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1. Givi (Quint A Marcaletti)
2. FW: Givi (Quint A Marcaletti)
3. RE:WTB: Givi luggage (frugalyankee-cycles@xxxxxx)
4. WTB: Givi Luggage (Mathew Roth)
5. RE: vfr Digest, Vol 36, Issue 25 (Quint A Marcaletti)
6. Re: vfr Digest, Vol 36, Issue 25 (Fred Wills)
7. RE: WTB: Givi luggage (Kirk)
8. RE: Givi (Kirk)
9. RE: Wheel repair was: RE: Where have I been all of VFR's
life? (Kirk)
10. Since we're on the luggage subject...what about OEM hard bags
and top box? (Kirk)
11. Re: FW: Givi (vic5491@xxxxxx)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:32:13 -0400
From: Quint A Marcaletti
Subject: Givi
To: "vic5491@xxxxxx"
Cc: "vfr@xxxxxx"
Message-ID: <20070322113213313.00000002928@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Generator Microsoft Word 11 (filtered) I have the E21 side bags and the 460
( I think that' s the number) top case.

Advice: Do not load the top trunk with anything of much weight. Keep that
as low as possible. Also, hope you have a stiffer than stock spring out
back, unless you are very light! Start loading the rear down and handling
goes to hell in a hurry. If not, adjusting preload fully up will help some.
Also, you will notice increased headshake/instability with additional rear
weight. Tapered head bearings help mine tremendously. If you get the top
trunk, I' d recommend the brake-light kit as well. because the standard
brake light gets sort-of hidden between the luggage. Anything bigger than
the e21 side cases starts getting a bit unwieldy and ugly, IMO.

The Givi luggage is awesome for water-proof storage that' s easily removed,
and installed. Its durable, and lockable. I love it.
QAM
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:33:03 -0400
From: Quint A Marcaletti
Subject: FW: Givi
To: "vic5491@xxxxxx"
Cc: "vfr@xxxxxx"
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I have the E21 side bags and the 460 ( I think that's the number) top
case.?
?
Advice:? Do not load the top trunk with anything of much weight.? Keep that
as low as possible.? Also, hope you have a stiffer than stock spring out
back, unless you are very light!? Start loading the rear down and handling
goes to hell in a hurry.? If not, adjusting preload fully up will help
some.? Also, you will notice increased headshake/instability with
additional rear weight.? Tapered head bearings help mine tremendously.? If
you get the top trunk, I'd recommend the brake-light kit as well.because
the standard brake light gets sort-of hidden between the luggage.?
?Anything bigger than the e21 side cases starts getting a bit unwieldy and
ugly, IMO.
?
The Givi luggage is awesome for water-proof storage that's easily removed,
and installed.? Its durable, and lockable.? I love it.
QAM




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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 08:34:51 -0700 (PDT)
From:
Subject: RE:WTB: Givi luggage
To: vfr800 vfr800
Message-ID: <400462.43588.qm@xxxxxx>
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Have used the RKA soft system (saddle & tank)since I got mine in '99.
Yearly tours from CT. to New Hampshire have worked out very well. Easy to
mount & remove, holds alot and have been very gentle on the bike over the
years (nothing broken or scratched). They ride much lower than the hardbag
systems. Requires a suspension adjustment (shock spring preload and
damping) when loaded up to keep proper front end feel.

Brad
CT.
99 VFR
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:37:40 -0400
From: "Mathew Roth"
Subject: WTB: Givi Luggage
To:
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I have two Givi E360 momokey cases and SWMotech removeable rack from
twistedthrottle.com. I bought the cases used. I like them, though they
will get heavy with pillion and fully loaded--need to set the preload
appropriately and adust the shock to suit fully loaded riding.

That said, I prefer to travel light for long trips...I go with what John
(In LA) Alexander says, one change of major clothes, at least two extra
pair of socks and underwear (just in case), and a full set of outerwear
for ALL likely conditions (mountains get cold in the summer even). I
prefer a small two-person tent to a bivy bag as well and you can make a
homemade alcahol stove out of a pepsi can if you need to...

Always check out the lightweight backpacking sights if you want to
reduce what you bring yet still have what you need...

BTW the SWMotech rack is beefy, but I haven't put enough miles on it to
see if it holds up better than the Givi or not...maybe at one of the VFR
rally's I can compare racks...

