getting cam timing correct

finally getting my hardfaced cams back into the vf500. using the Honda factory manual the TR mark is used and rear cylinder goes together smoothly. Now when doing the front cylinder the pictures in the manual look wrong when you view the cam sprocket bolts. Manual doesn't mention rotating crank away from TR mark so I assume front cams should go in without changing position. The exhaust cam however will not locate without it pushing down on the #2 exhaust follower. This means the cam cap has to tighten it into place. anyone done this recently and can confirm what i'm seeing.

 

I read it the same way. Manual states that you don't need to move off of TR to install both camshaft in both cylinder banks.
Piston 1 is at TDC @ TR?

Have you backed off all of the lash adjusters as it states to do?

It has been a LONG TIME since I have installed cams in a 84/85, but I definitely remember that I definitely did not enjoy it.

 

Having to tighten the cam caps against some valve spring tension is pretty standard in all of the cams that I have worked with.

 

yeah. #1 at TDC with TR mark lined up, all adjusters backed off but no way front exhaust cam will go without using cam cap to push down on #2 valves.

everything looks lined up as far as marks on cam sprockets with head surface.

 

I am pretty sure I remember having to compress a valve (or two) when installing cam caps, especially on a 84/85. The timing on the 86 much simpler.

Doesn't make me happy doing it. I remember in 1985 watching my friend snap something installing his 84 cams putting it back together after he floated the valves racing a hot rod Friday night cruising. Has always made me nervous even when I knew I was on the right track.

The 84 did not have a rev limiter. They could take a certain amount of abuse when the valve springs were new... a certain amount. He found the wrong amount... twice. In 1985 there wasn't much faster on a cruising night than a 500 Interceptor, stop light to stop light. That fucking truck was FAST AS SHIT. Think I remember it being a 55 or 56 Chevy.