Re: squids - dumb questions

Now *that* is a great post.

I resembled a Zip-Splat once upon a time :D

---- Original message ----
>Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 11:39:05 -0500
>From: bktobk3233@xxxxxx
>Subject: Re: squids - dumb questions
>To: jonassaint@xxxxxx
>Cc:
>
> And yet more...
>
>
> Derivative of U.S. military culture:
> * Newly-inducted sailors based in San Diego in the
> '60s would frequently buy an inexpensive
> two-stroke motorcyle for transportation while on
> shore, whether they'd ever ridden before or not.
> So, there were large numbers of unprotected,
> inexperienced "marine life" squirting through
> traffic in a hurry and leaving a trail of black
> "ink" (smoke) behind them.
>
> * Based on similarity between the way a "squid"
> rides and an actual squid swims.
> * Squids can appear unable to change direction
> while swimming without first coming to a near
> complete stop. However, once the squid does
> stop and change directions, it can very
> quickly accelerate back to its regular
> swimming speed. Beginning motorcyclists
> (especially sport bike riders) commonly have
> trouble negotiating turns, and must slow down
> to unnecessarily slow speed, while at the same
> time have a tendency to ride very fast on the
> straight sections of the road.
> Often young, squids are identified by their
> reckless abandon (speeding, wheelies, stoppies
> etc.) and by their inappropriate attire (shorts,
> backwards ball caps, flip flops, wifebeater
> T-shirt, etc). Such a rider eschews all or most of
> the protective gear worn by many riders (helmet,
> gloves, leather jacket, riding pants, and boots)
> and the social and legal norms of riding
> behaviour, and as such is looked upon with
> derision by experienced motorcyclists, who also
> refer to them as "organ donors", "Zip-Splats", "a
> Stillie", "Skin Crayons", "Sausage Creatures"<1>
> and "soon-to-be-ex-motorcyclists".
>
>
> I love the internet...
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Jeez, all this time I thought it was a contraction of two words: SQUirrely
and kIDS.

Michael

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Alright I missed thre first few posts but did anyone break out the

So-Quick-Until-I-Die (S-Q-U-I-D) ?


