My baby is dead...sad day for America...

Discussion in 'General VFR Discussions' started by eightangrybears, Nov 1, 2013.

  1. LOUDASS03VFR

    LOUDASS03VFR New Member

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    I am very sorry to hear about your injuries and your beloved VFR. Those pictures are hard to look at. My bike is like my pet dolphin that I ride on. Don't mess with my dolphin!!

    I am gracious that you are still alive and coherent.

    I hope that karma rears its head on the girl that cut you off. With any luck she will get hers. If it were me and my riding crew, she would be simply gone into thin air and so would her counter-suit against you. Failing to take responsibility was her second mistake. And to the police that wrote you a ticket during all of this... May God have mercy on their souls. Way to make a bad situation worse. Protect and serve?? I think more like tax, fine and condemn.

    Best of luck on your recovery and I hope that you are well enough to get back on a bike when the time is right.
     
  2. jugornot

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    You came out worse than I did in my accident. A woman turned left in front of me. I did have on an armored jacket. But my concern is your injury. I suffered a minor brachial plexus injury which can have symptoms that you described. I have a loss of range of motion. You should see a neurologist asap. There are repairs they can make if diagnosed early. Seriously you may be stuck with a non functional arm. Trust me after 11 months I'm stuck. See a neurologist and get some testing done.

    I also know what you mean about anger and probably depression. I became a raging maniac if someone cut me off or pulled out in front of me. Forgiveness will come with time. Don't expect to see any insurance money for a while. My bills have amounted to about $110,000. And in my state my health insurance and what my health insurance didn't pay are to come out of my settlement when it does come. I hope either she had major insurance or you have major under-insured coverage. I was out of work a total of 5 months and came back to early. I still have a 5# weight limitation on my bad arm. She also tried to blame me but the LEO called it straight. 100% her fault. I also subscribed to the theory that all accidents could be avoided if you were vigilant enough. I now subscribe to the shit happens theory of riding.

    Get well and get that arm looked at. Look for something called bikers arm for more information.
     
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    So sorry to see yet another rider down, especially because of yet another cager doing something stupid. Your attitude about the crash, especially how you're glad you didn't hit her in your car...man, you're way better about it than I would have been. As for the 18yo, if she's got the resources to file a BS counter-suit (typical tactic to get a victim to settle or back off altogether) you should be able to get a judgement. If nothing else, you could make her life an economic Hell for years to come. Personally, since she doesn't want to take responsibility I hope you can get her in court and shove responsibility down her throat and up her ass, horizontally.
     
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    First and foremost, I am super happy that you seem to be on a journey to mend as much as you can. I have experienced a few injuries from work where for a time, I could not use different limbs. One such injury, left me in ER not knowing if I would walk again. So I hear you.

    Now to that bitch. The fact that she sued you should be expected. I believe this is a common tact preferred by lawyers to try to reduce any liability on the part of their client. The truth will be on your side.

    And third. About the insurance papers or what ever the specific charge was. Dispute that ticket. I am going to assume what you have written here is the God's honest truth for the sake of my argument. I find it odd to be suggesting you do this because I am a retired LEO with approx 1/3 of my 25 years of service doing traffic related duties including Accident Investigations.

    I don't know for sure, in the jurisdiction you were in, but I believe that there has to be intent to commit many of the offenses. In other words, you had no lawful excuse to fail to present your Proof or Registration or insurance or what ever. I would suggest that being hauled away by the EMTs would constitute a lawful excuse for not supplying these documents. Also, consider making inquiries to the office where this officer worked for an explanation as to why such a ticket was issued in the first place. I can understand if it was a matter of having no insurance or not having the bike properly registered, but to fail to produce the documents as proof under these circumstances is complete lack of reasonable discretion. What did that have to do with the cause of that accident? Under the circumstances, that proof can be supplied at a later date.

    I will relate an abbreviated story similar. Just as I was retiring, I ended up investigating a serious injury accident where a young lady was driving a van for all the right reasons. Dedicated driver for a birthday party. All's good so far. I knew the owner of the van. He was flipping plates which is insurance fraud. He was charged and plead guilty to that. A whole other story.

    Two young men were thrown from that van and sustained broken necks. Obviously they were not wearing seat belts as required by law. SO happens I am be huge believer and enforcer of that particular law. I don't buy into the argument that "It is my life". That is a totally whole new argument that is never going to be won by either side.

    My point in this is this. My supervisor ordered me to go serve tickets on these two for failing to wear seat belts. I mean the buggers were still in the hospital. In no uncertain terms I told him to "Fuck Off. I refuse to serve those poor buggers seat belt tickets." I mean, if suffering broken necks is not enough incentive to wear them in the future, a $79.00 ticket will do nothing either. If the injuries were lesser, I probably would have but come on. I told my supervisor that if he wanted, he could go and serve the tickets, but also told him I was heading out that moment and advising the boys and their families of the conversation that just took place. And I did just that.

    In other words, under the circumstances in both the accident I was referring to, and your accident, the charges were frivolous all be it, maybe factually true. Basically chicken shit.

    in 2006, there were 683,396 full time LEOs working full time in state, city, university and college, metropolitan, county and other law enforcement agencies in the USA alone. An additional 120,000 federal police so 800,000 in total. And a few of these normally dedicated people, do stupid things and give us all a bad name. Their actions are shameful.

