Re: vfr Digest, Vol 52, Issue 13

Hey guys/ladies,

May be a silly question but I have a rear tire with a screw in the middle of the tread. I was debating weather or not to plug it or replace? Its a road attack with about 1000 miles on it, so I'm a little depressed about having to replace it. I know its dangerous but have had friends who have plugged tires and riden on them til they needed to be replaced. If anyone has a comment or suggestions I would apprecaite any feedback. Thanks in advance. Ride safe.

Steve



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1. Re: lane splitting in VA (Claudia Glenn Barasch)
2. Re: lane splitting in VA (Daniel M)
3. Re: lane splitting in VA (lguttilla@xxxxxx)
4. WOTL sought, Backfires, Causes and Cures? (Daniel Barufaldi)
5. Re: lane splitting in VA (ForsaleinFL@xxxxxx)
6. Re: lane splitting in VA (ForsaleinFL@xxxxxx)
7. RE: WOTL sought, Backfires, Causes and Cures? (Walzer, Carl (.))
8. RE: lane splitting in CA (Ed Kokosa)
9. Re: WOTL sought, Backfires, Causes and Cures? (JohnMurin@xxxxxx)
10. Re: lane splitting in VA (jzh3@xxxxxx)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:45:11 +0000
From: "Claudia Glenn Barasch"
Subject: Re: lane splitting in VA
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No u r not mistaken-splitting at that speed is called passing. Oye
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Subject: Re: lane splitting in VA

Huth, Mark wrote:
> saying it shouldn't be done or shouldn't be legal, just that it takes
> some time to realize you have to watch for the bike riding between lanes
> at 75mph.

My understanding is that splitting lanes at 75mph is not legal, even in CA.

Am I mistaken?


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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:51:53 -0400
From: "Daniel M"
Subject: Re: lane splitting in VA
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Is there any other country in the world other than The USA where
lane-splitting is illegal?

What is the purpose of any two-wheeled vehicle in city traffic other than to
get there faster?

I am entirely for lane-splitting, anywhere, anytime, even though here in PA
I have been cursed at, threatened by raging lunatics and even had driver's
aggressively veer onto my lane.

The west coast seems very inviting.

d.



On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Huth, Mark wrote:

>
> I can see how this is a necessity at times but have to admit I'm more
> than a little hesitant to do that here in Wisconsin. Luckily, I'm not
> stuck in traffic that often so I keep moving, as a rule.
>
> I also admit that I was quite uncomfortable about lane-splitters in
> California when I was there for a recent visit. I was worried that I
> would forget to take that last look around before changing lanes and
> would end up causing a bad situation for someone on two wheels. I'm not
> saying it shouldn't be done or shouldn't be legal, just that it takes
> some time to realize you have to watch for the bike riding between lanes
> at 75mph.
>
> ~mph
>
> >>>>>>>
>
> Good for you. Here in Ga. the driver's will take a rider out for doing
> that and the courts will support them.
>
> >>>>>>>
>
> Illegal in ny and I doubt that I am alone in stating that I split
> everyday-no tickets to date-its a necessity especially in summer-most
> folks pull a bit over and make room I find.
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Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:31:39 +0000
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Subject: Re: lane splitting in VA
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like anything or anywhere else there are good and bad to everything.
very good weather, incredible roads & lane splitting good.
$600k+ for my 2 bedroom, 1 bath condo w/no parking or common area (in a decent) neighborhood is bad.
i left NYC so i wasn't sticker shocked moving to SF.
Tom Blooming nearly had a stroke last week when he came out to see real estate.
he cancelled his move to Nor-Cal from GA.
to each their own, but once you've ridden here...
=)
Lou
SF, CA


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From: "Daniel M"

Is there any other country in the world other than The USA where lane-splitting is illegal?

What is the purpose of any two-wheeled vehicle in city traffic other than to get there faster?

I am entirely for lane-splitting, anywhere, anytime, even though here in PA I have been cursed at, threatened by raging lunatics and even had driver's aggressively veer onto my lane.

The west coast seems very inviting.

d.



On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Huth, Mark wrote:


I can see how this is a necessity at times but have to admit I'm more
than a little hesitant to do that here in Wisconsin. Luckily, I'm not
stuck in traffic that often so I keep moving, as a rule.

