Concealed Carry Weapon on bike

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  1. emptyskull

    emptyskull New Member

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    I wonder if you put slick 50 in squirt gun spray it on ground make car spin out like 007???:tongue:
     
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    I am Canadian and confused. I am going out for a ride with my pals, going to rip it up on some of my favorite roads and I feel the need to carry a weapon designed to kill humans. I am not tring to troll here just looking for clarification. I myself have considered getting a gun for the house to protect my loved ones but carrying it around with me.....when I am riding? Are things that bad down there? We have nice roads you all should come and visit you will not have to do so much packing.
     
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    Considering who's running your government, I'm not surprised. :)

    You don't carry a concealed firearm because you're going out to kill humans. Only an idiot would believe that.

    You carry a concealed firearm for personal protection.

    You carry it with you because it is impossible to predict when, where, or who might threaten your life or personal safety. Since you can't predict what may or may not happen, you must be prepared. If you don't believe that people should be allowed to carry concealed for their own personal protection, why don't you try your opinion on the family members of these three people:

    Police Hunt for Disgruntled Engineer Who Allegedly Massacred 3 at Office in California

    It is much better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.
     
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    You don't carry a tire repair kit hoping to get a flat tire. It's for just in case. Just like having insurance, but not planning to get into an accident.
     
  5. NAGA800

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    No need for slurs my American friend. You do have the right...people should be allowed... but I still am confused. Please be patient with me on this because I must have much to learn.

    If you are being fired upon by someone with a gun you want to be able to defend yourself by firing a gun back. If you carry a gun then you have evened the odds, force for force. The gun you hold does nothing to "protect you" form the incoming bullets it is a means to stop the attacker with bullets of your own.

    I guess I was shocked to hear that this is part of daily routine, get dressed, load gun, grab a coffee and off to work. It seems a heavy burden to have that fear over you. I wish things were different for you all.
     
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    People live in fear when they rely on others to protect them. People who do not rely on others do not live in fear, and there is no burden.

    Unless you live or often go into a very bad area, I'd say 99.9% of the people who carry do not expect to have to use it. A lot of people don't even carry for protection but rather believe that a right unexercised is a right lost.

    (not directed at anyone in particular)
    It is funny how people say they support people owning and carrying guns, but freak out when they find out they've worked with someone who has carried for years.
     
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    Handgun sales and concealed carry permit applications have been increasing rapidly. Shootings by lawful citizens have not. Lawful citizens don't purchase and carry a handgun so they can shoot people. They do so to exercise their right, and to take a proactive role in the protection of their family, self, community, and property.

    In direct contradiction to the direction in which this government is rapidly headed, more and more people are looking to take care of themselves instead of depending on the growing and ineffectual nanny state to do so.

    I own handguns and have a concealed carry permit. I don't care what anyone else thinks about me. I'm not the one they need to worry about.
     
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    I've had my permit for several years now. I've got a Glock 17 and a S&W model 60 in 357 mag. I've carried the Glock a few times and I always have the S&W with me in my truck. I've yet to carry on the VFR, however, this summer a friend and I are planning a trip to Deal's gap and I'm considering carrying the S&W, it's a bit smaller and I would think be easier to conceal while riding.
     
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    wdgah said it well. I own and carry expecting not to use my firearms, but there is comfort in knowing it's there if needed.

    As for not protecting yourself against incoming bullets.....true. But if you are lucky enough not to be the target of the first trigger pull, you are ready for the next. And anyone who understands the responsibility and carries is welcome to walk in the company of my family when I am not.

    The link provided is one of the most unfortunate circumstances. Employers, Campus rules, etc. keep law abiding citizens from exercising their 2A rights.

    We can all speculate as to how things would have been different at Virginia Tech in 2007, University of Iowa in 1991, or Virginia Appilachian School of Law in 2002. My opinion is

    The wolves come for the sheep where the sheepdogs aren;t allowed live.
     
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    Thanks for the explanations. I follow the logic and have a better understanding of your position. Wishing it were not so does not change anything. Be safe out there!
     
