RE: vfr Digest, Vol 30, Issue 7

Reply to message 11 JoeO
Am interested in the Yoshi Pipes and filler.
Phone Number?
Mine 573 587-6562

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Today's Topics:

1. Re: new vfr (John Harrison)
2. Re: Top boxes (Rob Keiser)
3. RE: new vfr (Denny Fair)
4. Re: fuel gauge (StlthHsta@xxxxxx)
5. Re: Soft Luggage Recommendations please... (magi@xxxxxx)
6. Re: Soft Luggage Recommendations please... (MP Coleman)
7. RE: Couple questions on '93 VFR (Rob McKinnon)
8. Re: double post (Ed Moore)
9. Re: Couple questions on '93 VFR (Chris Burgess)
10. Two Brake Questions (Simon Spanier)
11. 1997 VFR parts (Lyingfire@xxxxxx)
12. Odp: Top boxes (Maciej Sajecki)
13. Re: Couple questions on '93 VFR (Rob McKinnon)
14. tires (meandean@xxxxxx)
15. Re: tires (Thomas Davenport)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 19:34:07 -0500
From: "John Harrison"
Subject: Re: new vfr
To:
Cc: vfr@xxxxxx
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The "knee down" thing is sorta funny to me. No, I did not get my knee down,

even while going lots faster through the turns than lots of riders that were

striving and succeeding in getting a "knee down". Their focus seemed to be
on getting the scuffed puck, not getting around the track the fastest way.
While extreme hanging off is needed to ride at race pace in some turns on
bikes with really wide tires, most of the hanging off and getting a knee
down at track days appears to be focused on scuffing pucks for bragging
rights and is not really necessary at the speeds most folks outside of the
race groups can maintain. I would also note that lots of guys have won
world roadracing championships without ever touching a knee down.

I agree that the VFR needs fully adjustable suspension. But when you
consider that it is over 100 pounds heavier than my R6, just putting good
suspension on it is not going to make it a good track bike. I don't think
most VFR buyers are interested in making a track bike out of it anyway or
that they even want it to be as light as a 600 supersport, but it could be a

lot better if it was maybe 50 pounds lighter and had more suspension
adjustability.

John Harrison
Birmingham


----- Original Message -----
From: "Quint A Marcaletti"
To: "John Harrison"
Cc:
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 2:48 PM
Subject: RE: new vfr


> Oh I didn't say I didn't get TO the edge, but the "sport bikes" were
> wearing the sharp edges off their DOT tires. Did you also get your knee
> down without grinding?? Granted, this type of riding is NOT what a VFR is

> designed for, but in looking at competitive bikes out there, it's time
> Honda stepped up to the plate with fully adjustable suspensions on the
> VFR.
> QAM
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Harrison [mailto:johnharr@xxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 3:08 PM
> To: quint.marcaletti@xxxxxx
> Cc: vfr@xxxxxx
> Subject: RE: new vfr
>
> Counterpoint...
> My 99 was set up with a Penske rear with some extra ride height dialed in,
> stiff springs and damping so that race sag was 25mm, racetech forks and
> springs and F3 dampers so that race sag was 25mm. At a track day at
> Barber
> Motorsports Park last year I had no trouble getting ALL the way to the
> edge
> of my tires without having a peg touch at all. Even had folks following
> me
> comment about how far over the bike would go without dragging anything.
>
> With stock setting, the VFR will drag lots of stuff, but I am surprised
> that
> one that is set up as described would drag without getting to the edge of
> the tires.
> John Harrison
> Birmingham
>
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: vfr-bounces@xxxxxx [mailto:vfr-bounces@xxxxxx] On Behalf
>> Of Quint A Marcaletti
>> Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 1:29 PM
>> To: Paul Kolbo
>> Cc: vfr@xxxxxx
>> Subject: RE: new vfr
>>
>> Yes, track days, street days, all the above...Yes, I hang off the bike,
>> Yes my Penske is set pretty high with probably too tight damping
>> settings.
>> Yes, I have .9kg Racetech springs in front (with gold valving). My track
>> instructor looked the bike over and agreed the reason I couldn't shave
>> that last edge off the tire was due to the limited lean angle...but I was
>> able to get my knee down most of the day last time. ..and you gotta be
>> hangin WAY off a vfr if you aren't real tall (like me) to get your knee
>> down and not scrape all sorts of hardbits....check out my exhaust pipe
>> sometime! It's pretty hard to weight the inside peg when its completely
>> folded up!!!!
>>
>> What do you mean you think there is something wrong?
>> QAM
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Paul Kolbo [mailto:pakolbo@xxxxxx]
>
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 20:52:32 -0400
From: "Rob Keiser"
Subject: Re: Top boxes
To: vfr@xxxxxx
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I've been using Givi's E460 for a couple years now and I absolutely
Love it. Usually ride with just the tubular topcase rack, but then
switch to their Wingrack2 and add a pair of E360's for sides on longer
trips.

