Re: vfr Digest, Vol 38, Issue 21

Vic
I am originally from vancouver but now live in the interior of BC. I am familiar with hotels and skytrain routes. The seabus is also a fun inexpensive trip across the inlet to north vancouver. I will do some digging and get back to u with some options.
Mike

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1. RE: Vstrom experience anyone? (Tim Moore)
2. Re: RE: Vstrom experience anyone? (Josh Miller)
3. Vancouver, BC lodging question (vic5491@xxxxxx)
4. RE: Vstrom experience anyone? (JES_VFR)
5. Re: COTU '07 - Who's going? (solacem@xxxxxx)
6. Throttle Body Removal Question (Mick McHam)
7. Gas Tank Draining - 5th Gen (Mick McHam)
8. Re: Gas Tank Draining - 5th Gen (Steve "Spider" Enfield)
9. Re: Gas Tank Draining - 5th Gen (info.rockies@xxxxxx)
10. Re: Gas Tank Draining - 5th Gen (Randy Blass)
11. RE: Vstrom experience anyone? (Mark Huth)
12. FS - 1998 VFR - NE Indiana (Ed Kokosa)
13. NVFRC NMC Hey NYC area Listers (playit loud)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 08:02:29 -0500
From: "Tim Moore"
Subject: RE: Vstrom experience anyone?
To: "VFR List"
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I just did the switch from a 2001 VFR to a 650 Vstrom for kind of the same
reasons as you. I couldn't be happier with the switch. The little Strom will
definitely hang with lots of sport bikes in the twisty stuff and this bike
is so comfortable. The 650 motor is a sweet little bullet proof motor. It
may not have the power of the VFR or the big Strom but I am never lacking
for power. If you ride two up a lot the big Vstrom may be a better choice
but don't eliminate the 650. There are folks that have switched from the big
Vstrom to the Wee Strom. Check out www.stromtrooper.com I got a new left
over 2006 650 Vstrom for a great price. I did add a Wilburs rear spring and
installed Sonic Springs in the front. That only set me back $225 and I am
really happy, the bike handles like it is on rails. (original suspension is
undersprung for my weight). An Alaska Leather seat pad makes the stock seat
extremely comfortable. I travel light so I got a tank bag and tail bag and
am ready for my longer trips. I originally thought I wanted the big Vstrom
but after all my research I am glad I got the 650. It is more refined,
lighter, cheaper to insure and operate, better in the twisty roads. You
can't go wrong with either Vstrom. They are fun bikes and I love to embarass
sport bikes in the twisty roads.

Regards, Tim



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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 08:19:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: Josh Miller
Subject: Re: RE: Vstrom experience anyone?
To: vfr@xxxxxx
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Thanks for everyone's input.

I was considering the V-strom because of the more upright riding position, the sweet (996) motor from the TL1000, and (if one considers the on-line forums and bike magazines) reports that they handle in a reasonably sporty fashion after a little work on the suspension. I don't intend on going off-road so it's dirt abilities are not really a concern. I guess it's seems (by reputation at least) to be a pretty comfortable, fast (enough,) all around street bike. In addition, I can get a used DL1000 for not much more than what I could sell my VFR for. I got married a year ago and the wife is talking baby-makin' so a new bike in not in the forseeable future.

I definitely am not interested in the V-Strom because of the whole "adventure-tourer" fad. If I was into obtaining specific bikes for the poser/bling value I would have bought a GSXR 1000 and not a '99 VFR. And yes, the V-strom's are ugly but it's good ugly.

I wouldn't really be interested in the SV1000 because I've sat on one of those numerous times and the position doesn't really seem to be much different than my VFR. I love my VFR and if I exchange it for something else, it'll have to be a pretty significant comfort upgrade.


Joshua Miller
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 12:00:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: "vic5491@xxxxxx"
Subject: Vancouver, BC lodging question
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I am going to be in Vancouver mid June on a bike trip and need help finding reasonable lodging for my daughter and myself. We will be in Vancouver for two nights and one day. Hotels right downtown with secure parking are very expensive. What are our options? For instance, is it possible to stay outside of Vancouver at a more reasonably priced motel (that is safe for both us and the bike) that is on public transportation so we can leave the bike there and catch a bus or rail into Vancouver for sightseeing? If so, or if any of you have other recommendations, I am all ears. I have not found a reasonable solution to this dilemma and hope some of you can help.

