RE: vfr Digest, Vol 32, Issue 35

""Shouldn't make much of a difference.
Just be sure to go fast enough so that your exhaust doesn't waft up and
smoke you out.

Truthfully a more detailed answer would be (and I'm speaking in theories
here)
In General the less backpressure you have, and even removing that straight
thru Micron pipe should reduce the backpressure, the leaner the motor will
run. So if it feels like it's running lean (surging) You'll know why.

Now you also know that exhaust length can effect a powerband?
Essentially there is a reverse pressure wave that travels up the pipe from
the outlet when the positive wave exits the pipe.
Also does so from where the header pipes join.
This reverse pressure wave can be tuned to hit the exhaust valve at the
right time (for a certain RPM) and help with cylinder scavenging. So taking
tha can off will change the length of the pipe (duh), and change the RPM at
which that reverse wave helps scavenge the exhaust, and should, in theory,
move your power peak around. In general, for a shorter pipe, it'll raise
the power and torque peaks in the RPM ranges.""

The original poster asked about his 01 VFR. All VFRs since 2000 have Catalytic Converters. I should think that this adds enough restriction so that any opening after the CATCON is insignificant. But I could be wrong. I can tell you that the CATCON adds just enough filtering to knock out a lot of the higher frequency raspiness, and my 00 sounds pretty awesome without any tailpipe!

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Awesome. I didn't know that 2000 + VFRs had Cats.
In my Eclipse, I'm not running a muffler at all, just the stock three
catalytic converters (yeah I know, overkill), which dampen out just enough
sound to keep me sounding mean yet civilized.

Concensus seems to be:
Short-term: You'll be fine
Long-term: Run a stright pipe if you like the sound better.

Speaking strictly form an engine health point of view.
Whether it pisses off the neighbors or local constabulary is an entirely
different discussion, one I'll just quietly step out of...





On 11/29/06, Quint A Marcaletti wrote:
>
> ""Shouldn't make much of a difference.
> Just be sure to go fast enough so that your exhaust doesn't waft up and
> smoke you out.
>
> Truthfully a more detailed answer would be (and I'm speaking in theories
> here)
> In General the less backpressure you have, and even removing that straight
> thru Micron pipe should reduce the backpressure, the leaner the motor will
> run. So if it feels like it's running lean (surging) You'll know why.
>
> Now you also know that exhaust length can effect a powerband?
> Essentially there is a reverse pressure wave that travels up the pipe from
> the outlet when the positive wave exits the pipe.
> Also does so from where the header pipes join.
> This reverse pressure wave can be tuned to hit the exhaust valve at the
> right time (for a certain RPM) and help with cylinder scavenging. So
> taking
> tha can off will change the length of the pipe (duh), and change the RPM
> at
> which that reverse wave helps scavenge the exhaust, and should, in theory,
> move your power peak around. In general, for a shorter pipe, it'll raise
> the power and torque peaks in the RPM ranges.""
>
> The original poster asked about his 01 VFR. All VFRs since 2000 have
> Catalytic Converters. I should think that this adds enough restriction so
> that any opening after the CATCON is insignificant. But I could be
> wrong. I can tell you that the CATCON adds just enough filtering to knock
> out a lot of the higher frequency raspiness, and my 00 sounds pretty awesome
> without any tailpipe!
>
> QAM
>
>
>
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What is the meaning and derivative of "Squids", in the street bike,
acting a fool sense?


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A squid is an irresponsible motorcyclist. The term is derogatory and common among motorcyclists in the United States and is generally associated with a new or reckless motorcyclist seen riding erratically and/or beyond his or her capabilities, often without appropriate riding gear.


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And yet more...


Derivative of U.S. military culture:
Newly-inducted sailors based in San Diego in the '60s would frequently buy an inexpensive two-stroke motorcyle for transportation while on shore, whether they'd ever ridden before or not. So, there were large numbers of unprotected, inexperienced "marine life" squirting through traffic in a hurry and leaving a trail of black "ink" (smoke) behind them.