Weather tight, lockable, easy to install/remove, etc. I also really
like their bags that fit inside the luggage. Very easy to pack.

I believe their models have changed a bit, but the utility should be the
same.

Rob
'98 VFR800
Germantown, MD

Message: 10
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 16:18:21 -0700
From: "John Alexander"
Subject: Top boxes
To: vfrlist
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Going to get a top box. Have a Givi rack.
What size would be good for commuting and week long trips?
Givi or some other brand?

http://shorterlink.com/?4XDZO3

TIA,

JohnA - in Calif - LA version


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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 21:13:43 -0400
From: "Denny Fair"
Subject: RE: new vfr
To: "'John Harrison'" ,

Cc: vfr@xxxxxx
Message-ID: <002d01c6d088$883e1ee0$2f01a8c0@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

Hey Quint, I saw your chicken strips or lack thereof at COTU two years ago.
You aren't afraid to lean your VFR. I remember the fun you, Wayne and I had
on Saturday. We had a well matched group and the perfect size of three.
Wayne could have run away and hid from both of us. I was amazed how far
over you leaned your VFR going up over Hawks Nest. We need to hook up and
ride before the weather changes this fall. Let me know what you're up for.
I may even bring my latest "yellow" Honda acquisition out to play.

Denny

-----Original Message-----
From: vfr-bounces@xxxxxx [mailto:vfr-bounces@xxxxxx] On Behalf Of
John Harrison
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 8:34 PM
To: quint.marcaletti@xxxxxx
Cc: vfr@xxxxxx
Subject: Re: new vfr

The "knee down" thing is sorta funny to me. No, I did not get my knee down,

even while going lots faster through the turns than lots of riders that were

striving and succeeding in getting a "knee down". Their focus seemed to be
on getting the scuffed puck, not getting around the track the fastest way.
While extreme hanging off is needed to ride at race pace in some turns on
bikes with really wide tires, most of the hanging off and getting a knee
down at track days appears to be focused on scuffing pucks for bragging
rights and is not really necessary at the speeds most folks outside of the
race groups can maintain. I would also note that lots of guys have won
world roadracing championships without ever touching a knee down.

I agree that the VFR needs fully adjustable suspension. But when you
consider that it is over 100 pounds heavier than my R6, just putting good
suspension on it is not going to make it a good track bike. I don't think
most VFR buyers are interested in making a track bike out of it anyway or
that they even want it to be as light as a 600 supersport, but it could be a

lot better if it was maybe 50 pounds lighter and had more suspension
adjustability.

John Harrison
Birmingham


----- Original Message -----
From: "Quint A Marcaletti"
To: "John Harrison"
Cc:
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 2:48 PM
Subject: RE: new vfr


> Oh I didn't say I didn't get TO the edge, but the "sport bikes" were
> wearing the sharp edges off their DOT tires. Did you also get your knee
> down without grinding?? Granted, this type of riding is NOT what a VFR is

> designed for, but in looking at competitive bikes out there, it's time
> Honda stepped up to the plate with fully adjustable suspensions on the
> VFR.
> QAM
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Harrison [mailto:johnharr@xxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 3:08 PM
> To: quint.marcaletti@xxxxxx
> Cc: vfr@xxxxxx
> Subject: RE: new vfr
>
> Counterpoint...
> My 99 was set up with a Penske rear with some extra ride height dialed in,
> stiff springs and damping so that race sag was 25mm, racetech forks and
> springs and F3 dampers so that race sag was 25mm. At a track day at
> Barber
> Motorsports Park last year I had no trouble getting ALL the way to the
> edge
> of my tires without having a peg touch at all. Even had folks following
> me
> comment about how far over the bike would go without dragging anything.
>
> With stock setting, the VFR will drag lots of stuff, but I am surprised
> that
> one that is set up as described would drag without getting to the edge of
> the tires.
> John Harrison
> Birmingham
>
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: vfr-bounces@xxxxxx [mailto:vfr-bounces@xxxxxx] On Behalf
>> Of Quint A Marcaletti
>> Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 1:29 PM
>> To: Paul Kolbo
>> Cc: vfr@xxxxxx
>> Subject: RE: new vfr
>>
>> Yes, track days, street days, all the above...Yes, I hang off the bike,
>> Yes my Penske is set pretty high with probably too tight damping
>> settings.
>> Yes, I have .9kg Racetech springs in front (with gold valving). My track
>> instructor looked the bike over and agreed the reason I couldn't shave
>> that last edge off the tire was due to the limited lean angle...but I was
>> able to get my knee down most of the day last time. ..and you gotta be
>> hangin WAY off a vfr if you aren't real tall (like me) to get your knee
>> down and not scrape all sorts of hardbits....check out my exhaust pipe
>> sometime! It's pretty hard to weight the inside peg when its completely
>> folded up!!!!
>>
>> What do you mean you think there is something wrong?
>> QAM
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Paul Kolbo [mailto:pakolbo@xxxxxx]
>
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 21:21:46 EDT
From: StlthHsta@xxxxxx
Subject: Re: fuel gauge
To: vfr@xxxxxx
Message-ID: <4fb.4fb535e.322e2b2a@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