Matt Roth
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:42:53 -0400
From: Quint A Marcaletti
Subject: RE: vfr Digest, Vol 36, Issue 25
To: "vfr@xxxxxx"
Message-ID: <20070322114253173.00000002928@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii



John wrote:

"Wash it out at night, it's dry in the morning. And off we go."

John...that might happen in LA where its nice and dry....Out east, we have
to deal with humidity. Wash a t-shirt out in a sink on a summer day, and 2
days later, its still damp...and moldy! Then you have to pack your damp and
moldy shirt in with the rest of your luggage and get it moldy. It sux!!
An air-conditioned hotel room will help to dry those clothes, but not much.

QAM
2000VFR



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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 12:01:06 -0400
From: Fred Wills
Subject: Re: vfr Digest, Vol 36, Issue 25
To: "quint.marcaletti@xxxxxx"
Cc: "vfr@xxxxxx"
Message-ID: <4602A842.2070804@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Quint A Marcaletti wrote:

>John wrote:
>
>"Wash it out at night, it's dry in the morning. And off we go."
>
>John...that might happen in LA where its nice and dry....Out east, we have
to deal with humidity. Wash a t-shirt out in a sink on a summer day, and 2
days later, its still damp...and moldy! Then you have to pack your damp and
moldy shirt in with the rest of your luggage and get it moldy. It sux!!
An air-conditioned hotel room will help to dry those clothes, but not much.
>
>
>
>
Quint,

One word for you: Plastics.

Get the polypropelene tee-shirts, underwear, etc. Dry much faster and
give more comfort in hot conditions as it wicks moisture better than
natural cotton fiber.

And to allow just a tad of thread drift, here's a tip that I "recycled"
from my human-powered cycling days:
I highly recommend the use of lycra/spandex bicycling shorts in lieu of
your regular BVDs, especially for longer trips.
They are way more comfortable in the saddle and can easily be hand
washed in the evening and be ready for re-wear the next day. They can
be bought with various padding materials including gel inserts, or plain
with no "chamois" at all if you prefer.

--

-Fred W

'98 Honda VFR800Fi SPORTtourer
'01 Kawi Concours sportTOURER
'05 Yammi FJR1300 SPORTTOURER



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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:06:07 -0500
From: "Kirk"
Subject: RE: WTB: Givi luggage
To: , "'vfr800 vfr800'"

Message-ID: <003101c76c9c$0545b1a0$0300a8c0@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Which RKA bags are you using, and did you need anything special to
add/attach them?

Tks,

Kirk
Texas
1997 VFR

-----Original Message-----
From: vfr-bounces@xxxxxx [mailto:vfr-bounces@xxxxxx] On Behalf
Of frugalyankee-cycles@xxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 10:35 AM
To: vfr800 vfr800
Subject: RE:WTB: Givi luggage


Have used the RKA soft system (saddle & tank)since I got mine in '99.
Yearly tours from CT. to New Hampshire have worked out very well. Easy
to mount & remove, holds alot and have been very gentle on the bike over
the years (nothing broken or scratched). They ride much lower than the
hardbag systems. Requires a suspension adjustment (shock spring preload
and damping) when loaded up to keep proper front end feel.

Brad
CT.
99 VFR

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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:08:50 -0500
From: "Kirk"
Subject: RE: Givi
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Man, you guys are starting to scare me now with this top trunk weight
issue. That is something I would have never thought of? Geez It's whole
new ay of thinking. In that case, I would really like to know what all
of the options are.

Kirk
Texas
1997 VFR

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From: vfr-bounces@xxxxxx [mailto:vfr-bounces@xxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Quint A Marcaletti
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 10:32 AM
To: vic5491@xxxxxx
Cc: vfr@xxxxxx
Subject: Givi



I have the E21 side bags and the 460 ( I think that's the number) top
case.



Advice: Do not load the top trunk with anything of much weight. Keep
that as low as possible. Also, hope you have a stiffer than stock
spring out back, unless you are very light! Start loading the rear down
and handling goes to hell in a hurry. If not, adjusting preload fully
up will help some. Also, you will notice increased
headshake/instability with additional rear weight. Tapered head
bearings help mine tremendously. If you get the top trunk, I'd
recommend the brake-light kit as well.because the standard brake light
gets sort-of hidden between the luggage. Anything bigger than the e21
side cases starts getting a bit unwieldy and ugly, IMO.



The Givi luggage is awesome for water-proof storage that's easily
removed, and installed. Its durable, and lockable. I love it.