Based on similarity between the way a "squid" rides and an actual squid swims.
Squids can appear unable to change direction while swimming without first coming to a near complete stop. However, once the squid does stop and change directions, it can very quickly accelerate back to its regular swimming speed. Beginning motorcyclists (especially sport bike riders) commonly have trouble negotiating turns, and must slow down to unnecessarily slow speed, while at the same time have a tendency to ride very fast on the straight sections of the road.
Often young, squids are identified by their reckless abandon (speeding, wheelies, stoppies etc.) and by their inappropriate attire (shorts, backwards ball caps, flip flops, wifebeater T-shirt, etc). Such a rider eschews all or most of the protective gear worn by many riders (helmet, gloves, leather jacket, riding pants, and boots) and the social and legal norms of riding behaviour, and as such is looked upon with derision by experienced motorcyclists, who also refer to them as "organ donors", "Zip-Splats", "a Stillie", "Skin Crayons", "Sausage Creatures"<1> and "soon-to-be-ex-motorcyclists".


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What is the meaning and derivative of "Squids", in the street bike,
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Thanks! This was not only very informative but entertaining.


On Dec 7, 2006, at 11:39 AM, bktobk3233@xxxxxx wrote:

> And yet more...
>
>
> Derivative of U.S. military culture:
> Newly-inducted sailors based in San Diego in the '60s would
> frequently buy an inexpensive two-stroke motorcyle for
> transportation while on shore, whether they'd ever ridden before or
> not. So, there were large numbers of unprotected, inexperienced
> "marine life" squirting through traffic in a hurry and leaving a
> trail of black "ink" (smoke) behind them.
>
> Based on similarity between the way a "squid" rides and an actual
> squid swims.
> Squids can appear unable to change direction while swimming without
> first coming to a near complete stop. However, once the squid does
> stop and change directions, it can very quickly accelerate back to
> its regular swimming speed. Beginning motorcyclists (especially
> sport bikeriders) commonly have trouble negotiating turns, and must
> slow down to unnecessarily slow speed, while at the same time have
> a tendency to ride very fast on the straight sections of the road.
> Often young, squids are identified by their reckless abandon
> (speeding, wheelies, stoppies etc.) and by their inappropriate
> attire (shorts, backwards ball caps, flip flops, wifebeater T-
> shirt, etc). Such a rider eschews all or most of the protective
> gear worn by many riders (helmet, gloves, leather jacket, riding
> pants, and boots) and the social and legal norms of riding
> behaviour, and as such is looked upon with derision by experienced
> motorcyclists, who also refer to them as "organ donors", "Zip-
> Splats", "a Stillie", "Skin Crayons", "Sausage Creatures"<1> and
> "soon-to-be-ex-motorcyclists".
>
>
> I love the internet...
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jonassaint@xxxxxx
> Cc: vfr@xxxxxx
> Sent: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 8:13 AM
> Subject: squids - dumb questions
>
> What is the meaning and derivative of "Squids", in the street
> bike, acting a fool sense?
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I love the fact that I found this in an actual encyclopedia.


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Sent: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: squids - dumb questions


Thanks! This was not only very informative but entertaining.




On Dec 7, 2006, at 11:39 AM, bktobk3233@xxxxxx wrote:


And yet more...


Derivative of U.S. military culture:
Newly-inducted sailors based in San Diego in the '60s would frequently buy an inexpensive two-stroke motorcyle for transportation while on shore, whether they'd ever ridden before or not. So, there were large numbers of unprotected, inexperienced "marine life" squirting through traffic in a hurry and leaving a trail of black "ink" (smoke) behind them.

