Re: Poor Electrical Connection

Wednesday, April 5, 2006, 2:44:30 PM, you wrote:
> On the list, Bob I believe, wrote..........

> ".......There is a very short wire (about 2" or less) between the main fuse
> and a
> connector which goes to the rest of the harness. This short wire is a 14
> guage wire with a 30 amp fuse sitting there........The fix we have
> been doing is to cut the wire right before the connector on the harness side
> of the connector. Then splice in with a good barrel connector and put
> shrink wrap around it. On the other side of the barrel connector is a
> 12guage wire that leads to an inline fuse holder which holdes the 30amp
> fuse. Then on the other side of the fuse holder it goes straight to the
> battery. The idea is you are removing that un needed connector and
> increasing the guage of the wire for such an important connection where
> 14guage is a marginal size wire."

> I have the '02 VTEC so am very interested in this problem, but, it sounds
> like you're replacing one connector for another (the barrel connector)
> albeit with heavier guage wire. Maybe I've misunderstodd the
> explanantion.............any chance of a quick diagram to show what is being
> removed and replaced?

> Many Thanks

> Les.

That was not me, Chris I beleive. But I will chime in since I have a
theory about spring metal connectors. I am sure this is not the proper
term but I refer to the male blade terminal that slides into a spring
metal female connector. My theory is that the spring metal does not
hold with enough tension to prevent vibration induce arcing. The
arching builds up oxide deposits that may not be obvious but enough to
increase resistance. I am not sure what he means by barrel connectors
but I use the screw together type as they produce a very tight solid
connection that can be quickly disconnecteded. The other type of
"barrel" I know about is the crimp type butt connector which is also
a tighter connevtion if properly crimped but not rte-usable.

Bob

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Wednesday, April 5, 2006, 2:44:30 PM, you wrote:
> On the list, Bob I believe, wrote..........

> ".......There is a very short wire (about 2" or less) between the main fuse
> and a
> connector which goes to the rest of the harness. This short wire is a 14
> guage wire with a 30 amp fuse sitting there........The fix we have
> been doing is to cut the wire right before the connector on the harness side
> of the connector. Then splice in with a good barrel connector and put
> shrink wrap around it. On the other side of the barrel connector is a
> 12guage wire that leads to an inline fuse holder which holdes the 30amp
> fuse. Then on the other side of the fuse holder it goes straight to the
> battery. The idea is you are removing that un needed connector and
> increasing the guage of the wire for such an important connection where
> 14guage is a marginal size wire."

> I have the '02 VTEC so am very interested in this problem, but, it sounds
> like you're replacing one connector for another (the barrel connector)
> albeit with heavier guage wire. Maybe I've misunderstodd the
> explanantion.............any chance of a quick diagram to show what is being
> removed and replaced?

> Many Thanks

> Les.

That was not me, Chris I beleive. But I will chime in since I have a
theory about spring metal connectors. I am sure this is not the proper
term but I refer to the male blade terminal that slides into a spring
metal female connector. My theory is that the spring metal does not
hold with enough tension to prevent vibration induce arcing. The
arching builds up oxide deposits that may not be obvious but enough to
increase resistance. I am not sure what he means by barrel connectors
but I use the screw together type as they produce a very tight solid
connection that can be quickly disconnecteded. The other type of
"barrel" I know about is the crimp type butt connector which is also
a tighter connevtion if properly crimped but not rte-usable.

Bob

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Wednesday, April 5, 2006, 2:44:30 PM, you wrote:
> On the list, Bob I believe, wrote..........

> ".......There is a very short wire (about 2" or less) between the main fuse
> and a
> connector which goes to the rest of the harness. This short wire is a 14
> guage wire with a 30 amp fuse sitting there........The fix we have
> been doing is to cut the wire right before the connector on the harness side
> of the connector. Then splice in with a good barrel connector and put
> shrink wrap around it. On the other side of the barrel connector is a
> 12guage wire that leads to an inline fuse holder which holdes the 30amp
> fuse. Then on the other side of the fuse holder it goes straight to the
> battery. The idea is you are removing that un needed connector and
> increasing the guage of the wire for such an important connection where
> 14guage is a marginal size wire."

