Re: Fw: Fw: CL 14 Helmet

This is just wrong on too many fronts...

Do you know what thickness each skin is? Or what the composites are made of (Polycarbonate vs. Fiberglass composites). Without this info, you can't possible assert that the shell on the CL is inferior to the AC. How about the different shape, and the inner shells? Or the different applications based on type of accident.

Besides which, it's almost certainly moot. The value of the shell is not necessarily strength, but it's ability to disperse energy, and I can't answer which material and application is better. No one can until they are tested. And right now, the standards for testing in this country are DOT and SNELL. Both helmets pass.

The topper, of course, is that it's highly likely that both these materials fail at an energy level WAY higher than the human brain would survive.

Dan B


-----Original Message-----
>From: Jason Mellen
>Sent: Apr 3, 2006 6:09 PM
>To: VFR mailing list
>Subject: Fw: Fw: CL 14 Helmet
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>Plastic is not as strong as fibreglass. Fibreglass is reinforced plastic.
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>I'm sure it's a fine helmet, but there's a reason plastic helmets are cheap.
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Dan Barufaldi"
>To: "Jason Mellen" ; "VFR mailing list"
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>Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 6:04 PM
>Subject: Re: Fw: CL 14 Helmet
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>> And?
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>> It's Snell 2000 and DOT 218 rated. If your point is about weight, I can
>tell you that I also bought the AC-11 Zeek which has a fiberglass composite
>shell. They're almost indiscernible in terms of weight, with the AC-11
>feeling actually a tad heavier on the bicep scale.
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>> Not sure what the complaint is with a plastic shell.
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>> Dan B
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> >From: Jason Mellen
>> >Sent: Apr 3, 2006 5:57 PM
>> >To: VFR mailing list
>> >Subject: Fw: CL 14 Helmet
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>> >Looks like a good price, but it is a plastic helmet.
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>> >Jay
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>> >> Don't know if anyone here wears an XL or XXL helmet, but if you do,
>this
>> >is a GREAT deal on an excellent helmet.
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>> >> Dan B
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--- Dan Barufaldi wrote:
> Besides which, it's almost certainly moot. The
> value of the shell is not necessarily strength, but
> it's ability to disperse energy, and I can't answer
> which material and application is better. No one
> can until they are tested. And right now, the
> standards for testing in this country are DOT and
> SNELL. Both helmets pass.
>
> The topper, of course, is that it's highly likely
> that both these materials fail at an energy level
> WAY higher than the human brain would survive.



Probably old news to this list, but here's some
additional, third-party data points for ya.

FWIW, I will still wear expensive Arais (or maybe a
Shoei, if it fits). But, it is good food for thought.
And I'm sure the magazine lost some ad revenue due to
this article, so it's definitely not pandering to any
high-priced manufacturer.

Warren

Passion is the difference between living and existing
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In a message dated 4/3/2006 6:08:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
jmellen@xxxxxx writes:

but there's a reason plastic helmets are cheap.

Cause they cost less?



Micky Curry
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within limitations of course.

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