QAM

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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:12:40 -0500
From: "Kirk"
Subject: RE: Wheel repair was: RE: Where have I been all of VFR's
life?
To: "'Mathew Roth'" ,
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6 weeks!!! NO!! Please no!! Not now! I wanna ride! I don't think mine is
that bad, but will soon find out. Thanks for all of the info folks!

Kirk
Texas
1997 VFR

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From: Mathew Roth [mailto:mroth@xxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:23 AM
To: vfr@xxxxxx
Cc: kirk.allen@xxxxxx
Subject: Wheel repair was: RE: Where have I been all of VFR's life?



These guys fixed my rear wheel:
www.framestraightsystem.com
I've also talked to these guys as well:
http://www.mcwheel.com/ and they have a good rep too.
Drawback is you have to send your wheel (sans tire) to them to get it
fixed and sometimes (like now - Spring) the turnaround is long (4-6
weeks).

Try to find a wheel repair place locally.
These guys in Cali repair wheels, but not moto-specific.however they'll
chrome it for you too!!!
http://www.pppwheels.com/about_us.htm

These guys are in Napa and do work on wheels and frames--Moto specific..

http://gpframeandwheel.com/services.html

If you look around enough I'd bet you can find someone who can do the
work.Best of luck.
BTW have you double-checked that the Tire is not the problem? My rear
was bent very badly, but it still held air on the bead. the front is
still bent, but not enough for me to worry about it too much--however,
the tires held air and I hit a very big pothole.might be worth getting
out some soapy water and see what bubbles up just to be sure your
sidewall of the tire is crap.safety issue possibly

Just my 2cents.
Matt Roth
1999 VFR800
2000 SV650 trackday bike.Wayne Beaver is my Hero!

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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:19:33 -0500
From: "Kirk"
Subject: Since we're on the luggage subject...what about OEM hard bags
and top box?
To: "Vfr@xxxxxx Wisc. Edu"
Message-ID: <005401c76c9d$e6540600$0300a8c0@xxxxxx>
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I have seen Viffers in that past with what I have always presumed to be
Honda OEM hard bags, that match the color of the bike. (mostly red) If
Honda did make hard bags for them, was it only for certain years? Are
they still available? What's the dealy?

Thanks,

Kirk
Texas
1997 VFR



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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 09:24:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: "vic5491@xxxxxx"
Subject: Re: FW: Givi
To: "quint.marcaletti@xxxxxx"
Cc: "vfr@xxxxxx"
Message-ID: <108222.13791.qm@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Thanks for the input Quint! I do appreciate it. I have the stock shock
and spring and I am not light (210 lbs) and I definately do not want to
compromise handling. I'll keep an eye on all of these issues.

Vic

Quint A Marcaletti wrote:



I have the E21 side bags and the 460 ( I think that's the number) top case.


Advice: Do not load the top trunk with anything of much weight. Keep that
as low as possible. Also, hope you have a stiffer than stock spring out
back, unless you are very light! Start loading the rear down and handling
goes to hell in a hurry. If not, adjusting preload fully up will help
some. Also, you will notice increased headshake/instability with
additional rear weight. Tapered head bearings help mine tremendously. If
you get the top trunk, I'd recommend the brake-light kit as well.because
the standard brake light gets sort-of hidden between the luggage.
Anything bigger than the e21 side cases starts getting a bit unwieldy and
ugly, IMO.

The Givi luggage is awesome for water-proof storage that's easily removed,
and installed. Its durable, and lockable. I love it.
QAM




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On Sat March 24 2007 6:07 am, adam.roscoe@xxxxxx wrote:
> I have sold my VFR - please unsubscribe me.
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> A

send the request to your mother.

I am sure she will be happy to take care of your responsibilities for you.

She is probably accustomed to it by now.

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> On Sat March 24 2007 6:07 am, adam.roscoe@xxxxxx wrote:
>> I have sold my VFR - please unsubscribe me.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> A
>
> send the request to your mother.
>
> I am sure she will be happy to take care of your responsibilities for you.
>
> She is probably accustomed to it by now.
>
> --
>
> Jerry
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> Give our Constitution to iraq. They need one and we aren't using ours.
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Adam, asking the list to unsubscribe you will certainly lead to a sentence similar to that given Sisyphus. (see Sisyphus in Websters New World Dictionary if you are not familiar with the tale.) To avoid this, go to https://lists.cs.wisc.edu/mailman/listinfo/vfr
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> On Sat March 24 2007 6:07 am, adam.roscoe@xxxxxx wrote:
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