> I have the '02 VTEC so am very interested in this problem, but, it sounds
> like you're replacing one connector for another (the barrel connector)
> albeit with heavier guage wire. Maybe I've misunderstodd the
> explanantion.............any chance of a quick diagram to show what is being
> removed and replaced?

> Many Thanks

> Les.

That was not me, Chris I beleive. But I will chime in since I have a
theory about spring metal connectors. I am sure this is not the proper
term but I refer to the male blade terminal that slides into a spring
metal female connector. My theory is that the spring metal does not
hold with enough tension to prevent vibration induce arcing. The
arching builds up oxide deposits that may not be obvious but enough to
increase resistance. I am not sure what he means by barrel connectors
but I use the screw together type as they produce a very tight solid
connection that can be quickly disconnecteded. The other type of
"barrel" I know about is the crimp type butt connector which is also
a tighter connevtion if properly crimped but not rte-usable.

Bob

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Wednesday, April 5, 2006, 2:44:30 PM, you wrote:
> On the list, Bob I believe, wrote..........

> ".......There is a very short wire (about 2" or less) between the main fuse
> and a
> connector which goes to the rest of the harness. This short wire is a 14
> guage wire with a 30 amp fuse sitting there........The fix we have
> been doing is to cut the wire right before the connector on the harness side
> of the connector. Then splice in with a good barrel connector and put
> shrink wrap around it. On the other side of the barrel connector is a
> 12guage wire that leads to an inline fuse holder which holdes the 30amp
> fuse. Then on the other side of the fuse holder it goes straight to the
> battery. The idea is you are removing that un needed connector and
> increasing the guage of the wire for such an important connection where
> 14guage is a marginal size wire."

> I have the '02 VTEC so am very interested in this problem, but, it sounds
> like you're replacing one connector for another (the barrel connector)
> albeit with heavier guage wire. Maybe I've misunderstodd the
> explanantion.............any chance of a quick diagram to show what is being
> removed and replaced?

> Many Thanks

> Les.

That was not me, Chris I beleive. But I will chime in since I have a
theory about spring metal connectors. I am sure this is not the proper
term but I refer to the male blade terminal that slides into a spring
metal female connector. My theory is that the spring metal does not
hold with enough tension to prevent vibration induce arcing. The
arching builds up oxide deposits that may not be obvious but enough to
increase resistance. I am not sure what he means by barrel connectors
but I use the screw together type as they produce a very tight solid
connection that can be quickly disconnecteded. The other type of
"barrel" I know about is the crimp type butt connector which is also
a tighter connevtion if properly crimped but not rte-usable.

Bob

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Wednesday, April 5, 2006, 2:44:30 PM, you wrote:
> On the list, Bob I believe, wrote..........

> ".......There is a very short wire (about 2" or less) between the main fuse
> and a
> connector which goes to the rest of the harness. This short wire is a 14
> guage wire with a 30 amp fuse sitting there........The fix we have
> been doing is to cut the wire right before the connector on the harness side
> of the connector. Then splice in with a good barrel connector and put
> shrink wrap around it. On the other side of the barrel connector is a
> 12guage wire that leads to an inline fuse holder which holdes the 30amp
> fuse. Then on the other side of the fuse holder it goes straight to the
> battery. The idea is you are removing that un needed connector and
> increasing the guage of the wire for such an important connection where
> 14guage is a marginal size wire."

> I have the '02 VTEC so am very interested in this problem, but, it sounds
> like you're replacing one connector for another (the barrel connector)
> albeit with heavier guage wire. Maybe I've misunderstodd the
> explanantion.............any chance of a quick diagram to show what is being
> removed and replaced?

> Many Thanks

> Les.

That was not me, Chris I beleive. But I will chime in since I have a
theory about spring metal connectors. I am sure this is not the proper
term but I refer to the male blade terminal that slides into a spring
metal female connector. My theory is that the spring metal does not
hold with enough tension to prevent vibration induce arcing. The
arching builds up oxide deposits that may not be obvious but enough to
increase resistance. I am not sure what he means by barrel connectors
but I use the screw together type as they produce a very tight solid
connection that can be quickly disconnecteded. The other type of
"barrel" I know about is the crimp type butt connector which is also
a tighter connevtion if properly crimped but not rte-usable.

