gas. If you're lucky it could be cleared up
> by filling the carbs with a carb cleaning product called Sea Foam. Allow
> it to sit in there for the recommended amount of time, overnight if it's
> bad,occasionally go slosh the stuff around by moving the bike back and
> forth/side to side, drain the Sea Foam out replace with fresh gas and
> try to start it again. I have heard that Yamaha makes a good product for
> this purpose as well but I can't remember what it's called.
>
> Ron
>
> Chicago
>
> */Patrick Shelston /* wrote:
>
> Good day members,
>
> Being the first nice day of year in Toronto. I decided to pull out the
> vfr for the innaugural ride.
>
> Well, she won't start. She putters to life put dies only seconds later.
>
> Would anyone be able to tell me what the baseline settings should be
> on the carbs? Like the idle speed screw, mixtures... How many turns
> out? I know the PO messed with the carbs.
>
> Many thanks on a beautiful saturday!
>
> Patrick
> 1994 Honda VFR750F
>
> On 4/4/08, lguttilla@xxxxxx wrote:
> > btw Matt, I may be a little more reserved in my old age - but
> that don't
> > mean my skillz is gone away.
> > I can still low-side with the best of them!
> > seriously, i know it's only 500 miles, but i been tearing that
> Beemer up.
> > =)
> >
> > Lou
> > SF, CA
> >
> >
> > -------------- Original message --------------
> > From: Matthew Roth
> > Yep, Leah fits the bill there...no wonder he's going all soft...
> >
> > Can't really fault Lou here IMO--it's just fate...and definitely
> age...and
> > the degradation of riding skills that come with it too...
> >
> > Matt Roth
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Greg Wrote:
> > Greg Verderber"
> > To:"vfrlist" , "Lou Guttilla" ,
> > "Bill Ng"
> > Date:Thu, 3 Apr 2008 20:01:25 -0700 (PDT)
> > Subject:Re:
> >
> > I am disconsolate at the passing of yet another hero.
> > What next, Hussey trades in his beemer for a cage (oh
> > wait, he already did that).
> > I'm going to go down to the garage lower my brake
> > fluid to half mast.
> >
> > Must be a DAMN good woman behind all this!
> > ;-)
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Greg
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Matt
> >
> >
> > You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of
> Blockbuster
> > Total Access, No Cost.
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Thanks for assistance so far.

Yes, it did run, when I bought it, but needed the PO to adjust the idle
adjuster open (just discovered that 1,500-1,600rpm is perfect to start her
up).

I bought it, gassed it up and drove it to storage in October. I put Stabil
in it, but I couldn't start it to flow it through the carbs.

--

Fast forward 2 hours... I got it to start with the idle speed about 2 turns
from closed, but now it idles at 1500-1600 rpm.

So, I've got some problems with some jets, I reckon. Fred suggested the
pilots...

The PO installed a Stage-1 Dynojet kit (no drilling done) and claims to have
cleaned & sync'd the carb, but I'm not convinced.

I wasn't really looking for more work, but I guess I don't have a choice.
Maybe I'll try running some SeaFoam through it. I'm sure you'll see lots
(useless) questions from me in the new few weeks :)

Cheers,
Patrick


On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Ed Kokosa wrote:

> Patrick,
>
> Did it run when you bought it?
>
> When did you buy it? When was it last running?
>
> When was the current gas put in?
>
> Sitting for a few months in Toronto (or what I imagine to be Toronto)
> winter temperatures may not necessarily cause gas-gumming problems.
>
> Sitting for six months in the summer, yes you'll have gummed-up carbs.
>
> Ed
>
> 1998 VFR800
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Are you sure it's the carb settings? If you did not treat the gas before
> winter storage with a preservative like Stabil it's more likely gummed-up
> carbs from old/bad gas. If you're lucky it could be cleared up by filling
> the carbs with a carb cleaning product called Sea Foam. Allow it to sit in
> there for the recommended amount of time, overnight if it's bad,occasionally
> go slosh the stuff around by moving the bike back and forth/side to side,
> drain the Sea Foam out replace with fresh gas and try to start it again. I
> have heard that Yamaha makes a good product for this purpose as well but I
> can't remember what it's called.
>
>
>
> Ron
>
>
>
> Chicago
>
> *Patrick Shelston * wrote:
>
> Good day members,
>
> Being the first nice day of year in Toronto. I decided to pull out the
> vfr for the innaugural ride.
>
> Well, she won't start. She putters to life put dies only seconds later.
>
> Would anyone be able to tell me what the baseline settings should be
> on the carbs? Like the idle speed screw, mixtures... How many turns
> out? I know the PO messed with the carbs.
>
> Many thanks on a beautiful saturday!
>
> Patrick
> 1994 Honda VFR750F
>
>
>
>

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Sounds like you have a little bit of gumming. Put in a good carb/FI cleaner
and run a tank through and you should be good to go. Mine always takes a
bit to get running in the spring (usually don't do any storage type stuff in
the fall), but then runs fine once the old fuel in the bowls gets used up
and clean fuel gets in to dissolve the residue.



