I went down, No I'm not kidding.

time 5:20 this afternoon.
location a 270+ degree right hand ramp that is slightly bowl shaped
and I regularly take it at more than 55 (touching down peg feelers
and boot toe sliders in various spots)
speed when it all went wrong - 35 mph.
extenuating conditions - Silver Nissan sedan closing rapidly on my tail.

Best description of crash - Dug a boot toe & peg (or possibly the
centerstand) into the pavement and lifted the rear. Washed out the
front as well and slid into the outside curb.

Result: A high-side with four or five bouncing cartwheels, the bike
flipped at least once.

Personal Damage - 'Serious Contusions of three ribs', Bone bruise in
the right palm and assorted aches. Rode the bike home then went to
the ER, was there until 11:40 tonight. Had Xrays of hand, head and
ribs, Cat scans of head, chest and stomach, Two bags of IV saline, a
shot of morphine, blood work, urinalysis and all the
poking/proding/squeezing/pressing/etc that I could stand.
Equipment Damage - pretty much everything, both gloves are chewed at
(one has holes ground through the armour), jacket has outer layer
torn from elbow and back pad sections. Riding pants have several
tears around edges of armour, zippers and seams, Helmet has big
gouges in top with top vent torn away plus visor only stays attached
when closed and right boot has collapsed (crushed) toe section and
lots abrasion damage.
Now let me say this, I was very pleased with all the gear, it did its
job very well and I know that I would be in much worse shape if it
performed as well as it did. I'll review the exact pieces, the damage
and take pictures of the remains as I can.

Finally,
Bike damage. Initial post OS survey - both mirrors, ZG 'ST' screen,
upper fairing, front fender, Meter surround, left bar, left side bag,
left side bag mount, tank bag.
Second survey - front wheel, left side peg, front forks are tweaked
(can't tell if they slipped in the triples or if they are bent yet),
Inner fairing, Upper inner fairing, fairing stay, centerstand, Tank
bag mount (tank bag is okay just filthy)
Third survey - tomorrow if I can.

I'll be taking pictures of the damage as soon as I can (likely
tomorrow) and calling the insurance ASAP.

I doubt that I'll be making WDGAH now unless I buy a big back pack, a
new tank bag mount and change plans to ride the RC51 up.

I hope this is reasonably clear since I'm medicated and exhausted at
this point.
TTFN



JohnS
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Holy craph, John ... glad you're mostly okay.

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Very sorry to hear that mate.
But the usual, at least you are okay, bit.
That is the really good bit.
Been there, binned that but still able to come back and ride again.
Hope you are insured, takes some pain out.
Take care mate.
Best wishes,
Spied
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87 VFR 750
Sydney, Australia
www.ozvfr.net
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Subject: I went down, No I'm not kidding.


>
> time 5:20 this afternoon.
> location a 270+ degree right hand ramp that is slightly bowl shaped
> and I regularly take it at more than 55 (touching down peg feelers
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Good to hear that you're mostly ok. You will be hurting for the next few days.

Here is an interesting read. The dirt is just as dangerous as the pavement.

BTW, this happens to be one of my best friends.

http://www.race-dezert.com/forum/showthread.php?t=47373


On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 11:30 PM, Steve Spider Enfield
wrote:
> Very sorry to hear that mate.
> But the usual, at least you are okay, bit.
> That is the really good bit.
> Been there, binned that but still able to come back and ride again.
> Hope you are insured, takes some pain out.
> Take care mate.
> Best wishes,
> Spied
> *****************************************
> Steve "Spider" Enfield
> 87 VFR 750
> Sydney, Australia
> www.ozvfr.net
> :-)
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> To: "vfrlist" ; "Jeff Foley" ;
> "William O'Brien JR."
> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 3:20 PM
> Subject: I went down, No I'm not kidding.
>
>
>>
>> time 5:20 this afternoon.
>> location a 270+ degree right hand ramp that is slightly bowl shaped
>> and I regularly take it at more than 55 (touching down peg feelers
>> and boot toe sliders in various spots)
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So sorry to hear about this. It sounds like you will be okay. The bike is
replaceable.