Bob

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Wednesday, April 5, 2006, 2:44:30 PM, you wrote:
> On the list, Bob I believe, wrote..........

> ".......There is a very short wire (about 2" or less) between the main fuse
> and a
> connector which goes to the rest of the harness. This short wire is a 14
> guage wire with a 30 amp fuse sitting there........The fix we have
> been doing is to cut the wire right before the connector on the harness side
> of the connector. Then splice in with a good barrel connector and put
> shrink wrap around it. On the other side of the barrel connector is a
> 12guage wire that leads to an inline fuse holder which holdes the 30amp
> fuse. Then on the other side of the fuse holder it goes straight to the
> battery. The idea is you are removing that un needed connector and
> increasing the guage of the wire for such an important connection where
> 14guage is a marginal size wire."

> I have the '02 VTEC so am very interested in this problem, but, it sounds
> like you're replacing one connector for another (the barrel connector)
> albeit with heavier guage wire. Maybe I've misunderstodd the
> explanantion.............any chance of a quick diagram to show what is being
> removed and replaced?

> Many Thanks

> Les.

That was not me, Chris I beleive. But I will chime in since I have a
theory about spring metal connectors. I am sure this is not the proper
term but I refer to the male blade terminal that slides into a spring
metal female connector. My theory is that the spring metal does not
hold with enough tension to prevent vibration induce arcing. The
arching builds up oxide deposits that may not be obvious but enough to
increase resistance. I am not sure what he means by barrel connectors
but I use the screw together type as they produce a very tight solid
connection that can be quickly disconnecteded. The other type of
"barrel" I know about is the crimp type butt connector which is also
a tighter connevtion if properly crimped but not rte-usable.

Bob

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Wednesday, April 5, 2006, 2:44:30 PM, you wrote:
> On the list, Bob I believe, wrote..........

> ".......There is a very short wire (about 2" or less) between the main fuse
> and a
> connector which goes to the rest of the harness. This short wire is a 14
> guage wire with a 30 amp fuse sitting there........The fix we have
> been doing is to cut the wire right before the connector on the harness side
> of the connector. Then splice in with a good barrel connector and put
> shrink wrap around it. On the other side of the barrel connector is a
> 12guage wire that leads to an inline fuse holder which holdes the 30amp
> fuse. Then on the other side of the fuse holder it goes straight to the
> battery. The idea is you are removing that un needed connector and
> increasing the guage of the wire for such an important connection where
> 14guage is a marginal size wire."

> I have the '02 VTEC so am very interested in this problem, but, it sounds
> like you're replacing one connector for another (the barrel connector)
> albeit with heavier guage wire. Maybe I've misunderstodd the
> explanantion.............any chance of a quick diagram to show what is being
> removed and replaced?

> Many Thanks

> Les.

That was not me, Chris I beleive. But I will chime in since I have a
theory about spring metal connectors. I am sure this is not the proper
term but I refer to the male blade terminal that slides into a spring
metal female connector. My theory is that the spring metal does not
hold with enough tension to prevent vibration induce arcing. The
arching builds up oxide deposits that may not be obvious but enough to
increase resistance. I am not sure what he means by barrel connectors
but I use the screw together type as they produce a very tight solid
connection that can be quickly disconnecteded. The other type of
"barrel" I know about is the crimp type butt connector which is also
a tighter connevtion if properly crimped but not rte-usable.

Bob

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Wednesday, April 5, 2006, 2:44:30 PM, you wrote:
> On the list, Bob I believe, wrote..........

> ".......There is a very short wire (about 2" or less) between the main fuse
> and a
> connector which goes to the rest of the harness. This short wire is a 14
> guage wire with a 30 amp fuse sitting there........The fix we have
> been doing is to cut the wire right before the connector on the harness side
> of the connector. Then splice in with a good barrel connector and put
> shrink wrap around it. On the other side of the barrel connector is a
> 12guage wire that leads to an inline fuse holder which holdes the 30amp
> fuse. Then on the other side of the fuse holder it goes straight to the
> battery. The idea is you are removing that un needed connector and
> increasing the guage of the wire for such an important connection where
> 14guage is a marginal size wire."

