RE: [SPAM] RE: Givi vs Ventura

Wait a minute! Before you go, will somebody please post a photo and/or
link of this Ventura thingy majingy setup. I have really enjoyed reading
the debates, but I sure would like to know what you are talking about,
being new to the VFR world et'all. Thank yee. :-)

Kirk
Luchenbach, Texas

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Subject: [SPAM] RE: Givi vs Ventura



Thanks all, for your replies.
I think for now I'll keep the Givi.
The faults I find with it are not directly related to the box itself,
and it does everything I need it to do.
I should really take the money and concentrate on getting my Vmax back
on the road.



Paul in SoCal




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Paul,

I have used trunks on several bikes (my current travel bike is an 06
Triumph Tiger with the factory hard bags and top case) and I have used
the Ventura set up on a VFR800. The Ventura is pretty good, but I much
prefer a locking trunk. The trunk is more secure, faster to access,
easier to find things in, waterproof without messing with rain covers or
garbage bag liners, and most trunks are easier to remove from the bike
than the Ventura bags when loaded, if you use both the Ventura straps
and the zipper. For short trips, the trunk is just more secure and
convenient. For trips, if you have more stuff that will fit in the two
Ventura bags and don't have saddle bags, then adding that stuff gets to
be an issue. With a trunk, you still have the passenger seat and the
top of the trunk available for adding extra stuff. Now granted, that is
a lot of stuff to haul. My two Ventura's carried me through a week long
trip including carrying clothes, extra gloves, Widder electrics, a one
gallon insulated water jug, first aid kit, and tool roll. But I was
credit card camping and there was no room left on the bike to pack a
sleeping bag, mattress, or tent. If I had been using a trunk, I could
have carried everything and still had room to strap a bag, mattress, and
tent on the seat. I would keep the 46L GIVI.

FWIW, YMMV,
John Harrison
Birmingham

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On Saturday 21Apr, 2007, at 9:26 PM, Kirk wrote:
> Wait a minute! Before you go, will somebody please post a photo and/
> or link of this Ventura thingy majingy setup. I have really enjoyed
> reading the debates, but I sure would like to know what you are
> talking about, being new to the VFR world et'all. Thank yee. :-)
>
> Kirk
> Luchenbach, Texas

Check out these posts (from a road trip I was on last year; the woman
is one of my older sisters).

A couple of views of the setup loaded: Ventura pack turned towards
the front, with my sleeping bag, tent, and groundcloth/bluetarp
strapped to the package rack:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...&postcount=193

Second photo from the bottom shows the other side:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...&postcount=206

This shows the setup unleaded. The Ventura pack slides over the big
hoop, and has a buckle setup that loops around the first rack rail
and clips back to itself for security:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...3&postcount=63

So, you can see how you can get weight up pretty high and far back
pretty quickly with a setup like this. That's the biggest
disadvantage, right after the limited capacity when compared to a 3
hard-case setup. I'm happy with it for now though. If nothing else,
it forces me to pack less crap, which is a good discipline.

later,
Johnj


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