Dave Jordan
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Chicagoland
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JES_VFR
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 12:21 AM
To: vfrlist; Jeff Foley; William O'Brien JR.
Subject: I went down, No I'm not kidding.

time 5:20 this afternoon.
location a 270+ degree right hand ramp that is slightly bowl shaped
and I regularly take it at more than 55 (touching down peg feelers
and boot toe sliders in various spots)
speed when it all went wrong - 35 mph.
extenuating conditions - Silver Nissan sedan closing rapidly on my tail.

Best description of crash - Dug a boot toe & peg (or possibly the
centerstand) into the pavement and lifted the rear. Washed out the
front as well and slid into the outside curb.

Result: A high-side with four or five bouncing cartwheels, the bike
flipped at least once.

Personal Damage - 'Serious Contusions of three ribs', Bone bruise in
the right palm and assorted aches. Rode the bike home then went to
the ER, was there until 11:40 tonight. Had Xrays of hand, head and
ribs, Cat scans of head, chest and stomach, Two bags of IV saline, a
shot of morphine, blood work, urinalysis and all the
poking/proding/squeezing/pressing/etc that I could stand.
Equipment Damage - pretty much everything, both gloves are chewed at
(one has holes ground through the armour), jacket has outer layer
torn from elbow and back pad sections. Riding pants have several
tears around edges of armour, zippers and seams, Helmet has big
gouges in top with top vent torn away plus visor only stays attached
when closed and right boot has collapsed (crushed) toe section and
lots abrasion damage.
Now let me say this, I was very pleased with all the gear, it did its
job very well and I know that I would be in much worse shape if it
performed as well as it did. I'll review the exact pieces, the damage
and take pictures of the remains as I can.

Finally,
Bike damage. Initial post OS survey - both mirrors, ZG 'ST' screen,
upper fairing, front fender, Meter surround, left bar, left side bag,
left side bag mount, tank bag.
Second survey - front wheel, left side peg, front forks are tweaked
(can't tell if they slipped in the triples or if they are bent yet),
Inner fairing, Upper inner fairing, fairing stay, centerstand, Tank
bag mount (tank bag is okay just filthy)
Third survey - tomorrow if I can.

I'll be taking pictures of the damage as soon as I can (likely
tomorrow) and calling the insurance ASAP.

I doubt that I'll be making WDGAH now unless I buy a big back pack, a
new tank bag mount and change plans to ride the RC51 up.

I hope this is reasonably clear since I'm medicated and exhausted at
this point.
TTFN



JohnS
A Dragon Ascending
"Forging my body in the Fires of my Will"

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At 01:35 AM 8/10/2008, you wrote:
>John, sorry to hear this. Hope you and bike can get healed up in time for
>the ride next month. I plan to be up there (from Ohio) with many of the
>usual suspects. Well, everyone except Guido Lou.
>
>Later,
>M

Well I'll be back on a bike in a couple of days (I can't afford to
drive the cage to work).
As for the bike not sure the best way to go yet.
I have full coverage on the bike and it includes my gear. But I'm not
sure if the best course of action is take it to work and meet the
insurance adjuster there with my gear or leave it here at home and
make them come to me.
Either way, I don't see un-repairable damage so I'll be getting it
fixed. If they total it however, I'll be putting it right back on the
trailer and bringing it home to save on labor.

I do have the RC registered and running, but I was not really ready
to start riding it everyday. I was not planning on taking a major
ride on that bike yet.

Whatever comes, comes, but I will say this, I have some very evil and
angry thoughts about the silver Nissan driver right now (Batteries,
spark plugs, and more).



JohnS
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"Whatever comes, comes, but I will say this, I have some very evil and
angry thoughts about the silver Nissan driver right now (Batteries,
spark plugs, and more)."