I also admit that I was quite uncomfortable about lane-splitters in
California when I was there for a recent visit. I was worried that I
would forget to take that last look around before changing lanes and
would end up causing a bad situation for someone on two wheels. I'm not
saying it shouldn't be done or shouldn't be legal, just that it takes
some time to realize you have to watch for the bike riding between lanes
at 75mph.

~mph


>>>>>>>

Good for you. Here in Ga. the driver's will take a rider out for doing
that and the courts will support them.

>>>>>>>


Illegal in ny and I doubt that I am alone in stating that I split
everyday-no tickets to date-its a necessity especially in summer-most
folks pull a bit over and make room I find.



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Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:43:15 +0200 (CEST)
From: Daniel Barufaldi
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My guess is leaking exhaust. On mine, it is in the weird exchanger, where the 4 pipes come together. Someone once explained why exhaust leaks cause popping, but I can't remember the theory.

In lieu of a repair, you can learn to keep a very small maintenance throttle on decel. Mine only happens when the revs are high, and they are allowed to fall (decel) for a while. Short decels, decels that are from lower revs, etc don't really trigger it.

So when I have a long decel, I crack the throttle open, and it lessens the effect. Of course, I could just repair the thing (again)....but I don't want to bother, and I don't want an aftermarket system.

Dan B

The old girl is developing a severe case of
flatulence.

For it's entire recorded history, closed throttle for
engine braking yielded an occasional mild pop. This
season it's progressed to frequent and loud bangs out
the exhaust. Worse when coming down from higher revs.

Nothing's been intentionally changed as far as the
engine/intake/exhaust goes (the bike is stock in that
regard except for a k&n air filter). Plugs were
changed about 5000 miles ago when the last valve check
was done.
(96 version with 117,000 miles)

Any thoughts on a possible cause and cure?

Regards,
Greg






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Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:45:20 EDT
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In a message dated 7/17/08 6:52:06 AM, zupatun@xxxxxx writes:


> but people get very pissed and pinched off my lane and yell and shout etc..
>

Yeah, locals did that shite when I lived/splitted lanes in Miami, a 4th world
country with SLIGHTLY more consistent electricity.

Jackasses. I did it anyway, only using 9 fingers, as one was occupied....

-greginLA


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In a message dated 7/17/08 11:52:27 AM, danielcmendonca@xxxxxx writes:


> The west coast seems very inviting.
>

It is.

Alas, we're currently full.

-gregin LA!


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Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:48:59 -0400
From: "Walzer, Carl (.)"
Subject: RE: WOTL sought, Backfires, Causes and Cures?
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Rich is right, or partially so. A too lean mixture to combust will spill
it's raw gas into the exhaust, where an air leak provides enough oxygen for
the hot gasses to ignite. Richening up might help, as would cracking the
throttle a little (I'm assuming the Amal was set a little more open than
carbs on modern engines), in that there is a better chance the combustion
will occur in the cylinder. But mine is running rich in that area and has
the same problem of popping due to air leaks in the exhaust, so richening
the mixture will only work if you get sufficient air to go with it.



Check all of your exhaust pipe fittings for tightness, all your pipes for
cracks, and even the flanges where the pipes bolt to the head. You might
also want to check your PAIR system to make sure there are no leaks in it
that could be introducing extra oxygen into the exhaust ... well, more than
it is supposed to anyway.



Carl

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This kind of popping on a closed throttle is more likely to be caused by a
lean condition than a rich condition. When you close the throttle you are
implicating the idle/air mixture, so adjusting that circuit a tad to the
rich side side may help. I suppose it's also possible that worn throttle
slides may contribute to leaning out when closed quickly.



Richard Ronay

Amal experience here!



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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:18:04 -0400
From: "Ed Kokosa"
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Well, unfortunately I have never had the opportunity to ride in CA, so I
really don't know how things work there, but that usually doesn't stop me
from my Midwestern opining...
We occasionally attach the process label "Darwism" to those whose actions we
deem likely to improve the human gene pool. I would propose anyone who lane
splits at 75 mph deserves such labeling.
The CHP "guidelines" seem quite acceptable for motorcyclists to obtain the
"reasonable" desired results offered by lane-splitting. I suspect that
anyone who violates those "guidelines" and receives a subsequent citation by
the CHP would not have a chance of winning any resultant legal argument.

