Re: "97 R/R

I've got a '95 4th gen, and am on my 3rd R/R.? First one, stock of course, failed at about 5 years and 44K miles.? I replaced it with a stock one which lasted about 3 yrs.? The present one is another stock direct replacement, but has small cooling fins on it which the first two didn't have, and has lasted about 5 years and 30K miles.? I just carry a stock R/R with me when traveling long distances, and recently installed a little?Kuryakyn voltage monitor to kind of keep an eye on things and hopefully?tell me?when bad things START happening, not after.? Otherwise, the bike has been trouble free, now?at 93K miles
..
Laura M
'95 VFR
'01 FZ1

'89 Transalp

'02 DRZ

'04 ST1300


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1. Parts Needed for 6th Generation '02 VFR (Michael Williams)
2. Re: Bicycling Vs. BDCs (Ed Moore)
3. RE: intermittent battery failure cont (Brad Berson)
4. RE: Well, they finally got me (Brad Berson)
5. Re: Well, they finally got me (Paul Kolbo)
6. RE: Parts Needed for 6th Generation '02 VFR (DaCatDaddy)
7. Re: Parts Needed for 6th Generation '02 VFR (turgut kalfaoglu)
8. Two Bros High Mount Extension (Herb)
9. Re: intermittent battery failure cont (vic5491@xxxxxx)
10. RE: intermittent battery failure cont (DaCatDaddy)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 18:10:56 -0700
From: "Michael Williams"
Subject: Parts Needed for 6th Generation '02 VFR
To:
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Hey Listers,



I already sent out a wanted list yesterday, but after more tinkering found
my license plate light harness is completely corroded.I cleaned it up as
best I could bought a new bulb & it still won't work.I think I just need to
replace the harness/assembly.so, any of you have the full harness connecting
into the electrical system for the license plate light please hit me up.I'm
also in need of the "internals" (the internal weights) to the stock clip-on
handlebars, and the rights side crankcase cover.let me know if you have
these items & are willing to part with them &/or if know somebody that has
these items.thanks.



Michael Williams

Sherwood, OR

'02 VFR (putting it back together for the 4th time)

'01 CBR1100XX Blackbird as my backup

michaelinshrwd@xxxxxx



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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 19:26:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ed Moore
Subject: Re: Bicycling Vs. BDCs
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I don't hate most cagers, hell sometimes I am a cager myself. However,
when I was a fulltime bicyclist, I had more close calls than I care to
remember. Back then, I was younger, fitter and much much loonier.

The average cager really isn't ready for someone dressed in lycra, a silly
helmet and a weensy bicycle to chase him, catch him at a light and proceed
to drag him from his car. Of course, back then, I weighed about 178 of
solid muscle, had great endurance and no scruples whatsoever.

These days, I am more content to turn lawyers loose on their ass. I really
know how to ruin their day.

Ed Moore





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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 00:02:14 -0400
From: "Brad Berson"
Subject: RE: intermittent battery failure cont
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> I don't remember when Honda finally released the version
> that is reliable...

They didn't. They did release a version that was less unreliable
however.


-Brad


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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 00:14:37 -0400
From: "Brad Berson"
Subject: RE: Well, they finally got me
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Sorry to hear of your misfortune. The bad news it that the twit who cut
you off will never know how much her cup of coffee will have cost
because her insurance company won't bother telling her. And you may end
up screwed out of your deductible in the process.

Yeah, I too had about four people try to kill me on Sunday morning
before I even got a mile from my home.


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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 00:05:09 -0500
From: "Paul Kolbo"
Subject: Re: Well, they finally got me
To: "Brad Berson" ,
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It might even be worse than that. If she claims she did not cause your
crash, and she was not ticketed for any offense, her insurance may just tell
you to fly a kite. Sorry to sound cynical, but it's her word against yours
and even though you have witnesses, they might be willing to bet that you
wouldn't pursue any legal action.

Paul


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Subject: RE: Well, they finally got me


> Sorry to hear of your misfortune. The bad news it that the twit who cut
> you off will never know how much her cup of coffee will have cost
> because her insurance company won't bother telling her. And you may end
> up screwed out of your deductible in the process.
>
> Yeah, I too had about four people try to kill me on Sunday morning
> before I even got a mile from my home.
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 06:17:12 -0500
From: "DaCatDaddy"
Subject: RE: Parts Needed for 6th Generation '02 VFR
To: "'Michael Williams'" ,

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Can't help you on the parts, but at least you have a nice backup, the
Blackbird. How do you like it and how bad is the insurance cost?



Dave Jordan

1997 VFR750F Gen4

Chicagoland

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Michael Williams
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 8:11 PM
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Subject: Parts Needed for 6th Generation '02 VFR



Hey Listers,



I already sent out a wanted list yesterday, but after more tinkering found
my license plate light harness is completely corroded.I cleaned it up as
best I could bought a new bulb & it still won't work.I think I just need to
replace the harness/assembly.so, any of you have the full harness connecting
into the electrical system for the license plate light please hit me up.I'm
also in need of the "internals" (the internal weights) to the stock clip-on
handlebars, and the rights side crankcase cover.let me know if you have
these items & are willing to part with them &/or if know somebody that has
these items.thanks.



Michael Williams

Sherwood, OR

'02 VFR (putting it back together for the 4th time)

'01 CBR1100XX Blackbird as my backup

michaelinshrwd@xxxxxx



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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 14:22:23 +0300
From: turgut kalfaoglu
Subject: Re: Parts Needed for 6th Generation '02 VFR
To: vfr@xxxxxx
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That reminds me of another question: I was wondering what to take for
longer touring trips on my VFR,
and I wonder what parts would break down, and which replacement parts I
should get before leaving home?