I am sorry to hear you crashed and glad you are OK. I think it is a bit
of a stretch to blame it on someone who was behind you. I know it is a
natural reaction but it seems me that if you crashed your bike due to
hard grounding of chassis parts at 20mph less than you have taken that
corner before, you where doing something wrong. I can't let a car or
bike behind me dictate how I ride. The only way they can cause me to
crash would be to run into me or make it so clear that they are going to
run into me that I have to leave the road to avoid it.

JES_VFR wrote:
> At 01:35 AM 8/10/2008, you wrote:
>
>> John, sorry to hear this. Hope you and bike can get healed up in time for
>> the ride next month. I plan to be up there (from Ohio) with many of the
>> usual suspects. Well, everyone except Guido Lou.
>>
>> Later,
>> M
>>
>
> Well I'll be back on a bike in a couple of days (I can't afford to
> drive the cage to work).
> As for the bike not sure the best way to go yet.
> I have full coverage on the bike and it includes my gear. But I'm not
> sure if the best course of action is take it to work and meet the
> insurance adjuster there with my gear or leave it here at home and
> make them come to me.
> Either way, I don't see un-repairable damage so I'll be getting it
> fixed. If they total it however, I'll be putting it right back on the
> trailer and bringing it home to save on labor.
>
> I do have the RC registered and running, but I was not really ready
> to start riding it everyday. I was not planning on taking a major
> ride on that bike yet.
>
> Whatever comes, comes, but I will say this, I have some very evil and
> angry thoughts about the silver Nissan driver right now (Batteries,
> spark plugs, and more).
>
>
>
> JohnS
> A Dragon Ascending
> "Forging my body in the Fires of my Will"
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On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 10:20 PM, JES_VFR wrote a
bunch of stuff about a high-side with four or five bouncing
cartwheels,

Glad you're okay.

JohnA in LA, CA USA
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Damn John, sorry to hear of your fall. Glad you are mostly ok but hate to hear that something like this happened to you. At least you were not going 55 this time!

How did the closing Nissan play into the fall and how did you touch down pegs at 35 on a sweeper that you normally take at 55+? I'd be inclined to look for spilled anti-freeze or some other cause for the fall.

Again, glad to hear that you are largely ok.

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Thanks guys for all the replies.

I also want to thank everybody that send comments about the
circumstances of the crash.
To be 100% honest, I caused the wreck.
I'm still not completely sure how I managed to stack it all up that
badly, nor am I 100% on exactly what was the final trigger, but I can
tell you this.
I have learned my lesson about how much you give up when you try to
'just back off and take it easy'.

If I had ridden through that corner like I did the nine times a week,
the whole thing would not have happened (and I would not be sitting
here trying to put the pieces of the puzzle together).

I do appreciate everyone's comments, since like any combat pilot, I'm
going to review this crash to death and then some.

But right now, I think it is time for another pause to try and catch up.
Maybe in a little while the rain will stop and then I'll go have a
third look at the bike.

PS. I don't know that my attending WDGAH is out or not yet, its just
everything is in the air right now.

JohnS
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In a message dated 8/10/08 7:09:16 AM, jes_vfr@xxxxxx writes:


> Whatever comes, comes, but I will say this, I have some very evil and
> angry thoughts about the silver Nissan driver right now (Batteries,
> spark plugs, and more).
>
Did they nudge you or something? Your post didn't mention it...

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Glad to hear you're alive. A woman right up the street low-sided going
around the on-ramp )another nice cloverleaf to the highway) and slid
underneath a car. She didn't make it.

