PVC Pipe glue on abs fairings?

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    Has anyone ever used PVC pipe Glue (ABS pipe Solvent) to glue broken fairing pieces together? I think this may work.
     


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    No, but what I have done is used a course piece of sandpaper to rough up the inside of ABS plastic, then use some fiberglass to strengthen the crack. The boat repair kits at Autozone work fine. Then a bit of bondo to fill the crack, some sandpaper to smooth it all out, and you're ready to repaint it.
     


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    Use the pipe dope for ABS not PVC. The chem is right but that's about it. Better stuff at any major auto supply in syringes.

    Epoxy and polyester is not a good idea on ABS.

    Any body shop that is doing any biz has a plastic welder.

    If ya got major fix going, buy a book on how to and avoid the " miracle" shit.
     


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    I've had lasting results by using a soldering gun to weld the crack, then use the ABS medium body cement to lay a smooth layer over the weld. Of course this was on the back side of the fairing. The soldering gun and strips of scrap ABS, used as a filler rod, is really the only thing you need. I like using plastic epoxy for reinforcing broken tabs.
     


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    methylene chloride cement

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    Acrylic Adhesive SC-125
    Very thin methylene chloride and should be applied with a dropper or syringe. Exceptionally fast setting cement for acrylics

    Search Results | U.S. Plastic Corp.
     


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    Yes I have used PVC pipe glue. If it is fresh it works well. And I can do you one better. If you take a piece of pvc pipe and grind it to a powder on a belt sander, place this in a paper cup, ad the glue and stir till you have a paste you have great bondo for repairs to reinforce or even build up a damaged area. Smear this on the back of a crack to give it strenth. or smooth over the front and sand to shape. I used this to fix my wifes ninja last summer. I road her bike to work all this week. The repair still holds,and looks fine. But you must work fast, It sets up quick.
     


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    use ABS cement NOT pvc glue

    the fairings are ABS plastic
     


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    If using any of the above chemical compounds offends anyone, some flour and water and a little food coloring is a great fix. A couple of tricks. To secure a fix after the proper prep that includes removal of all the paint on both sides of a join and the scuffing to add tooth. A dab or two of gel "superglue" will hold the parts together well enough to go to the next step. Sticking to my story here. Epoxy and polyester are a mismatch when repairing ABS plastic. Methylene Chloride and Methyl Ethyl Ketone are both solvents for ABS. The black pipe dope from any hardware is already a mix of finely ground ABS and MEK. Fibreglass is the cloth. It can be used but not IMO with the Epoxy and polyester resins. Best IMO is a triaxial weave. Buildups can also be fabricated with ABS screenwire or even alumimum screenwire. Another chem mix that will work on ABS is one of the solvent type liquid paint removers from one of the big box stores. Use the liquid not the gel..Big mess.. Read the label and look for methylene chloride. That what works. Repaints is another whole can of worms. A couple of years down the road when some of the "painters" no longer show up here after shooting auto paint with not much more than a doorag or two Qtips up thier noses, we can assume they are somewhere shaking and quaking and drooling in thier oatmeal.
     


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    plastic welding is the only right way to fix IMO. When the miracle glue concoction of your choice breaks and you need to fix it the right way later (read plastic welding), you've just created more problems for yourself (i.e. plastic welding doesn't work where you've applied failed miracle cures).
     


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    +1, plastic welding.
     


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    "Those who do not know thier history tend to make shit up that sounds good."

    There are several excellent two component ABS plastic adhesives on the market. The solvents and the pipe dope will work.

    Temporary joining of the parts with superglue is handy dandy.

    Most of the failures by the members of the "hysterical" society are due to bad or slacker prep and for some reason thinking that all plastic (as noun) is the same "basic" stuff.

    Not too many moons ago. ABS was coded and the plastic rod used in then very pricy plastic welders had to match or it just broke. Bad or shitty prep even when plastic welding or guessing what else (or nothing else) is needed to fix these fairings is just asking for a failure.

    Someday some sharpie is gonna figure out a Lexan fairing and all the bad will go away.

    I wonder if my flour and water fix will work on carbon fibre?
     
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    Flour and water huh? How about some macaroni and gold paint? That'll work won't it?
     


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    Nothing to over-complicate... Go to a hobby shop like Michael's or Hobby Lobby, and get yourself some liquid acrylic. Mix 1:1, sets up quickly and bonds well. Very strong once cured and can be sanded, grinded, painted, etc. A small kit costs ~ $15.
     


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    Had a tech from a local shop today tell me he has had success replaceing tabs with a hot glue gun. Sounds crazy, and doesnt seem likely that there would be any strength to it, but who knows. I have a friend who does body work for a living that uses a product called fusor. says it works very well.
     


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    Darn right. Udon for Japanese fairings, fettucine for Italian bikes, God knows what the Brits eat for pasta but don't get busted with gold paint in your nostrils. ;)
     


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