RPM to start in First gear?

What RPM should you be at to get a smooth first gear start with out stalling and linear power? Not launching off the line. Just a smooth, confident start. I take off at 2-3K and it seem to lose it power by the time I let out the clutch. The clutch release is fairly slow and smooth while giving it a little gas. Should I be higher? 4-5k? 6-7?

Unfortunately I'm used to fourstroke dirtbikes and Harleys. I thought with the V-Four you don't have to wind them up first like a CBR.

 

I had that same problem with mine...but my problem was with the cluch and not the throttle...i adjusted the cluch lever position and it solved my problem...i start off at about 2500 rpms smooth now...but b4 i was starting at same rpm but stalling or chokin bike down

 

Hi. I think you might just be letting the clutch out all the way too soon. It seems to me that this hydraulic clutch setup, in the friction zone is more sensitive to pressure on the clutch lever than it is to actual position of the lever. I normally let the clutch out to just starting to grab, then get on the throttle a little bit, and then try to just feather the clutch out a little more as the rpm starts to rise and you start to take off. Letting the clutch out too soon though equals stall or that nasty lugging sound/feeling. I don't think the rpms need to be very high at all for a smooth take off. I get nervous trying to take off as i don't want the front wheel lifting up?

The viffer is quite a bit different than dirt bikes as 1st gear is noticeably higher geared than dirt bikes.

 

It isn't difficult to get it moving without going much above idle. Just start easing the clutch out and keep the RPM constant at idle speed with the throttle.

 

I don't think I have ever specifically looked what RPM I am doing at take off. I guess I listen and feel more. My goal is to give it enough gas, so it doesn't lug or bog down. Anything more than that, is usually not necessary for me.

 

Just like driving stick--smooth let out of clutch/smooth roll on of throttle. No real magic number.

 

Yeah, I've had a mustang, firebird and 1970 340 duster all with sticks. I usually can get the clutch so good I don't even touch the gas at all on everything else. I was just looking for a ballpark figure to see if 2-3k was not even powerful enough. I'm basically just trying to move the bike since I don't weight that much @ 140lbs.

I like to move with finesse. Not just power off everywhere.

Parking garages are a nightmare to keep a steady throttle.

I don't want to burn up the clutch.

I may have to start modding to get some low end grunt.

I've got the surging thing starting to happen also.

I plan to do the pair valve block-off, O2 elim, air filter and power commander. Do I need pipes to truly accomplish anything or will this be a good start.

Thanks for all your input.

 

I have found that if you try to pay attention to the rpm, you will make it worse.

 

I am with DerStuka. Um, I mean I always say the opposite! But seriously, I am with the other fellows like SCraig...there is no magic number needed. Just give it a bit more gas than the idle point, ease out the clutch so it doesn't bog down, and then fairly quickly shift into 2nd. Even I can do it!