I hit a decent sized dip going around a curve and onto a bridge and
caught a little air, handlebars crossed up and I high-sided over the
handlebars. Bike cartwheeled and I skidded along. I was going probably
45-50mph. I fractured my wrist and ankle, and sprained/pulled a muscle
in my back. I wasn't wearing a jacket so I got some road rash on my
shoulders and arms. The road rash has pretty much healed. My fractures
are still healing. And I've got almost all the parts necessary to repair
the bike. Liability only on my '86. I remember sliding on my right side
thinking I need to roll over or this will be really bad. so I rolled
over got flung onto my head and shoulders and say the bike fly by me as
I skidded down the road. I was thinking. "Wow, I'm going pretty fast, my
helmet makes a weird sound scraping on the pavement, I hope I stop
soon." . so surreal. 2-3 days later the back started to REALLY hurt and
made life really uncomfortable. I'm a LOT better now (accident 7-15) my
back still is sore and my ankle and wrist are still cracked.. I should
have the bike all repaired by the time I am ready to ride it. The lesson
I learned was "WEAR your jacket" the fractures and back pain would still
have occurred but the rash wouldn't have aggravated things so much.

Damon
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vfr-bounces@xxxxxx [mailto:vfr-bounces@xxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> JES_VFR
> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 12:21 AM
> To: vfrlist; Jeff Foley; William O'Brien JR.
> Subject: I went down, No I'm not kidding.
>
> time 5:20 this afternoon.
> location a 270+ degree right hand ramp that is slightly bowl shaped
> and I regularly take it at more than 55 (touching down peg feelers
> and boot toe sliders in various spots)
> speed when it all went wrong - 35 mph.
> extenuating conditions - Silver Nissan sedan closing rapidly on my tail.
>
>
>
>
> JohnS
> A Dragon Ascending
> "Forging my body in the Fires of my Will"
>
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I don't mean to pick on anybody, but WHO goes out without full gear on
this list?
ATGATT. Jacket, gloves, pants with armour. The whole nine yards.

Come on people, let's set the example!
Please!

JohnA in LA, CA USA

On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 6:38 PM, Damon Hopkins wrote:
> Glad to hear you're alive. A woman right up the street low-sided going
> around the on-ramp )another nice cloverleaf to the highway) and slid
> underneath a car. She didn't make it.
>
> I hit a decent sized dip going around a curve and onto a bridge and
> caught a little air, handlebars crossed up and I high-sided over the
> handlebars. Bike cartwheeled and I skidded along. I was going probably
> 45-50mph. I fractured my wrist and ankle, and sprained/pulled a muscle
> in my back. I wasn't wearing a jacket so I got some road rash on my
> shoulders and arms. The road rash has pretty much healed. My fractures
> are still healing. And I've got almost all the parts necessary to repair
> the bike. Liability only on my '86. I remember sliding on my right side
> thinking I need to roll over or this will be really bad. so I rolled
> over got flung onto my head and shoulders and say the bike fly by me as
> I skidded down the road. I was thinking. "Wow, I'm going pretty fast, my
> helmet makes a weird sound scraping on the pavement, I hope I stop
> soon." . so surreal. 2-3 days later the back started to REALLY hurt and
> made life really uncomfortable. I'm a LOT better now (accident 7-15) my
> back still is sore and my ankle and wrist are still cracked.. I should
> have the bike all repaired by the time I am ready to ride it. The lesson
> I learned was "WEAR your jacket" the fractures and back pain would still
> have occurred but the rash wouldn't have aggravated things so much.
>
> Damon
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: vfr-bounces@xxxxxx [mailto:vfr-bounces@xxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>> JES_VFR
>> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 12:21 AM
>> To: vfrlist; Jeff Foley; William O'Brien JR.
>> Subject: I went down, No I'm not kidding.
>>
>> time 5:20 this afternoon.
>> location a 270+ degree right hand ramp that is slightly bowl shaped
>> and I regularly take it at more than 55 (touching down peg feelers
>> and boot toe sliders in various spots)
>> speed when it all went wrong - 35 mph.
>> extenuating conditions - Silver Nissan sedan closing rapidly on my tail.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> JohnS
>> A Dragon Ascending
>> "Forging my body in the Fires of my Will"
>>
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Like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbrQ2wKhIRs

SFW.