Based on similarity between the way a "squid" rides and an actual squid swims.
Squids can appear unable to change direction while swimming without first coming to a near complete stop. However, once the squid does stop and change directions, it can very quickly accelerate back to its regular swimming speed. Beginning motorcyclists (especially sport bikeriders) commonly have trouble negotiating turns, and must slow down to unnecessarily slow speed, while at the same time have a tendency to ride very fast on the straight sections of the road.
Often young, squids are identified by their reckless abandon (speeding, wheelies, stoppies etc.) and by their inappropriate attire (shorts, backwards ball caps, flip flops, wifebeater T-shirt, etc). Such a rider eschews all or most of the protective gear worn by many riders (helmet, gloves, leather jacket, riding pants, and boots) and the social and legal norms of riding behaviour, and as such is looked upon with derision by experienced motorcyclists, who also refer to them as "organ donors", "Zip-Splats", "a Stillie", "Skin Crayons", "Sausage Creatures"<1> and "soon-to-be-ex-motorcyclists".


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It is a wikipedia which is not an actual encyclopedia. The statements
made in the wikipedia are generally fact due to the large number of
eyes that get a chance to view and provide feedback but not always.

-Chris

On 12/7/06, bktobk3233@xxxxxx wrote:
>
> I love the fact that I found this in an actual encyclopedia.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jonassaint@xxxxxx
> To: bktobk3233@xxxxxx
> Cc: vfr@xxxxxx
> Sent: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 8:49 AM
> Subject: Re: squids - dumb questions
>
>
> Thanks! This was not only very informative but entertaining.
>
>
>
> On Dec 7, 2006, at 11:39 AM, bktobk3233@xxxxxx wrote:
>
> And yet more...
>
>
> Derivative of U.S. military culture:
> Newly-inducted sailors based in San Diego in the '60s would frequently buy
> an inexpensive two-stroke motorcyle for transportation while on shore,
> whether they'd ever ridden before or not. So, there were large numbers of
> unprotected, inexperienced "marine life" squirting through traffic in a
> hurry and leaving a trail of black "ink" (smoke) behind them.
> Based on similarity between the way a "squid" rides and an actual squid
> swims.
> Squids can appear unable to change direction while swimming without first
> coming to a near complete stop. However, once the squid does stop and change
> directions, it can very quickly accelerate back to its regular swimming
> speed. Beginning motorcyclists (especially sport bikeriders) commonly have
> trouble negotiating turns, and must slow down to unnecessarily slow speed,
> while at the same time have a tendency to ride very fast on the straight
> sections of the road.
> Often young, squids are identified by their reckless abandon (speeding,
> wheelies, stoppies etc.) and by their inappropriate attire (shorts,
> backwards ball caps, flip flops, wifebeater T-shirt, etc). Such a rider
> eschews ! all or most of the protective gear worn by many riders (helmet,
> gloves, leather jacket, riding pants, and boots) and the social and legal
> norms of riding behaviour, and as such is looked upon with derision by
> experienced motorcyclists, who also refer to them as "organ donors",
> "Zip-Splats", "a Stillie", "Skin Crayons", "Sausage Creatures"<1> and
> "soon-to-be-ex-motorcyclists".
>
>
> I love the internet...
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jonassaint@xxxxxx
> Cc: vfr@xxxxxx
> Sent: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 8:13 AM
> Subject: squ! ids - dumb questions
>
> What is the meaning and derivative of "Squids", in the street bike, acting
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On Thursday 07 December 2006 09:13 am, Charles Jonassaint wrote:
> What is the meaning and derivative of "Squids", in the street bike,
> acting a fool sense?

I have also heard that is came from this:

SQUirrly kID.

I like the navy story better.

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military force.

Instead, they give their freedoms away, politically correct piece by
politically correct piece.
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I love the fact that I found this (bias and fictitious opinion) in an (not) actual encyclopedia (that is based on my peers opinions and nothing else what so ever, even if it is mildly accurate and very entertaining).

Like a fart in church, I'm regretting the post...



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Thanks! This was not only very informative but entertaining.




On Dec 7, 2006, at 11:39 AM, bktobk3233@xxxxxx wrote:


And yet more...