Don't go into the carbs unless you have to.



Draining the carbs of the old gas before trying to start can be a good
practice first thing in the spring, but I'm usually too lazy to pull body
panels and just deal with the long start process.



I did get to ride mine in this morning, so things are looking up :-)



Carl

_____

From: vfr-bounces@xxxxxx [mailto:vfr-bounces@xxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Patrick Shelston
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 6:14 PM
To: vfr@xxxxxx
Subject: Re: Baseline carb setting for stock 94



Thanks for assistance so far.

Yes, it did run, when I bought it, but needed the PO to adjust the idle
adjuster open (just discovered that 1,500-1,600rpm is perfect to start her
up).

I bought it, gassed it up and drove it to storage in October. I put Stabil
in it, but I couldn't start it to flow it through the carbs.

--

Fast forward 2 hours... I got it to start with the idle speed about 2 turns
from closed, but now it idles at 1500-1600 rpm.

So, I've got some problems with some jets, I reckon. Fred suggested the
pilots...

The PO installed a Stage-1 Dynojet kit (no drilling done) and claims to have
cleaned & sync'd the carb, but I'm not convinced.

I wasn't really looking for more work, but I guess I don't have a choice.
Maybe I'll try running some SeaFoam through it. I'm sure you'll see lots
(useless) questions from me in the new few weeks :)

Cheers,
Patrick



On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Ed Kokosa > wrote:

Patrick,

Did it run when you bought it?

When did you buy it? When was it last running?

When was the current gas put in?

Sitting for a few months in Toronto (or what I imagine to be Toronto) winter
temperatures may not necessarily cause gas-gumming problems.

Sitting for six months in the summer, yes you'll have gummed-up carbs.

Ed

1998 VFR800



_____

Are you sure it's the carb settings? If you did not treat the gas before
winter storage with a preservative like Stabil it's more likely gummed-up
carbs from old/bad gas. If you're lucky it could be cleared up by filling
the carbs with a carb cleaning product called Sea Foam. Allow it to sit in
there for the recommended amount of time, overnight if it's bad,occasionally
go slosh the stuff around by moving the bike back and forth/side to side,
drain the Sea Foam out replace with fresh gas and try to start it again. I
have heard that Yamaha makes a good product for this purpose as well but I
can't remember what it's called.



Ron



Chicago

Patrick Shelston >
wrote:

Good day members,

Being the first nice day of year in Toronto. I decided to pull out the
vfr for the innaugural ride.

Well, she won't start. She putters to life put dies only seconds later.

Would anyone be able to tell me what the baseline settings should be
on the carbs? Like the idle speed screw, mixtures... How many turns
out? I know the PO messed with the carbs.

Many thanks on a beautiful saturday!

Patrick
1994 Honda VFR750F








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Carl,



What kind of carb cleaner do you run thru it? Seafoam or something else?



Dave Jordan

1997 VFR750F

Chicagoland

_____

From: vfr-bounces@xxxxxx [mailto:vfr-bounces@xxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Walzer, Carl (.)
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 9:19 AM
To: Patrick Shelston; vfr@xxxxxx
Subject: RE: Baseline carb setting for stock 94



Sounds like you have a little bit of gumming. Put in a good carb/FI cleaner
and run a tank through and you should be good to go. Mine always takes a
bit to get running in the spring (usually don't do any storage type stuff in
the fall), but then runs fine once the old fuel in the bowls gets used up
and clean fuel gets in to dissolve the residue.



Don't go into the carbs unless you have to.



Draining the carbs of the old gas before trying to start can be a good
practice first thing in the spring, but I'm usually too lazy to pull body
panels and just deal with the long start process.



I did get to ride mine in this morning, so things are looking up :-)



Carl

_____

From: vfr-bounces@xxxxxx [mailto:vfr-bounces@xxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Patrick Shelston
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 6:14 PM
To: vfr@xxxxxx
Subject: Re: Baseline carb setting for stock 94



Thanks for assistance so far.

Yes, it did run, when I bought it, but needed the PO to adjust the idle
adjuster open (just discovered that 1,500-1,600rpm is perfect to start her
up).

I bought it, gassed it up and drove it to storage in October. I put Stabil
in it, but I couldn't start it to flow it through the carbs.

--

Fast forward 2 hours... I got it to start with the idle speed about 2 turns
from closed, but now it idles at 1500-1600 rpm.

So, I've got some problems with some jets, I reckon. Fred suggested the
pilots...

The PO installed a Stage-1 Dynojet kit (no drilling done) and claims to have
cleaned & sync'd the carb, but I'm not convinced.

I wasn't really looking for more work, but I guess I don't have a choice.
Maybe I'll try running some SeaFoam through it. I'm sure you'll see lots
(useless) questions from me in the new few weeks :)

Cheers,
Patrick

On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Ed Kokosa wrote:

Patrick,

Did it run when you bought it?

When did you buy it? When was it last running?

When was the current gas put in?

Sitting for a few months in Toronto (or what I imagine to be Toronto) winter
temperatures may not necessarily cause gas-gumming problems.