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I do every ride! Rain, shine, hot, or cold! Back protector as well!


Denny

-----Original Message-----
From: vfr-bounces@xxxxxx [mailto:vfr-bounces@xxxxxx] On Behalf Of
John Alexander
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 12:13 AM
Cc: vfr@xxxxxx
Subject: Re: I went down, No I'm not kidding.

I don't mean to pick on anybody, but WHO goes out without full gear on
this list?
ATGATT. Jacket, gloves, pants with armour. The whole nine yards.

Come on people, let's set the example!
Please!

JohnA in LA, CA USA

On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 6:38 PM, Damon Hopkins
wrote:
> Glad to hear you're alive. A woman right up the street low-sided going
> around the on-ramp )another nice cloverleaf to the highway) and slid
> underneath a car. She didn't make it.
>
> I hit a decent sized dip going around a curve and onto a bridge and
> caught a little air, handlebars crossed up and I high-sided over the
> handlebars. Bike cartwheeled and I skidded along. I was going probably
> 45-50mph. I fractured my wrist and ankle, and sprained/pulled a muscle
> in my back. I wasn't wearing a jacket so I got some road rash on my
> shoulders and arms. The road rash has pretty much healed. My fractures
> are still healing. And I've got almost all the parts necessary to repair
> the bike. Liability only on my '86. I remember sliding on my right side
> thinking I need to roll over or this will be really bad. so I rolled
> over got flung onto my head and shoulders and say the bike fly by me as
> I skidded down the road. I was thinking. "Wow, I'm going pretty fast, my
> helmet makes a weird sound scraping on the pavement, I hope I stop
> soon." . so surreal. 2-3 days later the back started to REALLY hurt and
> made life really uncomfortable. I'm a LOT better now (accident 7-15) my
> back still is sore and my ankle and wrist are still cracked.. I should
> have the bike all repaired by the time I am ready to ride it. The lesson
> I learned was "WEAR your jacket" the fractures and back pain would still
> have occurred but the rash wouldn't have aggravated things so much.
>
> Damon
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: vfr-bounces@xxxxxx [mailto:vfr-bounces@xxxxxx] On Behalf
Of
>> JES_VFR
>> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 12:21 AM
>> To: vfrlist; Jeff Foley; William O'Brien JR.
>> Subject: I went down, No I'm not kidding.
>>
>> time 5:20 this afternoon.
>> location a 270+ degree right hand ramp that is slightly bowl shaped
>> and I regularly take it at more than 55 (touching down peg feelers
>> and boot toe sliders in various spots)
>> speed when it all went wrong - 35 mph.
>> extenuating conditions - Silver Nissan sedan closing rapidly on my tail.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> JohnS
>> A Dragon Ascending
>> "Forging my body in the Fires of my Will"
>>
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For those of you talking about fixing bikes that have
cart-wheeled.... If after adding up the cost of all the parts it
doesn't come to a total then I suggest you have the bike measured
by the local computrack provider to make sure it's straight.

Here's the deal, contrary to popular thought aluminum framed MC's
are not STIFF in all directions. They're stiff where they need
to be to handle proper loading during riding conditions. They
don't handle being cart-wheeled and they will often twist the
headstock or tubes/trees just by being knocked over hard on the
bar-end.

IOW if you want to buy the bits and put it back to good-looking
go ahead but there's a good chance that something will be twisted
in the chassis. Many insurance companies are now starting to
accept computrack as one of the expenses for fixing a bike. Get
it measured and if after all the price still doesn't = total get
it made straightened.