> I have the '02 VTEC so am very interested in this problem, but, it sounds
> like you're replacing one connector for another (the barrel connector)
> albeit with heavier guage wire. Maybe I've misunderstodd the
> explanantion.............any chance of a quick diagram to show what is being
> removed and replaced?

> Many Thanks

> Les.

That was not me, Chris I beleive. But I will chime in since I have a
theory about spring metal connectors. I am sure this is not the proper
term but I refer to the male blade terminal that slides into a spring
metal female connector. My theory is that the spring metal does not
hold with enough tension to prevent vibration induce arcing. The
arching builds up oxide deposits that may not be obvious but enough to
increase resistance. I am not sure what he means by barrel connectors
but I use the screw together type as they produce a very tight solid
connection that can be quickly disconnecteded. The other type of
"barrel" I know about is the crimp type butt connector which is also
a tighter connevtion if properly crimped but not rte-usable.

Bob

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Wednesday, April 5, 2006, 2:44:30 PM, you wrote:
> On the list, Bob I believe, wrote..........

> ".......There is a very short wire (about 2" or less) between the main fuse
> and a
> connector which goes to the rest of the harness. This short wire is a 14
> guage wire with a 30 amp fuse sitting there........The fix we have
> been doing is to cut the wire right before the connector on the harness side
> of the connector. Then splice in with a good barrel connector and put
> shrink wrap around it. On the other side of the barrel connector is a
> 12guage wire that leads to an inline fuse holder which holdes the 30amp
> fuse. Then on the other side of the fuse holder it goes straight to the
> battery. The idea is you are removing that un needed connector and
> increasing the guage of the wire for such an important connection where
> 14guage is a marginal size wire."

> I have the '02 VTEC so am very interested in this problem, but, it sounds
> like you're replacing one connector for another (the barrel connector)
> albeit with heavier guage wire. Maybe I've misunderstodd the
> explanantion.............any chance of a quick diagram to show what is being
> removed and replaced?

> Many Thanks

> Les.

That was not me, Chris I beleive. But I will chime in since I have a
theory about spring metal connectors. I am sure this is not the proper
term but I refer to the male blade terminal that slides into a spring
metal female connector. My theory is that the spring metal does not
hold with enough tension to prevent vibration induce arcing. The
arching builds up oxide deposits that may not be obvious but enough to
increase resistance. I am not sure what he means by barrel connectors
but I use the screw together type as they produce a very tight solid
connection that can be quickly disconnecteded. The other type of
"barrel" I know about is the crimp type butt connector which is also
a tighter connevtion if properly crimped but not rte-usable.

Bob

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Wednesday, April 5, 2006, 2:44:30 PM, you wrote:
> On the list, Bob I believe, wrote..........

> ".......There is a very short wire (about 2" or less) between the main fuse
> and a
> connector which goes to the rest of the harness. This short wire is a 14
> guage wire with a 30 amp fuse sitting there........The fix we have
> been doing is to cut the wire right before the connector on the harness side
> of the connector. Then splice in with a good barrel connector and put
> shrink wrap around it. On the other side of the barrel connector is a
> 12guage wire that leads to an inline fuse holder which holdes the 30amp
> fuse. Then on the other side of the fuse holder it goes straight to the
> battery. The idea is you are removing that un needed connector and
> increasing the guage of the wire for such an important connection where
> 14guage is a marginal size wire."

> I have the '02 VTEC so am very interested in this problem, but, it sounds
> like you're replacing one connector for another (the barrel connector)
> albeit with heavier guage wire. Maybe I've misunderstodd the
> explanantion.............any chance of a quick diagram to show what is being
> removed and replaced?

> Many Thanks

> Les.