In a message dated 9/4/2006 8:20:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
vfr-request@xxxxxx writes:

2- the fuel gauge never goes to full. When the tank is completely topped
off, it shows about 2/3 full. It shows empty when I can still go about 50
miles before switching to reserve (which gives me another 30 miles). Is
this

something typical of the '93s ? Any tips or info ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Reserve??? I ain't got no steening reserve. When the light comes on, I fill

up (if not before). Maybe you have a Euro equipped bike.

Tom McKiernan
'93 Land Shark
Volt meter in place of Euro
reserve valve.





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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 18:42:05 -0700
From: magi@xxxxxx
Subject: Re: Soft Luggage Recommendations please...
To: vfr@xxxxxx
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I have Oxford Sports -- expandable panniers, tail bag, and tank bag.
Colour matches my bike (blue) and they look great on the 00 vfr.
Unfortunately, all soft luggage does mar the paint, but a way around
that is to get low tack tape (such as painter's tape) and tape the area
that the bags contact. Blue tape is easy to find and is virtually
unnoticeable on my bike, but other vfr colours might be hard to find.


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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 19:28:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: MP Coleman
Subject: Re: Soft Luggage Recommendations please...
To: Simon Spanier
Cc: vfr@xxxxxx
Message-ID: <20060905022834.80469.qmail@xxxxxx>
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> On Monday 4Sep2006,@11:53AM,Simon Spanier wrote:
> Hi...I'd like to hear recommendations for soft
> luggage that will work with the 06 VFR with stock
> exhaust. Stuff you purchased where you feel..."wow,
> I'm really glad I got this particular item."

Mr. Spanier,
You might give VENTURA luggage a look. They have
mounting systems for lots of bikes. I used the Ventura
setup on my CBR929RR and put 56K miles on it and never
had a problem w/the luggage system. Tested it to
145mph w/no affect on handling either. Goes on in less
than a minute. Comes off in about 10 seconds or less.
Just something to consider.
http://www.ventura-bike.com/english/...tem/index.html
Patrick in Monument, CO

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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 21:11:32 -0600
From: "Rob McKinnon"
Subject: RE: Couple questions on '93 VFR
To: gerou@xxxxxx, vfr@xxxxxx
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>From: "Olivier"
>1- would my '98VFR rear wheel fit on my brother's '93 ? I can't find the
>rear wheel size info for the '93. I've got a brand new rear tire on my '98
>wheel and I'm hoping I could use it on the '93.

Should fit, I have a '93 wheel on my '99.


RM
'99 GL800RR-SP2




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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 20:14:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ed Moore
Subject: Re: double post
To: vfr@xxxxxx
Message-ID: <20060905031416.28422.qmail@xxxxxx>
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Sorry bout that, error in the system.
Ed

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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 20:57:28 -0700
From: "Chris Burgess"
Subject: Re: Couple questions on '93 VFR
To: "Rob McKinnon"
Cc: gerou@xxxxxx, vfr@xxxxxx
Message-ID:

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doesn't the 93 use a 170 and the 99 use a 180? If so then the 93 is a
5.0" rim and the 99 is a 5.5" rim. If you are using a 180 on the a
5.0 rim the profile isn't correct.

-chris

On 9/4/06, Rob McKinnon wrote:
> >From: "Olivier"
> >1- would my '98VFR rear wheel fit on my brother's '93 ? I can't find the
> >rear wheel size info for the '93. I've got a brand new rear tire on my
'98
> >wheel and I'm hoping I could use it on the '93.
>
> Should fit, I have a '93 wheel on my '99.
>
>
> RM
> '99 GL800RR-SP2
>
>
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 00:13:03 -0400
From: "Simon Spanier"
Subject: Two Brake Questions
To: vfr@xxxxxx
Message-ID:
<816ffb1a0609042113m27597b2bsf2fe16137e6a54c4@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Thanks for the wonderful replies on luggage! I have two questions on
linked/abs brakes...I hope I can make them clear.

1. If descending or turning on wet grass, using rear (foot pedal) brake
only for obvious reasons...does the partial application of the front brake
cause problems? With or without abs...? (To get to where I park, I travel
in a curve over a little grass.)

