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Initial thoughts on Conti Road-Attack Tires - long but a good readfor tire shoppers
The Setup:
It was finally time for a third set of replacement tires on my 2000 VFR800 last month. I've worn out two pairs of Michelin Pilot Sport tires after the original Dunlop D204K tires. Each rear tire has lasted about 6000 to 6250 miles and I always change the front at the same time to avoid excessive cupping even though there is still plenty of tread left on them usually. I guess I'd say I am a mildly aggressive rider - the kind that likes full throttle corner exit and wearing the edges of the tire when the road allows. I'm not a smoky-burnout-hole-shot-from-every-light kind of hooligan rider. I like to connect complex curves in roads with rhythm and speed. I ride two-up about 1/8th of the time. Switching up: I was hoping to continue riding on the Pilot Sport since I had really good luck with that tire, but Michelin discontinued that tire and now produces the Pilot Power instead. I didn't feel I needed super sport tire at this point - I don't track the VFR and I really can't/don't take advantage of all the performance of a super-sport tire - even on spirited rides thru the S.E. PA. On the other hand, I didn't feel like the Pilot Road was a sporty enough tire for me. So, I was in tire shopping mode again.... I looked at all the sport touring tires out there including the popular Bridgestone combo VFR-listers rave about. I ran across the Conti's and read their PR babble and figured I'd give their Road-Attack tire a look-see. They have a Sport-Attack tire which is more sticky, but I want to get some more mileage out of this set of tires. I contacted a Conti PR/sales guy in the US and asked him to describe how he sees the Road-Attack and Sport-Attack tires comparing to the Michelin line-up. Conti guy reply: << Stephan, I have attached detailed information on our Road Attack for your review. Our new Sport Attack is comparable to Michelin's Pilot Power and if your not going to take your bike to track day sessions I would seriously consider our Road Attack which will sacrifice some grip in exchange for longevity. Compared to Michelin's offerings the Road Attack falls in between the Pilot Sport and Pilot Road in terms of performance, but leans more toward the Pilot Sport. Long story short Suzuki tested and approved via German homologation our Road Attack for use on the GSX-R1000, thus it has very high levels of grip however will also offer longevity. For a good tire review that gives a comparison of the Road Attack to our competitors please check out www.canyonchasers.net where you can read their latest test review. I hope this information helps. Safe Riding & Best Regards, Greg Reich Continental Tire North America, Inc. Two Wheel Tires Sales Manager/Motorcycle Tires << If your interested in the detailed PR info for the tires (MSWord format), contact me and I can email them to you. BTW, BMW has selected this tire for the R1200RT as well. Lacing up the new shoes: Compared with the Pilot sport, the Conti's had stiffer sidewalls and the rear tire was a good bit heavier - more than the difference in weight of a worn tire vs. a new tire - the carcass of the Conti Road-Attack rear tire is heavier. This concerned me a little as did the 1 1/4 oz of weight we had to use to balance it - we double and triple checked the balance. If it matters to you, the Conti's have a cool checkered flag sidewall decoration and a neat looking tread pattern. Anyway, when I got the tires back on the bike, it just so happened to be a near 60 degree day here in Northern Delaware in January (go figure)... So off I went for a shake-down ride to scuff the tires up a bit... Miles of Smiles: I now have over 200 miles on these tires (in January no less !) and I must say I am impressed. The heavier carcass of the rear tire probably slows down my 1/4 mile time (which isn't really important for me), but it helps dampen road inputs better than the Pilot Sports. Intuitively, I would think that the increased unsprung tire weight would make the rear tire skip a little more over bumps, but the reality is both the front and rear Conti's have a lot of enveloping power (ability to soak up sharp impacts) and are in general more communicative than the Pilots were for street riding. The increased enveloping power means that the tire can absorb more of the sharp impacts than the suspension which means the tire spends more time hooked up than skipping over little bumps/seams. The Conti's also have a much more neutral feeling in that they require less handle bar pressure to initiate and maintain lean angle through turns. I had to re-calibrate my press-and-roll coordination because the VFR turns in more easily now... The Pilot Sports would sort of 'stand up' the bike so-to-speak while the Conti's allow you to transition from turn to turn quickly with less effort. The perception I get is that it takes less lean angle and effort to corner with the Conti's than it did with the Pilot Sports. Don't get me wrong here... The Pilot Sport is an awesome tire and if they were still in production, I probably would have bought another set just because I liked them so much, but in a way I am glad that I had to try something different. The Conti Road-Attack is a newer tire design with (IMHO) a better feel on the VFR. It might not be a supersport semi-race tire, but that's not what I need. If that's your bag, you might try the Sport-Attack which has a stickier compound. Only the miles will tell how the tires perform throughout the seasons... LINKS: Fugi's Factory. Small shop with personal service in northern Delaware. He has a great tire mount/balance setup. Coats no-mar mounter and a snap-on digital balancer. $20 per loose wheel or $35 per wheel if you drop the bike off. http://www.fugisfactory.com/ Conti Motorcycle Tires. http://www.conti-online.com/generato.../index_en.html Have a nice snowy day in the northeast ! -Stephan, 2000 VFR800 _______________________________________________ Vfr mailing list Vfr@xxxxxx For subscription and delivery options: https://lists.cs.wisc.edu/mailman/listinfo/vfr |
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Re: Initial thoughts on Conti Road-Attack Tires - long but a goodread for tire shoppers
On 2/11/06, stephanon2whls
> > > Fugi's Factory. Small shop with personal service in northern > Delaware. He > has a great tire mount/balance setup. Coats no-mar mounter and a snap-on > digital balancer. $20 per loose wheel or $35 per wheel if you drop the > bike > off. > http://www.fugisfactory.com/ > > Conti Motorcycle Tires. > > http://www.conti-online.com/generato.../index_en.html Nice and very complete writei-up Sephon. Thanks for taking the time. Just put a Dunlop 218 on the front of the VFR today. D220 is on the rear. Will take it for a 300 mile ride tomorrow to Solvang for lunch to see how I like it. John in Calif _______________________________________________ Vfr mailing list Vfr@xxxxxx For subscription and delivery options: https://lists.cs.wisc.edu/mailman/listinfo/vfr |
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