Derivative of U.S. military culture:
Newly-inducted sailors based in San Diego in the '60s would frequently buy an inexpensive two-stroke motorcyle for transportation while on shore, whether they'd ever ridden before or not. So, there were large numbers of unprotected, inexperienced "marine life" squirting through traffic in a hurry and leaving a trail of black "ink" (smoke) behind them.

Based on similarity between the way a "squid" rides and an actual squid swims.
Squids can appear unable to change direction while swimming without first coming to a near complete stop. However, once the squid does stop and change directions, it can very quickly accelerate back to its regular swimming speed. Beginning motorcyclists (especially sport bikeriders) commonly have trouble negotiating turns, and must slow down to unnecessarily slow speed, while at the same time have a tendency to ride very fast on the straight sections of the road.
Often young, squids are identified by their reckless abandon (speeding, wheelies, stoppies etc.) and by their inappropriate attire (shorts, backwards ball caps, flip flops, wifebeater T-shirt, etc). Such a rider eschews all or most of the protective gear worn by many riders (helmet, gloves, leather jacket, riding pants, and boots) and the social and legal norms of riding behaviour, and as such is looked upon with derision by experienced motorcyclists, who also refer to them as "organ donors", "Zip-Splats", "a Stillie", "Skin Crayons", "Sausage Creatures"<1> and "soon-to-be-ex-motorcyclists".


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Don't you mean like a fart on a plane. :)

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So, please educate me on this, since I learned so much about Zip-
splats and skin crayons (which gets my #1 vote).
VFR 800 comes stock with riser bars, right? Can you put flat bars on
there? Would that put your further behind your wind screen and give
you more wind/cold protection. And, maybe you go faster?

p.s. so after the squid email chain, I now go slow everywhere, not
just in the curves.


since I'm a psychologist to be, I liked this quote I saw on someone's
forum post:

"You never see a motorcycle outside a psychiatrists office do ya?"
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On Thursday 7Dec, 2006, at 5:22 PM, Charles Jonassaint wrote:

>
> So, please educate me on this, since I learned so much about Zip-
> splats and skin crayons (which gets my #1 vote).
> VFR 800 comes stock with riser bars, right?

VFR800 comes with clip-ons (separate bar on each side that clamps to
the fork tube) versus bars (a single piece of pipe that clamps to the
triple).
Stock, there is no separate riser (that is, spacer separate from the
clip-on itself), even though the 'bar' on each clip-on 'rises' above
the clamp portion.

> Can you put flat bars on
> there? Would that put your further behind your wind screen and give
> you more wind/cold protection. And, maybe you go faster?
>
Take your stock clip-ons and install them below the upper triple,
rather than above it. If there aren't clearance problems, it will get
you lower.

While getting lower by lowering the clip-ons in this way will give
you more wind protection, it will also put _much_ more pressure on
your wrists, and likely interfere with turning clearance. A likely-
better solution would be to install a taller screen and hand-guards
or hippo-hands.

As for going faster, the _vast_ majority of road-going VFRs are
constrained by (in order, but leaving out other factors that might be
interleaved):
their riders
the road
aerodynamic drag.

> p.s. so after the squid email chain, I now go slow everywhere, not
> just in the curves.
>
>
> since I'm a psychologist to be, I liked this quote I saw on someone's
> forum post:
>
> "You never see a motorcycle outside a psychiatrists office do ya?"
>
That just serves to confirm the old saw, "horsepower is cheaper than
therapy!"
;-)

later,
Johnj

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Hey Listers,

I'm looking at options for a comprehensive communications package for my
bikes and wonder what rigs people have now, how they work for you, and
if there is anything new coming out that would better satisfy my needs
without costing a fortune. I'm planning on doing some touring this
summer with my wife on the back of my FJR and my son and his girlfriend
on the VFR.

