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SSS rear axle rebuild
After 110,000+ miles and occasionally getting both wheels off the ground, my
rear bearings are done. How do you know when the bearings are done? First you notice what sounds like a squeaky rear brake. Then you notice some side play in the rear wheel, so you check the lug nuts only to find they are perfectly tight. Then at low speeds you start to feel a little wobble in the rear. It goes away with speed though. Also you will see rusty powder around the big nut. So last week I put in an order with Service Honda for all the bearings and seals. I haven't received them yet, but today I started to disassemble everything. I figured my Big Ass adjustable wrench would be big enough. Nope, but dremeling in another notch and cutting away some of the adjuster screw allowed it to open just enough. I got the nut and driven sprocket/cush drive bits off, and popped off the big snap ring on the right side. But the bearing holder/eccentric adjuster assembly just won't pull out. Turning it with the chain adjust tool helped to get it out a little more so it is about .5" out. Is it necessary to do some heavy duty hammering with a Big Ass hammer? It seems like the bearing holder and axle have become one. Travis '95 RC36 '01 SV650S '04 DR650 '85 VF500F '97 RC36 donor about to lose its entire swingarm. '03 SV1000 race bike FOR SALE _______________________________________________ vfr mailing list vfr@xxxxxx For subscription and delivery options: https://lists.cs.wisc.edu/mailman/listinfo/vfr |
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RE: SSS rear axle rebuild
Travis:
If the 17 mm(?) bolt that pinches the swingarm around the bearing carrier is loose enough, that thing should just come right out. A big screwdriver or other wedge could open it up slightly more, if that's the issue. But there could be some junk built up in there. Fine sand can get in through the split in the back of the swingarm and could be contributing because there's a little space that goes all around the carrier. Or the carrier itself could have some corrosion on it. >From what you describe I'd be in there with the PB Blaster and Big Ass hammer (with a piece of hardwood). Hope this helps. Oh, watch the parts. Some Honda manuals have error in the section dealing with this procedure. Paul I got the nut and driven > sprocket/cush drive bits off, and popped off the big snap ring on the > right > side. But the bearing holder/eccentric adjuster assembly just won't pull > out. Turning it with the chain adjust tool helped to get it out a little > more so it is about .5" out. > > Is it necessary to do some heavy duty hammering with a Big Ass hammer? > It > seems like the bearing holder and axle have become one. > > > > Travis '95 RC36 '01 SV650S '04 DR650 '85 VF500F > '97 RC36 donor about to lose its entire swingarm. > '03 SV1000 race bike FOR SALE > > _______________________________________________ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.11/493 - Release Date: 10/23/2006 _______________________________________________ vfr mailing list vfr@xxxxxx For subscription and delivery options: https://lists.cs.wisc.edu/mailman/listinfo/vfr |
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Re: SSS rear axle rebuild
On 10/24/06, Travis
> > > > Is it necessary to do some heavy duty hammering with a Big Ass hammer? > It > seems like the bearing holder and axle have become one. Did this last year and noted that the large nut becomes pretty much fused with the axle after a while. A nice piece of ash helped in my case to persuede the two apart. Good luck, but it does not take long after that point. JohnA in LA _______________________________________________ vfr mailing list vfr@xxxxxx For subscription and delivery options: https://lists.cs.wisc.edu/mailman/listinfo/vfr |
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RE: SSS rear axle rebuild
John
When I first read the post from Travis I thought he was referring to a problem getting the axle out of the driven flange/driven sprocket hub. This is the issue that you are referring to, and this is where I had most of the problems when I did this job. I got a nice piece of ash to help me, too. But from Travis’ description, he’s gotten those pieces apart and is now dealing with getting the bearing carrier out. I wouldn’t have thought this would be a problem, but obviously there is something funky going on there. Paul On 10/24/06, Travis Is it necessary to do some heavy duty hammering with a Big Ass hammer? It seems like the bearing holder and axle have become one. Did this last year and noted that the large nut becomes pretty much fused with the axle after a while. A nice piece of ash helped in my case to persuede the two apart. Good luck, but it does not take long after that point. JohnA in LA -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.11/496 - Release Date: 10/24/2006 _______________________________________________ vfr mailing list vfr@xxxxxx For subscription and delivery options: https://lists.cs.wisc.edu/mailman/listinfo/vfr |
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Re: SSS rear axle rebuild
On 10/25/06, Paul Monti
> > John > > When I first read the post from Travis I thought he was referring to a > problem getting the axle out of the driven flange/driven sprocket hub. This > is the issue that you are referring to, and this is where I had most of the > problems when I did this job. I got a nice piece of ash to help me, too. > But from Travis' description, he's gotten those pieces apart and is now > dealing with getting the bearing carrier out. I wouldn't have thought this > would be a problem, but obviously there is something funky going on there. > Good point Paul A word to the wise on this. I did my rear end before therer were problems with the bearings. So, it was just a matter of getting in there and regreasing the bunch. I recommend doing this by the 75k threshold. Oh, and hit the outer nut now and then with some WD-40. It likes to freeze up. JohnA in LA _______________________________________________ vfr mailing list vfr@xxxxxx For subscription and delivery options: https://lists.cs.wisc.edu/mailman/listinfo/vfr |
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Re: SSS rear axle rebuild
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From: "Paul Monti" > From what you describe I'd be in there with the PB Blaster and Big Ass > hammer (with a piece of hardwood). > > Paul, You're right about that PB Blaster. In the meantime I ended up just using the entire swingarm from Matt Roth's old bike. I was later able to get off the part the cush drive rides on, but that was it. Yesterday I picked up some PB Blaster and soaked it for 24 hours. Tonight I wailed on it a few times with a 2x4 and the axle finally came out. One of these days I'll get around to putting it back together and swapping swingarms again. It looks like the spare swingarm's axle isn't in very good condition either. The spacer just inboard of the big nut seems to be solidly fused to everything around it, at least it doesn't rotate in an oval shape. That swingarm has less than 50,000 miles. I won't worry about that for now. Travis '95 RC36 '01 SV650S '04 DR650 '85 VF500F Picking up an '83 DT-80K in RI this weekend :-) '03 SV1000 race bike FOR SALE _______________________________________________ vfr mailing list vfr@xxxxxx For subscription and delivery options: https://lists.cs.wisc.edu/mailman/listinfo/vfr |
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