That was not me, Chris I beleive. But I will chime in since I have a
theory about spring metal connectors. I am sure this is not the proper
term but I refer to the male blade terminal that slides into a spring
metal female connector. My theory is that the spring metal does not
hold with enough tension to prevent vibration induce arcing. The
arching builds up oxide deposits that may not be obvious but enough to
increase resistance. I am not sure what he means by barrel connectors
but I use the screw together type as they produce a very tight solid
connection that can be quickly disconnecteded. The other type of
"barrel" I know about is the crimp type butt connector which is also
a tighter connevtion if properly crimped but not rte-usable.

Bob

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Wednesday, April 5, 2006, 2:44:30 PM, you wrote:
> On the list, Bob I believe, wrote..........

> ".......There is a very short wire (about 2" or less) between the main fuse
> and a
> connector which goes to the rest of the harness. This short wire is a 14
> guage wire with a 30 amp fuse sitting there........The fix we have
> been doing is to cut the wire right before the connector on the harness side
> of the connector. Then splice in with a good barrel connector and put
> shrink wrap around it. On the other side of the barrel connector is a
> 12guage wire that leads to an inline fuse holder which holdes the 30amp
> fuse. Then on the other side of the fuse holder it goes straight to the
> battery. The idea is you are removing that un needed connector and
> increasing the guage of the wire for such an important connection where
> 14guage is a marginal size wire."

> I have the '02 VTEC so am very interested in this problem, but, it sounds
> like you're replacing one connector for another (the barrel connector)
> albeit with heavier guage wire. Maybe I've misunderstodd the
> explanantion.............any chance of a quick diagram to show what is being
> removed and replaced?

> Many Thanks

> Les.

That was not me, Chris I beleive. But I will chime in since I have a
theory about spring metal connectors. I am sure this is not the proper
term but I refer to the male blade terminal that slides into a spring
metal female connector. My theory is that the spring metal does not
hold with enough tension to prevent vibration induce arcing. The
arching builds up oxide deposits that may not be obvious but enough to
increase resistance. I am not sure what he means by barrel connectors
but I use the screw together type as they produce a very tight solid
connection that can be quickly disconnecteded. The other type of
"barrel" I know about is the crimp type butt connector which is also
a tighter connevtion if properly crimped but not rte-usable.

Bob

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Wednesday, April 5, 2006, 2:44:30 PM, you wrote:
> On the list, Bob I believe, wrote..........

> ".......There is a very short wire (about 2" or less) between the main fuse
> and a
> connector which goes to the rest of the harness. This short wire is a 14
> guage wire with a 30 amp fuse sitting there........The fix we have
> been doing is to cut the wire right before the connector on the harness side
> of the connector. Then splice in with a good barrel connector and put
> shrink wrap around it. On the other side of the barrel connector is a
> 12guage wire that leads to an inline fuse holder which holdes the 30amp
> fuse. Then on the other side of the fuse holder it goes straight to the
> battery. The idea is you are removing that un needed connector and
> increasing the guage of the wire for such an important connection where
> 14guage is a marginal size wire."

> I have the '02 VTEC so am very interested in this problem, but, it sounds
> like you're replacing one connector for another (the barrel connector)
> albeit with heavier guage wire. Maybe I've misunderstodd the
> explanantion.............any chance of a quick diagram to show what is being
> removed and replaced?

> Many Thanks

> Les.

That was not me, Chris I beleive. But I will chime in since I have a
theory about spring metal connectors. I am sure this is not the proper
term but I refer to the male blade terminal that slides into a spring
metal female connector. My theory is that the spring metal does not
hold with enough tension to prevent vibration induce arcing. The
arching builds up oxide deposits that may not be obvious but enough to
increase resistance. I am not sure what he means by barrel connectors
but I use the screw together type as they produce a very tight solid
connection that can be quickly disconnecteded. The other type of
"barrel" I know about is the crimp type butt connector which is also
a tighter connevtion if properly crimped but not rte-usable.

Bob

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Wednesday, April 5, 2006, 2:44:30 PM, you wrote:
> On the list, Bob I believe, wrote..........

