RE: Fuel injector/carb cleaner (was: Baseline carb setting forstock94)

Yeah, but how does that compare to Lemon Pledge?

A little Google'ing and some interpolation tells this layman that
Techron is a cousin to WD40. And that's NOT a troll...



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From: vfr-bounces@xxxxxx [mailto:vfr-bounces@xxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Ed Kokosa
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 10:56 PM
To: vfr@xxxxxx
Cc: 'Walzer, Carl (.)'
Subject: RE: Fuel injector/carb cleaner (was: Baseline carb
setting for stock94)



Carl,

Not meaning to pick on your memory or spelling, but how about
your info?

I previously was not familiar with Seafoam, but looking at their
website, umm, errr, well, me thinks that might be snake oil.

I'm sure that plenty of people rave about it, but....

It supposedly:

Stabilizes fuel

Cleans carburetor

Cleans carbon

Removes moisture

Assures fast starts

Frees sticky rings

Restores power

Upper cylinder lube

Smooths rough idle

And you can pour it down the carb, pour it in your gas tank , or
even pour it into your crankcase. Are you can't also use it as a desert
topping?



Per its MSDS, the components of (hazardous) interest are:

Pale Oil, 40-60% by wt

Naptha, 24-35% by wt

IPA (Isopropyl alcohol) 10-20% by wt



This is not comparable to Techron.

It's MSDS (hazardous) components are:

Distillates, hydrotreated light, < 55 %weight

Stoddard solvent, < 35 %weight

Solvent naphtha, light aromatic, 3 - 7 %weight

Benzene, 1,2,4-trimethyl-, 1-5 %weight

Xylene 0.1 - 0.5 %weight



The proprietary item is polyether amine (PEA), which apparently
does not require MSDS listing.



Perhaps Seafoam also has some other active ingredients, I
suspect (with no real knowledge, typically doesn't deter me) that it
doesn't. Those three ingredients are it. The IPA removes moisture, the
Naptha helps dissolve things. You could buy your own Naptha, mix it
into some oil, good to go.



I'll bring a bottle of Techron Concentrate Plus to COTU and we
can do some shots in the parking lot.

Your fuel injector preference may vary.

Ed






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From: Walzer, Carl (.) [mailto:CWALZER@xxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 10:33 AM
To: Ed Kokosa; vfr@xxxxxx
Cc: 'DaCatDaddy'; 'Patrick Shelston'
Subject: RE: Fuel injector/carb cleaner (was: Baseline carb
setting for stock 94)



And if my memory or spelling ability worked, that would be the
way I spell it. Seems to work real good. >From all the raving, the
Seafoam stuff is about the same but marketed more to the
ATV/PWC/motorcycle communities.



Carl


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The guys at SAABNET.com swear that the absolute best fuel
injector cleaner uses Chevron Techron. I believe that there are only
two products with it, same manufacturer (Chevron), and they are simply
different concentrations. The stronger concentration seems to be the
preferred.

http://www.chevron.com/products/ourf...erv/additives/



Ed

1998 VFR800

2002 9-5 Aero SW


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Ed,



Good point and research. I will not be using anymore Seafoam. Thanks



Dave Jordan

1997 VFR750F

Chicagoland

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From: vfr-bounces@xxxxxx [mailto:vfr-bounces@xxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Ed Kokosa
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 9:56 PM
To: vfr@xxxxxx
Cc: 'Walzer, Carl (.)'
Subject: RE: Fuel injector/carb cleaner (was: Baseline carb setting for
stock94)



Carl,

Not meaning to pick on your memory or spelling, but how about your info?

I previously was not familiar with Seafoam, but looking at their website,
umm, errr, well, me thinks that might be snake oil.

I'm sure that plenty of people rave about it, but..

It supposedly:

Stabilizes fuel

Cleans carburetor

Cleans carbon

Removes moisture

Assures fast starts

Frees sticky rings

Restores power

Upper cylinder lube

Smooths rough idle

And you can pour it down the carb, pour it in your gas tank , or even pour
it into your crankcase. Are you can't also use it as a desert topping?



Per its MSDS, the components of (hazardous) interest are:

Pale Oil, 40-60% by wt

Naptha, 24-35% by wt

IPA (Isopropyl alcohol) 10-20% by wt



This is not comparable to Techron.

It's MSDS (hazardous) components are:

Distillates, hydrotreated light, < 55 %weight

Stoddard solvent, < 35 %weight

Solvent naphtha, light aromatic, 3 - 7 %weight

Benzene, 1,2,4-trimethyl-, 1-5 %weight

Xylene 0.1 - 0.5 %weight



The proprietary item is polyether amine (PEA), which apparently does not
require MSDS listing.



Perhaps Seafoam also has some other active ingredients, I suspect (with no
real knowledge, typically doesn't deter me) that it doesn't. Those three
ingredients are it. The IPA removes moisture, the Naptha helps dissolve
things. You could buy your own Naptha, mix it into some oil, good to go.



I'll bring a bottle of Techron Concentrate Plus to COTU and we can do some
shots in the parking lot.

Your fuel injector preference may vary.

Ed





_____

From: Walzer, Carl (.) [mailto:CWALZER@xxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 10:33 AM
To: Ed Kokosa; vfr@xxxxxx
Cc: 'DaCatDaddy'; 'Patrick Shelston'
Subject: RE: Fuel injector/carb cleaner (was: Baseline carb setting for
stock 94)



And if my memory or spelling ability worked, that would be the way I spell
it. Seems to work real good. >From all the raving, the Seafoam stuff is
about the same but marketed more to the ATV/PWC/motorcycle communities.



Carl

_____



The guys at SAABNET.com swear that the absolute best fuel injector cleaner
uses Chevron Techron. I believe that there are only two products with it,
same manufacturer (Chevron), and they are simply different concentrations.
The stronger concentration seems to be the preferred.

http://www.chevron.com/products/ourf...erv/additives/



Ed

1998 VFR800

2002 9-5 Aero SW


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I wish someone would market convenient motorcycle -size dosages of carb
cleaner.
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