Kevin Glick--kglick@xxxxxx(The Isle O'Manhattan--NYC)
LRRS/CCS EXPERT# 56///US Marshals Risk And Track Safety
Management
Crew 94' EX500(Race)//98' VFR800Fi (Sequoia)// "Keep Thine Eye
On
The Tach And Thine Ear On The Engine Lest Thy Whirlybits
Seek Communion With The Sun" John 4:50



> -----Original Message-----
> From: vfr-bounces@xxxxxx [mailto:vfr-bounces@xxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Steve 566
> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 4:02 AM
> To: Steve Spider Enfield
> Cc: vfr@xxxxxx
> Subject: Re: I went down, No I'm not kidding.
>
> Good to hear that you're mostly ok. You will be hurting for
> the next few days.
>
> Here is an interesting read. The dirt is just as dangerous as
> the pavement.
>
> BTW, this happens to be one of my best friends.
>
> http://www.race-dezert.com/forum/showthread.php?t=47373
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 11:30 PM, Steve Spider Enfield
> wrote:
> > Very sorry to hear that mate.
> > But the usual, at least you are okay, bit.
> > That is the really good bit.
> > Been there, binned that but still able to come back and ride
> again.
> > Hope you are insured, takes some pain out.
> > Take care mate.
> > Best wishes,
> > Spied
> > *****************************************
> > Steve "Spider" Enfield
> > 87 VFR 750
> > Sydney, Australia
> > www.ozvfr.net
> > :-)
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "JES_VFR"
> > To: "vfrlist" ; "Jeff Foley"
> ;
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> > Subject: I went down, No I'm not kidding.
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> >> time 5:20 this afternoon.
> >> location a 270+ degree right hand ramp that is slightly bowl
> shaped
> >> and I regularly take it at more than 55 (touching down peg
> feelers
> >> and boot toe sliders in various spots)
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John,
*
Glad to hear you're not too banged up.* Always good to take an honest review of the situation and make changes in style, approach, attitude according to what you find.* I guess that's why I do let it out more on trackdays than on the street--works for me.
*
Your one pic from the rear looks as if your swingarm is out of line with the centerline of the bike.* It may be your rear subframe is out of line...hopefully the swingarm and frame are still a pair...
*
If not, definitely go to a frame straightening specialist -- we should have a couple in the VA, MD area because of the racers in the area...definitely take the fork tubes out and make sure they are straight first--easiest thing to do.** I'm pretty sure you know all this, I'm just thinking out loud...
*
Get well/unsore and put the RC to good use!* See if someone will let you borrow a pair of helibars or something for a couple months...probably need a pair fitted for hte RC though...
*
Take care,
*
Matt Roth

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Good advice - if you're thinking about keeping the bike and fixing it, have the frame looked at first, and get an idea on how much it will cost to get it back in line. By the sound of it, it will need some work.

Rudy Fierros
'95 VFR750 - Twobros xmetal slipon, reworked suspension by Lindemann, Factory jet kit, Zero gravity DB, Sargent seat - just turned over 105K miles 03/15/2008.

'71 Chevy stepside - Porsche guards red, lowered 4" rear, 3" front - cool cruiser.


--- On Tue, 8/12/08, Matthew Roth wrote:

> From: Matthew Roth
> Subject: RE: I went down, No I'm not kidding.
> To: "vfr"
> Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 10:48 AM
> John,
> *
> Glad to hear you're not too banged up.* Always good to
> take an honest review of the situation and make changes in
> style, approach, attitude according to what you find.* I
> guess that's why I do let it out more on trackdays than
> on the street--works for me.
> *
> Your one pic from the rear looks as if your swingarm is out
> of line with the centerline of the bike.* It may be your
> rear subframe is out of line...hopefully the swingarm and
> frame are still a pair...
> *
> If not, definitely go to a frame straightening specialist
> -- we should have a couple in the VA, MD area because of the
> racers in the area...definitely take the fork tubes out and
> make sure they are straight first--easiest thing to do.**
> I'm pretty sure you know all this, I'm just thinking
> out loud...
> *
> Get well/unsore and put the RC to good use!* See if
> someone will let you borrow a pair of helibars or something
> for a couple months...probably need a pair fitted for hte RC
> though...
> *
> Take care,
> *
> Matt Roth
>
> Matt
>
>
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