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>Message: 1
>Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 11:39:05 -0500
>From: bktobk3233@xxxxxx
>Subject: Re: squids - dumb questions
>To: jonassaint@xxxxxx
>Cc: vfr@xxxxxx
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>And yet more...
>
>
> Derivative of U.S. military culture:
>Newly-inducted sailors based in San Diego in the '60s would frequently buy
>an inexpensive two-stroke motorcyle for transportation while on shore,
>whether they'd ever ridden before or not. So, there were large numbers of
>unprotected, inexperienced "marine life" squirting through traffic in a
>hurry and leaving a trail of black "ink" (smoke) behind them.
>
>Based on similarity between the way a "squid" rides and an actual squid
>swims.
>Squids can appear unable to change direction while swimming without first
>coming to a near complete stop. However, once the squid does stop and
>change directions, it can very quickly accelerate back to its regular
>swimming speed. Beginning motorcyclists (especially sport bike riders)
>commonly have trouble negotiating turns, and must slow down to
>unnecessarily slow speed, while at the same time have a tendency to ride
>very fast on the straight sections of the road.
>Often young, squids are identified by their reckless abandon (speeding,
>wheelies, stoppies etc.) and by their inappropriate attire (shorts,
>backwards ball caps, flip flops, wifebeater T-shirt, etc). Such a rider
>eschews all or most of the protective gear worn by many riders (helmet,
>gloves, leather jacket, riding pants, and boots) and the social and legal
>norms of riding behaviour, and as such is looked upon with derision by
>experienced motorcyclists, who also refer to them as "organ donors",
>"Zip-Splats", "a Stillie", "Skin Crayons", "Sausage Creatures"<1> and
>"soon-to-be-ex-motorcyclists".
>
>
>I love the internet...
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: jonassaint@xxxxxx
>Cc: vfr@xxxxxx
>Sent: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 8:13 AM
>Subject: squids - dumb questions
>
>
>What is the meaning and derivative of "Squids", in the street bike,
>acting a fool sense?
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>Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 11:49:07 -0500
>From: Charles Jonassaint
>Subject: Re: squids - dumb questions
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>Thanks! This was not only very informative but entertaining.
>
>
>On Dec 7, 2006, at 11:39 AM, bktobk3233@xxxxxx wrote:
>
> > And yet more...
> >
> >
> > Derivative of U.S. military culture:
> > Newly-inducted sailors based in San Diego in the '60s would
> > frequently buy an inexpensive two-stroke motorcyle for
> > transportation while on shore, whether they'd ever ridden before or
> > not. So, there were large numbers of unprotected, inexperienced
> > "marine life" squirting through traffic in a hurry and leaving a
> > trail of black "ink" (smoke) behind them.
> >
> > Based on similarity between the way a "squid" rides and an actual
> > squid swims.
> > Squids can appear unable to change direction while swimming without
> > first coming to a near complete stop. However, once the squid does
> > stop and change directions, it can very quickly accelerate back to
> > its regular swimming speed. Beginning motorcyclists (especially
> > sport bikeriders) commonly have trouble negotiating turns, and must
> > slow down to unnecessarily slow speed, while at the same time have
> > a tendency to ride very fast on the straight sections of the road.
> > Often young, squids are identified by their reckless abandon
> > (speeding, wheelies, stoppies etc.) and by their inappropriate
> > attire (shorts, backwards ball caps, flip flops, wifebeater T-
> > shirt, etc). Such a rider eschews all or most of the protective
> > gear worn by many riders (helmet, gloves, leather jacket, riding
> > pants, and boots) and the social and legal norms of riding
> > behaviour, and as such is looked upon with derision by experienced
> > motorcyclists, who also refer to them as "organ donors", "Zip-
> > Splats", "a Stillie", "Skin Crayons", "Sausage Creatures"<1> and
> > "soon-to-be-ex-motorcyclists".
> >
> >
> > I love the internet...
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jonassaint@xxxxxx
> > Cc: vfr@xxxxxx
> > Sent: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 8:13 AM
> > Subject: squids - dumb questions
> >
> > What is the meaning and derivative of "Squids", in the street
> > bike, acting a fool sense?
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>Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 11:56:29 -0500
>From: Joe Cargal
>Subject: Re: squids - dumb questions
>To: vfr@xxxxxx
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>Now *that* is a great post.
>
>I resembled a Zip-Splat once upon a time :D
>
>---- Original message ----
> >Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 11:39:05 -0500
> >From: bktobk3233@xxxxxx
> >Subject: Re: squids - dumb questions
> >To: jonassaint@xxxxxx
> >Cc:
> >
> > And yet more...
> >
> >
> > Derivative of U.S. military culture:
> > * Newly-inducted sailors based in San Diego in the
> > '60s would frequently buy an inexpensive
> > two-stroke motorcyle for transportation while on
> > shore, whether they'd ever ridden before or not.
> > So, there were large numbers of unprotected,
> > inexperienced "marine life" squirting through
> > traffic in a hurry and leaving a trail of black
> > "ink" (smoke) behind them.
> >
> > * Based on similarity between the way a "squid"
> > rides and an actual squid swims.
> > * Squids can appear unable to change direction
> > while swimming without first coming to a near
> > complete stop. However, once the squid does
> > stop and change directions, it can very
> > quickly accelerate back to its regular
> > swimming speed. Beginning motorcyclists
> > (especially sport bike riders) commonly have
> > trouble negotiating turns, and must slow down
> > to unnecessarily slow speed, while at the same
> > time have a tendency to ride very fast on the
> > straight sections of the road.
> > Often young, squids are identified by their
> > reckless abandon (speeding, wheelies, stoppies
> > etc.) and by their inappropriate attire (shorts,
> > backwards ball caps, flip flops, wifebeater
> > T-shirt, etc). Such a rider eschews all or most of
> > the protective gear worn by many riders (helmet,
> > gloves, leather jacket, riding pants, and boots)
> > and the social and legal norms of riding
> > behaviour, and as such is looked upon with
> > derision by experienced motorcyclists, who also
> > refer to them as "organ donors", "Zip-Splats", "a
> > Stillie", "Skin Crayons", "Sausage Creatures"<1>
> > and "soon-to-be-ex-motorcyclists".
> >
> >
> > I love the internet...
>______________________
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>Dalton GA
>Optilink account - web access only.
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>Message: 4
>Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 11:56:28 -0500
>From: bktobk3233@xxxxxx
>Subject: Re: squids - dumb questions
>To: jonassaint@xxxxxx
>Cc: vfr@xxxxxx
>Message-ID: <8C8E837C584B194-9D4-35EF@xxxxxx-R16.sysops.aol.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>I love the fact that I found this in an actual encyclopedia.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: jonassaint@xxxxxx
>To: bktobk3233@xxxxxx
>Cc: vfr@xxxxxx
>Sent: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 8:49 AM
>Subject: Re: squids - dumb questions
>
>
>Thanks! This was not only very informative but entertaining.
>
>
>
>
>On Dec 7, 2006, at 11:39 AM, bktobk3233@xxxxxx wrote:
>
>
>And yet more...
>
>
> Derivative of U.S. military culture:
>Newly-inducted sailors based in San Diego in the '60s would frequently buy
>an inexpensive two-stroke motorcyle for transportation while on shore,
>whether they'd ever ridden before or not. So, there were large numbers of
>unprotected, inexperienced "marine life" squirting through traffic in a
>hurry and leaving a trail of black "ink" (smoke) behind them.
>
>Based on similarity between the way a "squid" rides and an actual squid
>swims.
>Squids can appear unable to change direction while swimming without first
>coming to a near complete stop. However, once the squid does stop and
>change directions, it can very quickly accelerate back to its regular
>swimming speed. Beginning motorcyclists (especially sport bikeriders)
>commonly have trouble negotiating turns, and must slow down to
>unnecessarily slow speed, while at the same time have a tendency to ride
>very fast on the straight sections of the road.
>Often young, squids are identified by their reckless abandon (speeding,
>wheelies, stoppies etc.) and by their inappropriate attire (shorts,
>backwards ball caps, flip flops, wifebeater T-shirt, etc). Such a rider
>eschews all or most of the protective gear worn by many riders (helmet,
>gloves, leather jacket, riding pants, and boots) and the social and legal
>norms of riding behaviour, and as such is looked upon with derision by
>experienced motorcyclists, who also refer to them as "organ donors",
>"Zip-Splats", "a Stillie", "Skin Crayons", "Sausage Creatures"<1> and
>"soon-to-be-ex-motorcyclists".
>
>
>I love the internet...
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: jonassaint@xxxxxx
>Cc: vfr@xxxxxx
>Sent: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 8:13 AM
>Subject: squids - dumb questions
>
>
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I assume you found this in "Wikipedia", though a good source of information
not exactly a "Real" encyclopedia. It is written and edited by your
internet peers, not an actual educational publisher. Infact if you wanted
to you could set up an account and Edit that description of Squid to say
something totally different.