2. Does the ABS work on both wheels *with respect to both applicators*? In
other words...say you whacked on the front brake (handlebar lever.) I
presume the abs would prevent the front wheel locking. But will it also
prevent the rear wheel from possibly locking as a result of the linking
system's applying rear braking from the handlebar lever? And, of course,
likewise, will the ABS prevent you locking up the FRONT wheel with the foot
pedal?

I would assume Honda might have thought of these points...but I'd like to
hear from anyone who knows.

Many thanks again....Greg
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 00:33:09 EDT
From: Lyingfire@xxxxxx
Subject: 1997 VFR parts
To: vfr@xxxxxx (vfrlist)
Message-ID: <391.9fd1f84.322e5805@xxxxxx>
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I currently have the stock windshield,
the stock handle bar clamps, as I replaced mine with the heli bars,
and Two pipes. The first is the stock VFR pipe and the second is a Carbon
fiber Yoshimura. All products are in excellent condition. I even have brand
new
asbestos pipe filler to ensure proper noise emissions as far as the law is
concerned. If interested write me back for which products and I will make
you a
better than competitive deal.
I am still recovering from back surgery and am desperate. I will give you
the
best deal out there but please don't take advantage of me as I am trying to
support my wife and 9 of the 11 children still at home on extremely limited
income due to my non-motorcycle related accident.
Thank you for your inquiries and hope to see you out there soon.
Fellow MC and VFR enthusiast,
Joe O.
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 11:42:28 +0200
From: "Maciej Sajecki"
Subject: Odp: Top boxes
To: vfr
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From: Devin Burns
Subject: Re: Top boxes

> I personally think that 46L Givi (E 460) is the best top box,
> it can fit 2 lrg helmets and other bulky items. Some will say
> it is too much weight for a top box... so I don't put a bunch of
> heavy stuff up there.

I use Kappa K45 on Givi Monorack - can fit 2 integrals + some other stuff.
With RC24 I used 36L topcase from Moto Detail, also on Monorack, held single
integral + lots of space around. But I like 45L much more :) It doesn't
really put extra width on the bike, certainly no more than handlebars or
mirrors, so it doesn't cause any limitations even in heavy city traffic. And
You can easily put the laptop along small briefcase in there, which wasn't
possible with smaller boxes (I used 29L Shad for
a while). I can also fit my helmet along with jacket, when I'm off to some
meeting in summertime, or my sons' full gear with boots, after I dropped him
off at the preschool.

Having 45L topcase and Oxford tankbag I can go for a long weekend without
additional side bags. I use them (or backpack) only if I need to bring the
tent & stuff.

However, it's true what they say about weight - my Monorack gave up
recently, damaging all rear plastics. Polish roads, what they are, played
big part too, but I know I often put much more than recommended 5kgs there.
Luckily, I realised what's going on before topcase fully took off the bike.

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'99 RC 46


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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 04:09:17 -0600
From: "Rob McKinnon"
Subject: Re: Couple questions on '93 VFR
To: chris@xxxxxx
Cc: gerou@xxxxxx, vfr@xxxxxx
Message-ID:
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed

>From: "Chris Burgess"
>doesn't the 93 use a 170 and the 99 use a 180? If so then the 93 is a 5.0"

>rim and the 99 is a 5.5" rim. If you are using a 180 on the a
>5.0 rim the profile isn't correct.


The '90-'93s used a 17x5.5" rim, exactly the same as the '98+ bikes.

The only SSSA VFRs with a 5" rear wheel are the '94-'97 models.

And the 8-spoker looks schweet!


http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...at%20exhaust%2
0project/Devils/Picture004.jpg



Later...ROB
'99 GL800RR-SP2
Spouse's- '90VTR250
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 4:30:46 -0700
From:
Subject: tires
To: vfr@xxxxxx
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

I just bought a '97 vfr750. It needs tires. What is the best sport touring
tire? I will not be riding the bike like a sport bike, just a daily
commuter. I would like a tire that will last as long as possible. Thanks.


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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 07:17:43 -0500
From: Thomas Davenport
Subject: Re: tires
To: ,
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I have a '97 and put Avon Azaros on at the beginning of the summer. They
have hardly worn in 6k of mainly slab riding, it looks like these will last
quite a while. I run them fast on the freeway, let's just say 85+ for 10 of
the 20 miles of my commute. They are great rain tires and handle reasonably
well. They aren't as good on the twisties as the previous Avons (I forgot
the model number). Also the ride is very good. In summary they are great
commuter tires, well suited for the freeway, OK for some sport use but tend
to make the bike steer a bit heavy.

Tom

On 9/5/06 6:30 AM, "meandean@xxxxxx" wrote:

> I just bought a '97 vfr750. It needs tires. What is the best sport
touring
> tire? I will not be riding the bike like a sport bike, just a daily
commuter.
> I would like a tire that will last as long as possible. Thanks.
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