So what I want is something with a duplex intercom from each rider to
their passenger (pillion) and also communication (simplex or duplex)
from bike to bike. I'd really like if it were bluetooth so I can
connect to my present cell phone (Moto Razr) and also take directions
from a GPS to be purchased in the future (either a TomTom rider or
Garmin zumo). Bluetooth would also avoid the dangling cables of a wired
installation. It would be cool if I could somehow get some music into
the headset too (MP3s), but that would mean it should be stereo and is
not my highest priority. I think the GPSes can be loaded with MP3s, but
believe that they are monaural, which is OK. The stumbling block seems
to be in getting the bike to bike incorporated into the rest of the
bluetooth package.

Does anything exist that satisfies all of those requirements?

TIA,

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I was all set to reply to this till I started reading your requirements.
I'm not aware of anything that is Bluetooth exclusively. Plenty of them have
BT for connection to cellphones, but still require wires to the helmets and
accessories.

I use a StarCom1 (http://www.starcom1.com) and absolutely love it.
Full duplex (constant open) between rider and pillion.
optional BT module for cell phone.
GPS/Radar input
Audio (MP3) input. Full stereo to the headsets
VOX or PTT control of the radio.

run a cable up for your GPS, one for your bike-to-bike radio, and one for
your MP3. my headset cables run out from under the seat and get plugged in
when we jump on the bike (unit automatically turns off when the 1st headset
is unplugged)

There are some cables, but I've not had any problems with them being a real
pain.

my setup ran me in the $400 range. that included 2 headsets, radio cable, 2
PTTs, audio cable, power cable, and of course the unit itself.
I picked this over the Autocom due to the price. The features and review
appear to be very similar.

I'll highly recommend StarCom.

On 3/1/07, Fred Wills wrote:
>
> Hey Listers,
>
> I'm looking at options for a comprehensive communications package for my
> bikes and wonder what rigs people have now, how they work for you, and
> if there is anything new coming out that would better satisfy my needs
> without costing a fortune. I'm planning on doing some touring this
> summer with my wife on the back of my FJR and my son and his girlfriend
> on the VFR.
>
> So what I want is something with a duplex intercom from each rider to
> their passenger (pillion) and also communication (simplex or duplex)
> from bike to bike. I'd really like if it were bluetooth so I can
> connect to my present cell phone (Moto Razr) and also take directions
> from a GPS to be purchased in the future (either a TomTom rider or
> Garmin zumo). Bluetooth would also avoid the dangling cables of a wired
> installation. It would be cool if I could somehow get some music into
> the headset too (MP3s), but that would mean it should be stereo and is
> not my highest priority. I think the GPSes can be loaded with MP3s, but
> believe that they are monaural, which is OK. The stumbling block seems
> to be in getting the bike to bike incorporated into the rest of the
> bluetooth package.
>
> Does anything exist that satisfies all of those requirements?
>
> TIA,
>
> --
>
> -Fred W
>
> '98 Honda VFR800Fi SPORTtourer
> '01 Kawi Concours sportTOURER
> '05 Yammi FJR1300 SPORTTOURER
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Look up

Starcom
Audiocom
Chatterbox

in the list archives and/or www.

On Thursday 1Mar, 2007, at 10:19 AM, Fred Wills wrote:

> Hey Listers,
>
> I'm looking at options for a comprehensive communications package
> for my
> bikes and wonder what rigs people have now, how they work for you, and
> if there is anything new coming out that would better satisfy my needs
> without costing a fortune. I'm planning on doing some touring this
> summer with my wife on the back of my FJR and my son and his
> girlfriend
> on the VFR.
>
> So what I want is something with a duplex intercom from each rider to
> their passenger (pillion) and also communication (simplex or duplex)
> from bike to bike. I'd really like if it were bluetooth so I can
> connect to my present cell phone (Moto Razr) and also take directions
> from a GPS to be purchased in the future (either a TomTom rider or
> Garmin zumo). Bluetooth would also avoid the dangling cables of a
> wired
> installation. It would be cool if I could somehow get some music into
> the headset too (MP3s), but that would mean it should be stereo and is
> not my highest priority. I think the GPSes can be loaded with
> MP3s, but
> believe that they are monaural, which is OK. The stumbling block
> seems
> to be in getting the bike to bike incorporated into the rest of the
> bluetooth package.
>
> Does anything exist that satisfies all of those requirements?
>
> TIA,
>
> --
>
> -Fred W
>
> '98 Honda VFR800Fi SPORTtourer
> '01 Kawi Concours sportTOURER
> '05 Yammi FJR1300 SPORTTOURER
>
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Glad I could provide something useful.
A year or so ago when I was looking, I stumbled across one out of Europe
that was going to be BT to the helmets and looked very nice, but it wasn't
available here and I don't recall the make/model