Sitting for six months in the summer, yes you'll have gummed-up carbs.

Ed

1998 VFR800



_____

Are you sure it's the carb settings? If you did not treat the gas before
winter storage with a preservative like Stabil it's more likely gummed-up
carbs from old/bad gas. If you're lucky it could be cleared up by filling
the carbs with a carb cleaning product called Sea Foam. Allow it to sit in
there for the recommended amount of time, overnight if it's bad,occasionally
go slosh the stuff around by moving the bike back and forth/side to side,
drain the Sea Foam out replace with fresh gas and try to start it again. I
have heard that Yamaha makes a good product for this purpose as well but I
can't remember what it's called.



Ron



Chicago

Patrick Shelston wrote:

Good day members,

Being the first nice day of year in Toronto. I decided to pull out the
vfr for the innaugural ride.

Well, she won't start. She putters to life put dies only seconds later.

Would anyone be able to tell me what the baseline settings should be
on the carbs? Like the idle speed screw, mixtures... How many turns
out? I know the PO messed with the carbs.

Many thanks on a beautiful saturday!

Patrick
1994 Honda VFR750F






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I usually just pick up a good quality carb cleaner from the auto parts
store. Textron is what I've used lately, but others will work. The Seafoam
appears to be a similar product, and I have seen that at the auto parts
store occasionally too. I suggest getting a name brand, but that is just
me.



Carl

_____

From: DaCatDaddy [mailto:dacatdaddy@xxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 11:28 AM
To: 'Walzer, Carl (.)'; 'Patrick Shelston'; vfr@xxxxxx
Subject: RE: Baseline carb setting for stock 94



Carl,



What kind of carb cleaner do you run thru it? Seafoam or something else?



Dave Jordan

1997 VFR750F

Chicagoland

_____

From: vfr-bounces@xxxxxx [mailto:vfr-bounces@xxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Walzer, Carl (.)
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 9:19 AM
To: Patrick Shelston; vfr@xxxxxx
Subject: RE: Baseline carb setting for stock 94



Sounds like you have a little bit of gumming. Put in a good carb/FI cleaner
and run a tank through and you should be good to go. Mine always takes a
bit to get running in the spring (usually don't do any storage type stuff in
the fall), but then runs fine once the old fuel in the bowls gets used up
and clean fuel gets in to dissolve the residue.



Don't go into the carbs unless you have to.



Draining the carbs of the old gas before trying to start can be a good
practice first thing in the spring, but I'm usually too lazy to pull body
panels and just deal with the long start process.



I did get to ride mine in this morning, so things are looking up :-)



Carl

_____

From: vfr-bounces@xxxxxx [mailto:vfr-bounces@xxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Patrick Shelston
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 6:14 PM
To: vfr@xxxxxx
Subject: Re: Baseline carb setting for stock 94



Thanks for assistance so far.

Yes, it did run, when I bought it, but needed the PO to adjust the idle
adjuster open (just discovered that 1,500-1,600rpm is perfect to start her
up).

I bought it, gassed it up and drove it to storage in October. I put Stabil
in it, but I couldn't start it to flow it through the carbs.

--

Fast forward 2 hours... I got it to start with the idle speed about 2 turns
from closed, but now it idles at 1500-1600 rpm.

So, I've got some problems with some jets, I reckon. Fred suggested the
pilots...

The PO installed a Stage-1 Dynojet kit (no drilling done) and claims to have
cleaned & sync'd the carb, but I'm not convinced.

I wasn't really looking for more work, but I guess I don't have a choice.
Maybe I'll try running some SeaFoam through it. I'm sure you'll see lots
(useless) questions from me in the new few weeks :)

Cheers,
Patrick

On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Ed Kokosa > wrote:

Patrick,

Did it run when you bought it?

When did you buy it? When was it last running?

When was the current gas put in?

Sitting for a few months in Toronto (or what I imagine to be Toronto) winter
temperatures may not necessarily cause gas-gumming problems.

Sitting for six months in the summer, yes you'll have gummed-up carbs.

Ed

1998 VFR800



_____

Are you sure it's the carb settings? If you did not treat the gas before
winter storage with a preservative like Stabil it's more likely gummed-up
carbs from old/bad gas. If you're lucky it could be cleared up by filling
the carbs with a carb cleaning product called Sea Foam. Allow it to sit in
there for the recommended amount of time, overnight if it's bad,occasionally
go slosh the stuff around by moving the bike back and forth/side to side,
drain the Sea Foam out replace with fresh gas and try to start it again. I
have heard that Yamaha makes a good product for this purpose as well but I
can't remember what it's called.



Ron



Chicago

Patrick Shelston >
wrote:

Good day members,

Being the first nice day of year in Toronto. I decided to pull out the
vfr for the innaugural ride.

Well, she won't start. She putters to life put dies only seconds later.

Would anyone be able to tell me what the baseline settings should be
on the carbs? Like the idle speed screw, mixtures... How many turns
out? I know the PO messed with the carbs.

Many thanks on a beautiful saturday!

Patrick
1994 Honda VFR750F






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