Thanks,
Vic


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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 16:49:57 -0400
From: JES_VFR
Subject: RE: Vstrom experience anyone?
To: "Denny Fair" , vfr@xxxxxx
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At 08:50 AM 5/12/2007, you wrote:

>I actually feel better when in the "flexed" position that my VFR and VTR's
>require. I've been through Lumbar surgery and don't care to do it again but
>that day is fast approaching. I feel worse (have constant pain) when
>sitting more upright, especially when driving. Put me on ANY sport bike or
>more sport bike like sport tourer and I can go for longer distances with
>less discomfort resulting from lumbar disc problems.
>
>Denny

Yeah, pretty much the same here.
I have a leg loaded with shrapnel (also with a knee implant, a capped
femur and a pelvis with a permanent twist) to go with my back which
has three compression fractures. I can't sit on any feet forward
cruiser or standard for more than five minutes without it hurting a
lot. Add in that I had both my hands done for Carpal Tunnel back in
2001 and you can see that I really don't want to fold up too much on
a sportbike either.
So that leaves me with SPORTtouring bikes. The VFR, the vtr and even
the TL's and SV's suit me pretty well. I can ride them for hours at a
time and get off without any issue.
Now I'm sure that my daily routine has contributed to this level of
comfort over distance, but the bike has always fit me pretty well.

I may not be the fastest or the smoothest or the most stylish rider
out there, but I can go the distance on the VFR in enough comfort to
arrive at any destination in realtively good shape.


JohnS
A Dragon Ascending
"Forging my body in the Fires of my Will"



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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 16:43:03 -0500
From: solacem@xxxxxx
Subject: Re: COTU '07 - Who's going?
To: vfr@xxxxxx
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I'll be there, but on Saturday afternoon/evening.? I'm riding over after I work on Saturday.? I hope everyone got hotel reservations set up okay.? I've been so busy lately I never called the hotel to see if all was well.? Will try that this coming week.

If anyone wants to ride towards Columbus on Saturday and needs anything call me at the shop.? We close at 3:00 and I'll try to get rolling by 4:00.? Will take some backroads to Cambridge and meet you all for dinner.

Oh, I have Sunday and Monday off so does anyone plan on riding all day Sunday and spending Sunday night out somewhere?? Would like to do that if I can find someone (probably you East-Coasters) to ride with.

Later,

M

On Tue, 1 May 2007 11:08:11 EDT, DSoloBF wrote
> Last year COTU was sparsely attended , but this year it is being held the weekend after mothers day, and? in a new location.
>
> So who's planning on going?
>
> curious -
> Dave S
> Michigan
> '92 VFR750F blue and silver
> '00 SV650 track bike - colors vary.. ..
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 21:28:59 -0500
From: "Mick McHam"
Subject: Throttle Body Removal Question
To: "VFR List \(Post\)"
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I'm trying to get to my fuel injectors. I've got the airbox completely off
(quite a chore). I was able to confirm that the injector elecrical
connections are on good and tight. Next step (should I chose to proceed) is
to remove the throttle body and do a resistance check of the #1 FI. How much
of a pain is the throttle body to take off? Are there any gotchas that I
should be aware of?
__________________________
Mick McHam Houston, TX
'01 ST1100 ABS, STOC# 1134
'00 VFR800FI
http://www.hal-pc.org/~mmcham




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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 21:35:03 -0500
From: "Mick McHam"
Subject: Gas Tank Draining - 5th Gen
To: "VFR List \(Post\)"
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I'm doing some work that has required me to move the gas tank aside. Before
doing so, I siphoned as much gas out of my tank as I could. I now find that
I will need to completely remove the gas lines from the tank but there is
still some gas left. What is your method for draining the last bit? I don't
want to start disconnecting then have gas go everywhere.
__________________________
Mick McHam Houston, TX
'01 ST1100 ABS, STOC# 1134
'00 VFR800FI
http://www.hal-pc.org/~mmcham



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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 12:37:23 +1000
From: "Steve \"Spider\" Enfield"
Subject: Re: Gas Tank Draining - 5th Gen
To: "Mick McHam" , "VFR List \(Post\)"

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No tap?
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Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 12:35 PM
Subject: Gas Tank Draining - 5th Gen


> I'm doing some work that has required me to move the gas tank aside.
> Before
> doing so, I siphoned as much gas out of my tank as I could. I now find
> that
> I will need to completely remove the gas lines from the tank but there is
> still some gas left. What is your method for draining the last bit? I
> don't
> want to start disconnecting then have gas go everywhere.
> __________________________
> Mick McHam Houston, TX
> '01 ST1100 ABS, STOC# 1134
> '00 VFR800FI
> http://www.hal-pc.org/~mmcham
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 03:45:57 +0000
From: info.rockies@xxxxxx
Subject: Re: Gas Tank Draining - 5th Gen
To: "Mick McHam" , "VFR List (Post)"

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-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Mick McHam"
> I'm doing some work that has required me to move the gas tank aside. Before
> doing so, I siphoned as much gas out of my tank as I could. I now find that
> I will need to completely remove the gas lines from the tank but there is
> still some gas left. What is your method for draining the last bit? I don't
> want to start disconnecting then have gas go everywhere.