> ".......There is a very short wire (about 2" or less) between the main fuse
> and a
> connector which goes to the rest of the harness. This short wire is a 14
> guage wire with a 30 amp fuse sitting there........The fix we have
> been doing is to cut the wire right before the connector on the harness side
> of the connector. Then splice in with a good barrel connector and put
> shrink wrap around it. On the other side of the barrel connector is a
> 12guage wire that leads to an inline fuse holder which holdes the 30amp
> fuse. Then on the other side of the fuse holder it goes straight to the
> battery. The idea is you are removing that un needed connector and
> increasing the guage of the wire for such an important connection where
> 14guage is a marginal size wire."

> I have the '02 VTEC so am very interested in this problem, but, it sounds
> like you're replacing one connector for another (the barrel connector)
> albeit with heavier guage wire. Maybe I've misunderstodd the
> explanantion.............any chance of a quick diagram to show what is being
> removed and replaced?

> Many Thanks

> Les.

That was not me, Chris I beleive. But I will chime in since I have a
theory about spring metal connectors. I am sure this is not the proper
term but I refer to the male blade terminal that slides into a spring
metal female connector. My theory is that the spring metal does not
hold with enough tension to prevent vibration induce arcing. The
arching builds up oxide deposits that may not be obvious but enough to
increase resistance. I am not sure what he means by barrel connectors
but I use the screw together type as they produce a very tight solid
connection that can be quickly disconnecteded. The other type of
"barrel" I know about is the crimp type butt connector which is also
a tighter connevtion if properly crimped but not rte-usable.

Bob

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Wednesday, April 5, 2006, 2:44:30 PM, you wrote:
> On the list, Bob I believe, wrote..........

> ".......There is a very short wire (about 2" or less) between the main fuse
> and a
> connector which goes to the rest of the harness. This short wire is a 14
> guage wire with a 30 amp fuse sitting there........The fix we have
> been doing is to cut the wire right before the connector on the harness side
> of the connector. Then splice in with a good barrel connector and put
> shrink wrap around it. On the other side of the barrel connector is a
> 12guage wire that leads to an inline fuse holder which holdes the 30amp
> fuse. Then on the other side of the fuse holder it goes straight to the
> battery. The idea is you are removing that un needed connector and
> increasing the guage of the wire for such an important connection where
> 14guage is a marginal size wire."

> I have the '02 VTEC so am very interested in this problem, but, it sounds
> like you're replacing one connector for another (the barrel connector)
> albeit with heavier guage wire. Maybe I've misunderstodd the
> explanantion.............any chance of a quick diagram to show what is being
> removed and replaced?

> Many Thanks

> Les.

That was not me, Chris I beleive. But I will chime in since I have a
theory about spring metal connectors. I am sure this is not the proper
term but I refer to the male blade terminal that slides into a spring
metal female connector. My theory is that the spring metal does not
hold with enough tension to prevent vibration induce arcing. The
arching builds up oxide deposits that may not be obvious but enough to
increase resistance. I am not sure what he means by barrel connectors
but I use the screw together type as they produce a very tight solid
connection that can be quickly disconnecteded. The other type of
"barrel" I know about is the crimp type butt connector which is also
a tighter connevtion if properly crimped but not rte-usable.

Bob

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Wednesday, April 5, 2006, 2:44:30 PM, you wrote:
> On the list, Bob I believe, wrote..........

> ".......There is a very short wire (about 2" or less) between the main fuse
> and a
> connector which goes to the rest of the harness. This short wire is a 14
> guage wire with a 30 amp fuse sitting there........The fix we have
> been doing is to cut the wire right before the connector on the harness side
> of the connector. Then splice in with a good barrel connector and put
> shrink wrap around it. On the other side of the barrel connector is a
> 12guage wire that leads to an inline fuse holder which holdes the 30amp
> fuse. Then on the other side of the fuse holder it goes straight to the
> battery. The idea is you are removing that un needed connector and
> increasing the guage of the wire for such an important connection where
> 14guage is a marginal size wire."

> I have the '02 VTEC so am very interested in this problem, but, it sounds
> like you're replacing one connector for another (the barrel connector)
> albeit with heavier guage wire. Maybe I've misunderstodd the
> explanantion.............any chance of a quick diagram to show what is being
> removed and replaced?