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    If in bear country, I carry bear spray. It has a good range and is extremely effective. 99.9% chance that a black bear is gonna run as soon as he sees you, or move away at least. One thing to keep in mind is, carrying in a national park is against the law. The weapon must be unloaded in a case, and/or and disassembled. If you were to fire on a bear and kill it, yes you would save yourself which is a big plus, but just keep in mind that you will also have about 5-10 grand in fines to pay and possible jailtime as well.....even in self-dense. Like I said, I carry (and recommend) bear spray for the backcountry hikes in bear country. I recommend bringing two metal pipes (or pans) for clanging together to scare them away. Also, if hiking backcountry, bring a bear canister. If in camp, have some type of bear proof locker for ALL items that have scent....that means anything from food, to empty snicker's wrappers to chapstick, perfume, and shampoo. Don't believe me, well, just leave it all in your car and have fun cleaning up the mess when they break in. Seen it, many a time at Yosemite. I speak from experience with the large fuzzy wuzzies...
     
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    It's different up north. Bears are hunted. I don't hunt, but there is a bear hunting season. You can defend yourself against bear attacks with leathal force. You might get in trouble for carrying in a state park, but it wouldn't be as bad getting mauled while sleeping in your tent. Outside of parks it would be legal to carry a side arm.
     
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    Hello All,Been Reading these posts some will never "GET IT" I agree with the Right To Carry folks The Firearm is a tool to use if you need it.

    PRO RIGHT TO CARRY PRO 2 AMENDMENT
     
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    Love thy neighbor, and ride away. HK USP .45, Bulman shoulder rig.

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    First, it wasn't a slur. It was simply my opinion based on decades of observing the fools in charge of your government (as opposed to watching the fools in charge of my government, I suppose). Second, not only do I have a Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms, but I have a First Amendment right to free speech -- which means I can criticize ignorance (of another country's government) if I so choose.

    There is no legal requirement for me to allow someone else to first shoot at me first, before I can use deadly force to protect myself, my loved ones, or my friends against the threat of death or serious bodily injury.

    The THREAT of death or serious bodily injury justifies the use of deadly force against an attacker. You don't WAIT until it's too late to defend yourself.

    If I may borrow the previous poster's analogy, you can't wait until AFTER you have an accident to buy insurance. It would do you no good. You have to be prepared BEFORE the accident occurs.

    You don't wait until AFTER it's too late to protect yourself.

    You don't carry a gun to stop incoming bullets AFTER they have been fired at you. If you ever have to use deadly force of any kind to stop the threat of death or serious bodily injury to yourself/loved ones/friends/others, you use it to PREVENT it from occurring.

    You use deadly force as a LAST RESORT, yes. But you don't wait until it's too late.

    Being prepared shocks you? Having the means to protect yourself from others who wish to take your life or inflict serious bodily injury shocks you?

    Interesting. What would you do if someone walked into your office and started threatening people with a knife, a gun, or other deadly force?

    Why would I want to live somewhere that TAKES AWAY MY RIGHT TO DEFEND MYSELF? Giving up that right would be pure foolishness. I like things exactly as they are - I have the right and the ability to protect myself and my family from people who try to kill or harm us.

    In short, I don't carry a firearm to harm other people. I carry a firearm to stop them from harming me.

    And it most certainly is not a burden - it's an unfortunate necessity that keeps me FROM living in fear.
     
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    Thanks guys, I appreciate the Bear Prevention Moment!
    P.S. Glad your wife wasn't hurt Madduxxca!
     
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    Thanks Bomber! Good points! I always carry spray and a bell on my pack. I sing and shout every so often when hiking in likely situations (around the wild raspberries in the fall, etc.) I always hang my food in a tree (far away from the tent but feel it is very difficult to be truly scent-free. After all, there is chap stick on my lips, and lingering scents in general...those critters have amazingly good sniffers!
     
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    Not too mention packing gives you a nice, "secure" feeling. IDPA rocks!!
     
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    Well said Shorty.
     
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    haha, wasnt my wife, just a video i found on youtube. i dont let my lady shoot anything over .40.
     
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