Ed (known to occasionally violate reasonable guidelines)

> > Huth, Mark wrote:
> >> saying it shouldn't be done or shouldn't be legal, just that it takes
> >> some time to realize you have to watch for the bike riding between
> >> lanes
> >> at 75mph.
> >
> > My understanding is that splitting lanes at 75mph is not legal, even
> > in CA.
> > Am I mistaken?
> > Chris Merrill
>
> There is no statute that places a limit on the speed of a lane
> splitter. The CHP "guidelines" state no more than 15 mph faster than
> surrounding traffic and no faster than 35-40 mph. But that is just a
> guideline and not a law. I followed it for a short while when I first
> moved from NJ to SoCal. I was lane splitting in NJ too. Mostly on
> Rt. 18 and 287. As far as how fast you can safely split lanes at,
> that depends on a number of things: traffic density, speep, lane
> width, time of day, type of bike, skill of rider, mood of rider, etc.
> There is no hard fast numbers. In one instance, 5 mph above the
> traffic speed is pushing it and in others, 30 mph leaves plenty of
> margin. And sometimes, splitting at 75 mph is no big deal and other
> times it is suicide.
> snip <
> Chris Stumpf



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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:06:11 EDT
From: JohnMurin@xxxxxx
Subject: Re: WOTL sought, Backfires, Causes and Cures?
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I'll second Thomas' diagnosis. My '98 developed a backfiring problem late
last season, mostly when doing decel's from high-ish rev's as you describe (as
for highway off-ramps). I thought I'd also been hearing a slight exhaust leak,
but was never able to pinpoint anything - until I finally pulled the headers
off this winter. That's when I found the gasket for one of the rear mid-pipe
joints had disintegrated. I replaced the exhaust gaskets, and the backfire
has disappeared.

John Murin

>
> My 97 does the same thing. I suspect it's the joint between the exhaust
> pipe and the muffler pipe. There is a gasket in that joint that I'm sure
> has degraded from turning the muffler out of the way to get to the rear
> wheel. I just haven't replaced it and I think it's sucking air in and
> making the causing the pops on deceleration. My 2 cents.
>
> TD
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 7/16/08 9:44 PM, "Greg Verderber" wrote:
>
> >The old girl is developing a severe case of
> >flatulence.
> >
> >For it's entire recorded history, closed throttle for
> >engine braking yielded an occasional mild pop. This
> >season it's progressed to frequent and loud bangs out
> >the exhaust. Worse when coming down from higher revs.
> >
> >Nothing's been intentionally changed as far as the
> >engine/intake/exhaust goes (the bike is stock in that
> >regard except for a k&n air filter). Plugs were
> >changed about 5000 miles ago when the last valve check
> >was done.
> >(96 version with 117,000 miles)
> >
> >Any thoughts on a possible cause and cure?
> >
> >Regards,
> >Greg
> >

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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:14:02 +0100
From: jzh3@xxxxxx
Subject: Re: lane splitting in VA
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....you then have to ride HERE. Yes, NorCal is great for riding, but
having BTDT for a couple of years, I have to point out that Europe is
better (nya, nya, nya)...

As for lane splitting, no, the 49 States are not the "only" place in
the world it is illegal, but there is some degree of tolerance for it
even where it is technically illegal in Europe (Germany comes to
mind). It ("filtering") is essential in London, and drivers in
southern Europe would not understand the question--especially where I
am now, relaxing with the famiglia on the Adriatic coast of Italy. (In
other words, it is normal and expected two-wheeled behavior.)

I'll be thinking of you semi-lucky buggers in Northern California
whilst viewing the MotoGP race on Eurosport on Sunday...

Ciao,

JZH
London, UK
www.vsource.org


On 7/17/08, lguttilla@xxxxxx wrote:
>
> like anything or anywhere else there are good and bad to everything.
> very good weather, incredible roads & lane splitting good.
> $600k+ for my 2 bedroom, 1 bath condo w/no parking or common area (in a
> decent) neighborhood is bad.
> i left NYC so i wasn't sticker shocked moving to SF.
> Tom Blooming nearly had a stroke last week when he came out to see real
> estate.
> he cancelled his move to Nor-Cal from GA.
> to each their own, but once you've ridden here...
> =)
> Lou
> SF, CA
>
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "Daniel M"
>
> Is there any other country in the world other than The USA where
> lane-splitting is illegal?
>
> What is the purpose of any two-wheeled vehicle in city traffic other than to
> get there faster?
>
> I am entirely for lane-splitting, anywhere, anytime, even though here in PA
> I have been cursed at, threatened by raging lunatics and even had driver's
> aggressively veer onto my lane.
>
> The west coast seems very inviting.


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