I did find this link over on WebBikeWorld
http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcyc...ercom.htmmight
find something useful there.

On 3/1/07, Fred Wills wrote:
>
> Thanks Nathan. I will consider this as it seems to have most of the
> features that I desire and the price is reasonable.
>
> The only "desired" blue tooth for me would be the one from the unit
> mounted on the bike to the helmets. I'd really like to go wireless
> there. The peripheral devices could all be wired into "communicator"
> whatever that is.
>
> -Fred
>
> Nathan Seery wrote:
>
> > I was all set to reply to this till I started reading your requirements.
> > I'm not aware of anything that is Bluetooth exclusively. Plenty of
> > them have BT for connection to cellphones, but still require wires to
> > the helmets and accessories.
> >
> > I use a StarCom1 (http://www.starcom1.com) and absolutely love it.
> > Full duplex (constant open) between rider and pillion.
> > optional BT module for cell phone.
> > GPS/Radar input
> > Audio (MP3) input. Full stereo to the headsets
> > VOX or PTT control of the radio.
> >
> > run a cable up for your GPS, one for your bike-to-bike radio, and one
> > for your MP3. my headset cables run out from under the seat and get
> > plugged in when we jump on the bike (unit automatically turns off when
> > the 1st headset is unplugged)
> >
> > There are some cables, but I've not had any problems with them being a
> > real pain.
> >
> > my setup ran me in the $400 range. that included 2 headsets, radio
> > cable, 2 PTTs, audio cable, power cable, and of course the unit itself.
> > I picked this over the Autocom due to the price. The features and
> > review appear to be very similar.
> >
> > I'll highly recommend StarCom.
> >
> > On 3/1/07, * Fred Wills* > > > wrote:
> >
> > Hey Listers,
> >
> > I'm looking at options for a comprehensive communications package
> > for my
> > bikes and wonder what rigs people have now, how they work for you,
> and
> > if there is anything new coming out that would better satisfy my
> > needs
> > without costing a fortune. I'm planning on doing some touring this
> > summer with my wife on the back of my FJR and my son and his
> > girlfriend
> > on the VFR.
> >
> > So what I want is something with a duplex intercom from each rider
> to
> > their passenger (pillion) and also communication (simplex or duplex)
> > from bike to bike. I'd really like if it were bluetooth so I can
> > connect to my present cell phone (Moto Razr) and also take
> directions
> > from a GPS to be purchased in the future (either a TomTom rider or
> > Garmin zumo). Bluetooth would also avoid the dangling cables of a
> > wired
> > installation. It would be cool if I could somehow get some music
> into
> > the headset too (MP3s), but that would mean it should be stereo
> > and is
> > not my highest priority. I think the GPSes can be loaded with
> > MP3s, but
> > believe that they are monaural, which is OK. The stumbling block
> > seems
> > to be in getting the bike to bike incorporated into the rest of the
> > bluetooth package.
> >
> > Does anything exist that satisfies all of those requirements?
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> > --
> >
> > -Fred W
> >
> > '98 Honda VFR800Fi SPORTtourer
> > '01 Kawi Concours sportTOURER
> > '05 Yammi FJR1300 SPORTTOURER
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> -Fred W
>
> '98 Honda VFR800Fi SPORTtourer
> '01 Kawi Concours sportTOURER
> '05 Yammi FJR1300 SPORTTOURER
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