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I'd heard that the term came from the way so-described riders squirt their blood on the pavement similar to the way a squid squirts ink, but I sure like the Navy and Squirrely-Kid ideas better...

Rick S.

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Sorry about that, I didn't intend to repost the entire digest. Been a while
since I came out of lurk mode.

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http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=squid Try this
definition!



Denny



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Rick Schott
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 1:32 PM
To: vfr@xxxxxx
Subject: Re: squids - dumb questions



I'd heard that the term came from the way so-described riders squirt their
blood on the pavement similar to the way a squid squirts ink, but I sure
like the Navy and Squirrely-Kid ideas better...



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-----Chris Burgess noted -------------------
It is a wikipedia which is not an actual encyclopedia.
The statements
made in the wikipedia are generally fact due to the
large number of
eyes that get a chance to view and provide feedback
but not always.

-Chris
----------------snip------------------------

According to the American Heritage Dictionary:

en·cy·clo·pe·di·a
n. A comprehensive reference work containing
articles on a wide range of subjects or on numerous
aspects of a particular field, usually arranged
alphabetically.


Looks like Wikipedia qualifies as an encyclopedia.
It suffers the bias of it editors just like any other
encyclopedia. The problem is hard to know who the
editors are, therefore, it is hard to know what their
biases are.

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I stand corrected.

On 12/7/06, gordon burlison wrote:
> -----Chris Burgess noted -------------------
> It is a wikipedia which is not an actual encyclopedia.
> The statements
> made in the wikipedia are generally fact due to the
> large number of
> eyes that get a chance to view and provide feedback
> but not always.
>
> -Chris
> ----------------snip------------------------
>
> According to the American Heritage Dictionary:
>
> en·cy·clo·pe·di·a
> n. A comprehensive reference work containing
> articles on a wide range of subjects or on numerous
> aspects of a particular field, usually arranged
> alphabetically.
>
>
> Looks like Wikipedia qualifies as an encyclopedia.
> It suffers the bias of it editors just like any other
> encyclopedia. The problem is hard to know who the
> editors are, therefore, it is hard to know what their
> biases are.
>
> - Gordon
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>I love the fact that I found this (bias and
>fictitious opinion) in an (not) actual encyclopedia
>(that is based on my peers opinions and nothing else
>what so ever, even if it is mildly accurate and very
>entertaining).

Thanks for a good laugh at the end of a long day.

What I have observed regarding word origins, is that
it's easier and more common to create a meaning for a
term after the term has already been coined. The
Wikepedia entry regarding comparisons between the
motorcycling characteristics of sailors and the traits
of the actual ink-squirting sea creature smells like
pure post coinage BS to me.

Sailors have long been called squids. Young men, away
from home, with a steady, garnishable paycheck, find
it quite easy to buy a motorcycle. A sailor on a any
type of bike annoying any civilian by any one of the
many ways possible (crashing, speeding, wheelies, loud
pipes etc, etc,) near any navy base will be referred
with rancor as a squid. It was very easy to ID someone
as a sailor in the 60's and 70's because wearing the
uniform in public was more prevalent for a lot of
reasons. Others hear the story by the ticked-off
civilian as, 'some dumb squid on a m/c' and the
non-navy savvy public loses the nautical basis for the
reference and you end up with bad motorcyclists =
squids.

And if you don't like that reason, make up your own ;)

Regards,
A proud ex-squid! AKA: zoomie, tuber, flangehead,
grunt conveyor, monkey's mate, chief, but most of all,
effing nuc!
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Greg Verderber wrote:

>Regards,
>A proud ex-squid! AKA: zoomie, tuber, flangehead,
>grunt conveyor, monkey's mate, chief, but most of all,
>effing nuc!
>Former USN, MMC(SS)
>SSN-609
>SSBN-728
>
>
Oh gawd, a bubblehead lifer...

6 and out, thank you very much... but still an ex-squid. ;-)

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This place must be full of blueberry dixie cups.

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