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  1. OOTV

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    Right now the route is clear. There is a fire near 15 and 76 but you could easily avoid that area and still get to your destination. Although the way these fires are just popping up at will, check the news while you’re in So Cal, as there will most likely be updates and new reports. Have fun and good luck.
     
  2. Lint

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    No fires en route that I know of, let me look.
     
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    Tragic indeed. Prayers sent. Where there's fuel, oxygen, and a heat source, there will be a fire. I know what tragedy is like having been through 7 hurricanes, the last one while in the Gulf of Mexico in the middle of the damned thing. I only know of one place that's safe from everything.
     
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    Now I am going to get a deluge of people wanting to come to my place. Thanks man!

    I am just wondering. Astounding as that may seem. If as much money was spent on preventative measures as they spend on fighting the fires, would there be a substantial difference.

    The millions upon millions in man-hours and equipment being spent would certainly pay for an awful lot of jobs for people starving for work, to go up into the hills and fields and clear away all the dead vegetation that is just sitting there waiting to fuel the fire. Understood, this is only part of the problem but I do believe it is a big part. Especially in dense built up areas. It would not surprise me that the cost of these present fires reaches a couple billion if firefighting efforts, as well as loss of property.
     
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    We do have laws or regulations about keeping vegatation away from homes, but when you have 50, 60 & 70 mph winds blowing the embers miles, very difficult to control. People have to be wiser in their choices of building and roofing materials to. One big problem was we had alot of rain last year and vegetation flourished. No rain since then and it all has dried out creating the fuel. We have programs around here to plow vacant fields in urban area to create fire breaks, but when the embers are really flying, impossible to stop. At the start of the big Ventura fire, they said it was spreading at the rate of one football field per second! I was watching arial coverage of the big fire, entire side of lage hill was burning, then I noticed this little spec on the screen, it was a helicopter dropping water! Seemed futile.
     
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    I think you're right on.
     
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    You are talking about 100s & 100s of thousands of acres of dried brush, plus the natural forests. It has to start with people clearing conbustible material away from their own property, which alot don’t.
     
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    Sounds like a great community service project for all those sh1theads who like to drink and drive (among others)...
     
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    All clear along Big Tujunga Canyon, Angeles Forest, and Soledad today.
    Little TJ was open for about a month, now closed again.
    Well, there was some crazy thunder in a tunnel, then a gust of wind blew the bike off line, but fixed the camera aim. :D

     
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    Man that is really bad with near hurricane force winds fanning the fires. I'll take the hurricanes any day over this kind of natural disaster.
     
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    Far side - fish bowl fire.jpg
     
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    Gary Larson/The Far Side was Great!!! :D
     
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    Six Flags Magic Mountain
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    Notice the state of all the vegetation around those people. That would all go up in flames instantly. Multiply that by an entire mountain.

    Here in our area, the standard used to be 30 ft cleared. Now it's up to 100 ft. Most people just won't clear out to 100 ft., but I heard from a number of folks who did, that their homes were OK in our massive fire. Then you see footage of areas like Coffey Park with blocks that are completely destroyed, yet a single house gets left intact on the block. Fire is just a living thing that gets out of control quickly. My heart truly goes out to everyone affected down South. We know exactly how you feel.

    Jose
     
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    Don't burn Six Flags Magic Mountain!
    They have the best coasters.
     
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    Red Flag Warning got extended again, until Friday. But, it's supposed to be breezy until some time next week. Right now the weather guessers are saying rain in about ten days... We'll see.
     
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    Hasn't been very windy here so far this week. But I'm not in a high wind area. :Noidea:
    Hopefully they can get these fires contained, then out.
     
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    Right now it is 3% humidity. That's lower than the Mojave in the summer. It is literally historic low humidity. That's why this area is burning so much. Everything is drying into fuel.
     
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    Fires are a scary thing with a life of their own.
    When conditions are right, nothing can stop them.
    Something we are very used to here in Australia.
    Some of the worst fires here were around towns or built up areas.
    The 2003 Canberra fires developed into a fire storm with hurricane force fire fronts, 40*C temps with 75kmh winds and single digit humidity was the starting point.
    A large pine forest next to suburbia was the setting for disaster.
    At its worst, they weren't getting ember atacks, but huge branches on fire being ripped of trees and blown at over 120kmh for a kilometer.
    The damage and loss of life was really bad.
    Victoria and South Australia have had worse.
    I had a friend here in Sydney who had a property at the edge of the Blue Mountains, he had done all the right things and cleared 100m around his house.
    When the fire came, the fire front was in a eucalipt forest at the top of the ridge at the edge of his propery, the temp was 46*C and 65kmh winds.
    He was watching thinking he would be fine, then his sheds, fruit trees and garden spontaneously combusted like someone had used TNT.
    The fire front was still 100m away, but the heat and wind with near zero humidity took everything in its path.
    Him and his family got in the car and made it to safety, but only just.
    Good luck to all, stay safe.
     
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