Thanks, -turgut



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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 08:28:31 -0400
From: Herb
Subject: Two Bros High Mount Extension
To: vfr@xxxxxx
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Hi All-

WTB: High Mount pipe extension for a Two Brothers slip on. Anyone have
one? Or know a source? (None on ebay)

I called Two Bros and was told they do not manufacture this part
anymore. I'm currently running a low mount but would like to show off
the single sided swingarm.

Would another brand's pipe extension work (Staintune)? Part number/source?
Anyone have the required dimensions? Perhaps I could have one made?

Herb
'99 VFR
Arlington, Va


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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 07:22:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: "vic5491@xxxxxx"
Subject: Re: intermittent battery failure cont
To: jzh3@xxxxxx
Cc: vfr@xxxxxx
Message-ID: <597789.14204.qm@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

I hope your confidence in the new "improved" Honda RR is warranted but in the
meanwhile, you may want to keep an eye on ebay for a 04-06 R1 RR for cheap.

You are, however, correct. No statistically significant testing has been done
to suggest that the Yamaha R1 RR is better than the new "improved" Honda RR but
I personally know of two listers who have had the upgraded RR fail in about a
year of service. I do not know of anyone who has done the R1 conversion who has
had a failure. While the samples are too small to draw any conclusions from, I
decided that Honda (or their supplier Shindengen or both) did not know what the
f**k they were doing for years so why should I trust them now? On the other
hand, according to a Honda/Yamaha/Kawasaki/MotoGuzzi/Ducati mechanic I know and
trust (he is actually a mechanical engineer from S. Africa), Yamaha's
electronics and electricals are far superior to all of the others, especially
Honda which he describes as crap. He said they have more Honda electrical
problems than all of the others combined. So, when I got serious about fixing
the electrical gremlins, I went with Yamaha and
could not be happier.

BTW, if anyone reading this note does the R1 RR conversion, the one I used
(along with Capt Chris) was an 04-06 unit. I can't speak for the others. I do
know that the latest R1s have a smaller RR and it is located INSIDE THE AIRBOX
(great idea!) to keep it cool. I'm not sure if it would work on a VFR since the
location of the RR restricts its airflow. It may work but I cannot say for
sure.

Incidentally, to use the R1 RR you have to cut about 1/2" off of their very
large fins for it to fit behind the cowl. Even having done that, it runs cool!
This past weekend it was in the high 80s and my RR never went about 115F. The
old Honda one would get so hot you could not hold your finger on it for more
than a fraction of a second. I agree with you. Putting a PC fan on it is not a
real solution. The fan "MAY" help but the real problem is a flawed RR design.

Vic



< more or less relaible than the "upgraded" Honda (Shindengen) reg/rec
that I have. (Nor is there any real evidence that a PC fan prolongs
the life of any reg/rec, but perhaps that is a topic for another
day...)

Ciao,

JZH
London, UK
www.vsource.org>>




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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 09:32:15 -0500
From: "DaCatDaddy"
Subject: RE: intermittent battery failure cont
To: ,
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Does this R1 fix work on 1997 VFR models? Does the 97 VFR have the RR
problem? I'm a newbie to the VFR bike, as I got it last October. Any help
is appreciated



Dave Jordan

1997 VFR750F Gen4

Chicagoland

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From: vfr-bounces@xxxxxx [mailto:vfr-bounces@xxxxxx] On Behalf Of
vic5491@xxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 9:23 AM
To: jzh3@xxxxxx
Cc: vfr@xxxxxx
Subject: Re: intermittent battery failure cont



I hope your confidence in the new "improved" Honda RR is warranted but in
the meanwhile, you may want to keep an eye on ebay for a 04-06 R1 RR for
cheap.



You are, however, correct. No statistically significant testing has been
done to suggest that the Yamaha R1 RR is better than the new "improved"
Honda RR but I personally know of two listers who have had the upgraded RR
fail in about a year of service. I do not know of anyone who has done the
R1 conversion who has had a failure. While the samples are too small to
draw any conclusions from, I decided that Honda (or their supplier
Shindengen or both) did not know what the f**k they were doing for years so
why should I trust them now? On the other hand, according to a
Honda/Yamaha/Kawasaki/MotoGuzzi/Ducati mechanic I know and trust (he is
actually a mechanical engineer from S. Africa), Yamaha's electronics and
electricals are far superior to all of the others, especially Honda which he
describes as crap. He said they have more Honda electrical problems than
all of the others combined. So, when I got serious about fixing the
electrical gremlins, I went with Yamaha and could not be happier.



BTW, if anyone reading this note does the R1 RR conversion, the one I used
(along with Capt Chris) was an 04-06 unit. I can't speak for the others. I
do know that the latest R1s have a smaller RR and it is located INSIDE THE
AIRBOX (great idea!) to keep it cool. I'm not sure if it would work on a
VFR since the location of the RR restricts its airflow. It may work but I
cannot say for sure.



Incidentally, to use the R1 RR you have to cut about 1/2" off of their very
large fins for it to fit behind the cowl. Even having done that, it runs
cool! This past weekend it was in the high 80s and my RR never went about
115F. The old Honda one would get so hot you could not hold your finger on
it for more than a fraction of a second. I agree with you. Putting a PC
fan on it is not a real solution. The fan "MAY" help but the real problem
is a flawed RR design.



Vic







< more or less relaible than the "upgraded" Honda (Shindengen) reg/rec
that I have. (Nor is there any real evidence that a PC fan prolongs
the life of any reg/rec, but perhaps that is a topic for another
day...)

Ciao,

JZH
London, UK
www.vsource.org>>



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