Yet another motorcycle factory closes.

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  1. mofo

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    As my Harley loving brother said,

    'Saw that. It is unfortunate for the employees.

    From a customer/harley enthusiast's perspective, I'm actually comfortable with Harley shrinking a tad bit. Too many people have bought them as an icon, and not so much to ride. Harley has gotten a little fat, prices have gone up too high and resale value has plunged due to over-saturation of the posers getting rid of their bikes after they figured out that riding wasn't their thing.'
     
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    And the whole "buy American" view is now being thrown out as a Harley is (depending on model) parts made in Japan, Korea, China ect. All the apparel I have seen is made in China or Vietnam.
     
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    Just a bit of a nitpick: the HD plant that is closing is in Kansas City, Missouri, not Kansas.
    I don't think it's too much of a surprise, they've been downsizing and laying off for several
    years.
     
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    Maybe sales are low because all the hard-core boomers are dying off—-


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    wonder if the new Goldwing is not going to help Harley as it looks to be a brilliant bike albeit miles out of price range
     
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    Baggers have always been expensive, and so have goldwings. I don't think the new wing will do anything for motorcycles in general.. but just sell more wings :D
     
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    Good clarification.
     
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    But Lint, every single one of those bikes is a "custom" bike.
     
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    Seeing there is only a $200 difference in the HD Ultra and Wing tour, which bike would you buy? The old joke "If Harley made an airplane would you fly it?" comes to mind.
     
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    I think that is the main reason. Harley has depended on biker wannabes and poseurs for many decades. They found that if they deviated much at all
    from the accepted bike models sales suffered. Witness the V-Rod, decent (for a Harley) bike, but just didn't look and sound like a Harley. Now they
    need to sell bikes to the next generation, and many young people don't want an "old person's" bike. They could end up like Moto Guzzi as a niche
    brand.
     
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    There is a slight difference between "Made in America" and "Built in America". There are so many products that are built (assembled) in America vice made (manufactured) in America. Ultimately, both usually require American workers, which means employment, which is the good part. The whole clothing made outside America thing I think is total BS! as most HD fanboys buy more HD apparel than any product loyalist I know! That whole supporting America thing gets thrown out the window here.
     
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    Could be a trend, for instance around here the only shop (oldest Yamaha dealer in Virginia) reasonably close shut it's doors last year. The local MX track closed too. You would have to travel over an hour to purchase a bottle of fork oil, if they even had any. Need a race suit or boots, forget it.

    Chain drive wallets, you can get plenty of those though ;-)

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    To bad Victory is gone, they were almost entirely made and built in America. Indian is really the only one now. And Motus but they are very expensive.
    I think the VFR's are still all Japanese.
     
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    I believe the plant was building the V-Rod, not very popular with Harley die hards.
     
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    At one time the Goldwing was built in the US but when I did a search about where its being built now, it looks like they moved production back to Japan. :(
     
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    That, a new generation that doesn't ride, and changed spending habits caused by the Obama / Bush "Great Recession". Money just doesn't flow as freely as it did in the mid 2000's and yes, the price of Harley's has gone over the top for too many people still hurt by power mongering social engineering, politicians. Harley also has competition, to some degree from Indian, who builds a better bike in some people's minds. Harley is not coming back to their heyday when people bought them because they were "a toy to have". Those days are over no matter what they do. Disposable income isn't as visible as it once was.
     
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    Obama did it. WTF is wrong with people.

    It happened because of economics, changing demographics, and the inability of the manufacturer to change with the times.
     
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    Trump :homer: visited a Harley factory in PA during the election, and when they offered him the chance to take a short ride, he refused. (Pussy :chicken: man !)

    So if he won't ride one...................:deadhorse:
     
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    There's no point in making something that does not sell.
    How long until Harley is just a clothing company? :D
     
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