I just completely remove the tank - hold it upside down, and remove the lines (sounds like you may have already removed them) then once off, place the line into a jerry can, and then turn tank upright and tilt the tank until you get all the gas out. Popping the cap open can help vent a little better. It's pretty hard not to spill a little though, must admit.

Cheers,
Randy F
'98 VFR
Portland OR

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> '00 VFR800FI
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 23:09:36 -0500
From: "Randy Blass"
Subject: Re: Gas Tank Draining - 5th Gen
To: "Mick McHam" , "VFR List \(Post\)"

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I seem to remember using golf tees to plug the lines.

Randy Blass

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mick McHam"
To: "VFR List (Post)"
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 9:35 PM
Subject: Gas Tank Draining - 5th Gen


> I'm doing some work that has required me to move the gas tank aside.
> Before
> doing so, I siphoned as much gas out of my tank as I could. I now find
> that
> I will need to completely remove the gas lines from the tank but there is
> still some gas left. What is your method for draining the last bit? I
> don't
> want to start disconnecting then have gas go everywhere.
> __________________________
> Mick McHam Houston, TX
> '01 ST1100 ABS, STOC# 1134
> '00 VFR800FI
> http://www.hal-pc.org/~mmcham
>
> _______________________________________________
> vfr mailing list
> vfr@xxxxxx
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 23:24:02 -0500
From: Mark Huth
Subject: RE: Vstrom experience anyone?
To:
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Josh,

Not to give free medical advice over the internet, but you're not alone. I treat lots of back strain just like you're describing in my work in Family Medicine with a particular interest in Sports Medicine. Athletes and non-athletes often describe this back spasm or burning.

Occasionally, this can be due to structural problems, either things you're born with or things you acquire (like changes in bone after fracture or with arthritis). Many times, it is an accumulation of reduced range of motion and strength over time.

In a great number of cases, accurate diagnosis plus a plan to reduce tension and regain strength and range of motion will do wonders. If you've been able to ride your VFR without pain until the recent past, don't be so quick to give it up (if you love riding it, like most of us do.) You may be able to ride without pain through physical therapy, home exercises, acupuncture and/or chiropractic care.

Obviously, I can't diagnose you via listserv. However, get in to see a qualified doctor if you think you may be able to regain a healthy back and stay on the saddle of your VFR.

(Also, there's no saying that riding anything won't result in pain once your back is in spasm - - - sorry to say.)

Just my .02 worth.

Mark


Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 14:29:25 -0700From: joshuajmiller@xxxxxxubject: Vstrom experience anyone?To: vfr@xxxxxx
So, I love my VFR but apparently my advancing age-related decreptitude is not gong to allow me to keep it much longer. My lower back starts to burn/get stiff after about an hour in the saddle. I end up thinking about my back and managing my discomfort the whole time and can't relax/enjoy the ride like I should. So either I need to take up a serious stretching or yoga program to limber up or get a bike with a more upright seating position.

I've been thinking about switching to a DL1000 V-strom to take advantage of the comfort but I'm concerned I won't enjoy it as much from a sporting aspect.

Does anyone have experience with a V-strom and can compare it to a VFR?
Joshua Miller joshuajmiller@xxxxxx


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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 10:09:04 -0400
From: "Ed Kokosa"
Subject: FS - 1998 VFR - NE Indiana
To:
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Nope, not mine, but saw the following in Saturday's classified's:

1998, Red, great shape, 27,000 miles, $3,800



I don't know anything more, be glad to help.

Contact me directly for seller's phone number.

Ed

Fort Wayne, IN

COTU8

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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 08:31:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: playit loud
Subject: NVFRC NMC Hey NYC area Listers
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Hey yall,

My band is gonna be playin at Ottos Srunken head
tonight.

The band:
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The place:
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538 East 14th St.
NYC 10009
212-228-2240

Latuh
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99vfr



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