    Get well. Make it soon. Good luck.
     
  5. jugornot

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    Hey Bears,

    How are you coming? I know its early, but any improvement with your arm? How are you doing otherwise? Best wishes for a continued recovery. Also wanted to update you on my insurance journey. Its been 14 months. I was just released by my orthopedic surgeon having reached maximum medical improvement (MMI.) I have permanent work restrictions and my arm is basically useless above shoulder height. He also gave me an impairment rating of 50%. She had liability of $30,000 and I have stacked UIM of $350,000. Since you have a lawyer he should be handling this for you. I may have to hire a lawyer if they come back with anything less than full payout. Hopefully you have even more insurance for your recovery. I tell people that my ribs look more like a nest than a cage. Once in a while I still think about the lady that caused my accident those are not good thoughts either, but I'm getting better. I consider my self educated and informed, but when a doctor tells you are less than you used to be, I get depressed. Work has been very therapeutic. MY co-workers are so welcoming and supportive it bouys me up. They always step in to help before I even have to ask. My wife has been the most supportive person in the world. None of my doctors were emotionally supportive (there for me) but that should be expected. They deal with terrible injuries continually and are hardened to it. Never cease thanking those who help. Seek help if things become to much to bear. Your loved ones are there for you, you need to be there for them. There is more to your life than your injuries. You will come out of this better than you went in. Endurance builds character.

    Please let me know if there is anything I can do.

    Bill
     
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    So sorry for your loss bro. I hope you get better and back on a VFR soon
     
  7. Mohawk

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    I know that feeling, I had a guy turn right (UK) across a light as it changed to red when I was in the junction many years ago. I T-boned the front of the van, at approx 18mph on the brakes, did a handstand on the brakes, steering snapped right on impact due to angle, left hand released, right on brake lever stayed attached until forearm broke alloy mirror bracket off bars & force ripped right shoulder from socket. I remember flying over the bonnet (hood in USA) looking at startled driver, then head (in helmet) hit ground & whole body slapped down & my feet ended up over the curb edge, which damaged my feet. Luckily I was wearing a leather jacket, no armour it was before those days ! So right shoulder had major nerve damage, could not use right arm for 3 months only wiggle fingers. Could not ride for 6 months due to strength lost in arm !

    So I know what it's like to not be able to put on a shirt! pull up yor pants, wipe your butt with the wrong hand etc.
    Good luck with the law suit. Inonly learned a couple of years ago,, that the USA being a 1st world country has 3rd world country insurance laws ! In the UK & most of the rest of the western world you have to have full 3rd party liability cover just to be allowed on the road. Even uninsured drivers are insured in the UK by the law that allows firms to be insurers they have to cover uninsured drivers on a round Robin basis, so the innocent party is NEVER out of pocket if injured ! I can't believe they don't have that in USA as a federal law !
     
  8. 34468 Randy

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    Yes. Everywhere is a little different. Here in BC (province in Canada) you have to have a minimum of $1M liability insurance on your vehicle. In Manitoba, (another province in Canada) I think it is the driver that carries the liability insurance which is part of his license fees. I like that idea but I can see where having liability on the vehicle would be better. But here, we need to read and understand out policies very well. As an example, all BC auto insurance is void in Mexico. No lie! Cross that border, you do so at your own risk.
     
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    Another thing. I am sure your attorney will advise yo on this. This 18 year old self serving bitch has very little insurance so you may think you are left out in the cold except for the saving grace of your work insurance. Sue the hell out of this bitch. She may only be 18 years old and may have nothing right now, but what will she be worth in say 10 years time. Get the settlement and worry about collecting it later. I would be willing to bet, that if you got a substantial settlement now, you have all your life to collect it. And all of her life too leading up to and including going after her estate if she dies. With driving like that, that possibility could come sooner rather than later. I believe it will likely show up on her credit score as well. Not only that, if she marries some rich bugger, well I guess, the poor sod just married a liability that he now has to deal with as well. Understood, each jurisdiction may be a little different.
     
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    On a motorcycle, always treat cars, suvs, trucks as enemy's trying to run you over. Motorcycle biggest friend is actually speed and being able to out handle anything-to get out of the way of these two ton monsters. Never count on anything except yourself!
     
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    I am sooooo sorry this little bitch even got out of bed that terrible day. I agree with Randy..ya never know. Keep your chin up and anger wont settle anything...what gos around comes around...she'll get her's. Please stay here as a loyal member and keep us posted on you recovery. That why I always ride like Im invisible to everybody....and never ride next to a gager. Get well brother
     
  12. jugornot

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    As an addendum to ride like your invisible ... Never underestimate the stupidity of anybody! ... especially cagers!!!
     
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    A good idea is to see how fast you can stop and see how the handles a high speed stop-its going to be fun testing out those abs brakes-takes most of the skill part out of stopping fast,but I am sure it will stop extremely safe and fast. I did a stoppy once on my Yamaha R6 with little gas in tank -going to fast and a truck pulled out right in front of me-back wheel went in the air LOL!:bull_head:
     
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    I heard that Jugornot---its crazy out there. It feels like sometimes I'm an idiot magnet----when you least expect it
     
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