> Many Thanks

> Les.

That was not me, Chris I beleive. But I will chime in since I have a
theory about spring metal connectors. I am sure this is not the proper
term but I refer to the male blade terminal that slides into a spring
metal female connector. My theory is that the spring metal does not
hold with enough tension to prevent vibration induce arcing. The
arching builds up oxide deposits that may not be obvious but enough to
increase resistance. I am not sure what he means by barrel connectors
but I use the screw together type as they produce a very tight solid
connection that can be quickly disconnecteded. The other type of
"barrel" I know about is the crimp type butt connector which is also
a tighter connevtion if properly crimped but not rte-usable.

Bob

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Wednesday, April 5, 2006, 2:44:30 PM, you wrote:
> On the list, Bob I believe, wrote..........

> ".......There is a very short wire (about 2" or less) between the main fuse
> and a
> connector which goes to the rest of the harness. This short wire is a 14
> guage wire with a 30 amp fuse sitting there........The fix we have
> been doing is to cut the wire right before the connector on the harness side
> of the connector. Then splice in with a good barrel connector and put
> shrink wrap around it. On the other side of the barrel connector is a
> 12guage wire that leads to an inline fuse holder which holdes the 30amp
> fuse. Then on the other side of the fuse holder it goes straight to the
> battery. The idea is you are removing that un needed connector and
> increasing the guage of the wire for such an important connection where
> 14guage is a marginal size wire."

> I have the '02 VTEC so am very interested in this problem, but, it sounds
> like you're replacing one connector for another (the barrel connector)
> albeit with heavier guage wire. Maybe I've misunderstodd the
> explanantion.............any chance of a quick diagram to show what is being
> removed and replaced?

> Many Thanks

> Les.

That was not me, Chris I beleive. But I will chime in since I have a
theory about spring metal connectors. I am sure this is not the proper
term but I refer to the male blade terminal that slides into a spring
metal female connector. My theory is that the spring metal does not
hold with enough tension to prevent vibration induce arcing. The
arching builds up oxide deposits that may not be obvious but enough to
increase resistance. I am not sure what he means by barrel connectors
but I use the screw together type as they produce a very tight solid
connection that can be quickly disconnecteded. The other type of
"barrel" I know about is the crimp type butt connector which is also
a tighter connevtion if properly crimped but not rte-usable.

Bob

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Wednesday, April 5, 2006, 2:44:30 PM, you wrote:
> On the list, Bob I believe, wrote..........

> ".......There is a very short wire (about 2" or less) between the main fuse
> and a
> connector which goes to the rest of the harness. This short wire is a 14
> guage wire with a 30 amp fuse sitting there........The fix we have
> been doing is to cut the wire right before the connector on the harness side
> of the connector. Then splice in with a good barrel connector and put
> shrink wrap around it. On the other side of the barrel connector is a
> 12guage wire that leads to an inline fuse holder which holdes the 30amp
> fuse. Then on the other side of the fuse holder it goes straight to the
> battery. The idea is you are removing that un needed connector and
> increasing the guage of the wire for such an important connection where
> 14guage is a marginal size wire."

> I have the '02 VTEC so am very interested in this problem, but, it sounds
> like you're replacing one connector for another (the barrel connector)
> albeit with heavier guage wire. Maybe I've misunderstodd the
> explanantion.............any chance of a quick diagram to show what is being
> removed and replaced?

> Many Thanks

> Les.

That was not me, Chris I beleive. But I will chime in since I have a
theory about spring metal connectors. I am sure this is not the proper
term but I refer to the male blade terminal that slides into a spring
metal female connector. My theory is that the spring metal does not
hold with enough tension to prevent vibration induce arcing. The
arching builds up oxide deposits that may not be obvious but enough to
increase resistance. I am not sure what he means by barrel connectors
but I use the screw together type as they produce a very tight solid
connection that can be quickly disconnecteded. The other type of
"barrel" I know about is the crimp type butt connector which is also
a tighter connevtion if properly crimped but not rte-usable.

Bob

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