Samco silicone hose kits for 3rd 4th generation VFR's

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  1. Cleverchap

    Cleverchap New Member

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    Hi all,

    I have been looking for a decent aftermarket hose kit for my 1994 VFR.
    I have looked at the Samco website and see they do not offer such a kit. (They do offer earlier and later models but not the mid 90's VFR's).

    Does anyone know if silicone hose kits are available?


    Thanks
    Steve
     
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    Try....

    http://www.coremoto.com/

    http://www.spieglerusa.com/
     
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    Will try them, thanks
     
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    I had a good look around both those sites and they do not list any silicone hoses for mid '90s VFR's.

    I have ben talking (emailing) Samco and they are willing to tool up and do a production run of hoses but they want a minimum of 20 orders to cover tooling costs.
    From schematics the only hoses I can see that would form part of a kit are the two that go to the radiator and the one that joins the water pump to the metal water pipe on the left side of the engine.
    You could argue that the rad blow off to over flow bottle hose should be included as well.


    So is that it?

    3 main hoses and a bit of tube to the overflow bottle?


    Would anyone be keen if this was made available? I do not know any costs yet, as demand would drive the price, but like I said previously Samco would need a minimum 20 order run to cover their tooling costs.
    Samco did tell me they can do the following colours and any hose could be done in any colour.

    [​IMG]

    Please let me know if you are keen.
     
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    Hi all,

    I have also contacted Richard at Racebikebitz and he send that if he has 10+ confirmed orders they will add RC36 kit to their product list, I have posted on VFRD under the topic Samco Hose Kits For 3Rd & 4Th Vfr 750. So If we can contact Richard at Racebikebitz with firm inquires them we will all have the opportunity in the future to replace them with something of a good standard.
     
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    Nice one :)
     
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    I have been studying the parts list for RC36 and there is two long, three short and two small bore hoses to the coolant bottle. the two long hoses don't look that deferent from the HON-65 (RC24) kit that Samco already make has anyone out there bought / fitted one of them and would please post some photo's of them.
    As for my post on this topic on VFRD I have had one response from a guy that very interested if the price is not to high. so that's 5 people that willing to order a set of hoses. we only need 5 more.

    Please post either here or on VFRD.

    Thanks,

    BigB.
     
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    Bump up to the top :)
     
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    Hi All,

    I have been in contact with Richard at Racebikebitz regarding the price of the kit if we can get enough people to place orders and today I received this reply.


    Hi Brian,

    1. Yes if we can get 5 on board we will begin to manufacture,

    2. From when we receive your OEM hoses it can take 4-6 weeks for the 1st kit to be made,I will then have priced for you with no obligation. Give you an exact price. Then you can go to the forum with an exact deal, if all is good I can set up on my website and as soon as 1st 5 orders are in we will go ahead ! We would have the price in around 1 week from receiving the hoses.


    Best Regards

    Richard Murphy

    Managing Director | Racebikebitz



    I think that the price for these kits will be around £70-80 as there are two long shaped, three short straight and two small bore hoses. Which is more hoses than the HON-65 RC24 kit (4) and less than the HON-52 RC30 kit (11) which are £67 and £102 respectively


    I am removing my hoses from my 4th Gen this weekend and will send them to Richard. When he gives me a price for the kit I will post it here, on VFRD & Honda VFR club forums on the same topic

    Then all we need is that at lease 5 people place orders and then they will start to manufacture the kit.

    Going back to something that was said earlier in this thread on the VFRD forum about the 4th Gen bottom hose not fitting a 3rd Gen are 3rd and 4th Gen hoses the same or not???? If they are different some one will have to send Richard a full set of hoses as a template and then we would need 5 orders for each model to them to start to make the kits.

    Can someone let me know A.S.A.P. If they are the same or not.

    Richard has offered me the first kit FOC if I send my standard hoses but if the first 5 people who are willing to place orders I will instruct Richard to split that discount between us.

    Thanks,

    BigB.


    Please PM me if you are genuinely interested with contact info.
     
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    Outstanding work.
    I'll defo take a set
     
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    Hi Cleverchap,

    That's great. only 3 more and its a game on!!!

    Thanks,

    BigB.
     
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    Hi All,

    This topic is now gaining some pace. This how the lists of people that have already committed to placing orders to trigger Samco to add 3rd/4th Gen to their list.

    SAMCO HOSE KITS FOR 3rd & 4th GENERATION VFR 750 RC36
    1990-93 & 1994-97

    4th Gen
    1. BigB
    2. Cleaverchap
    3. SEBSPEED (VFRD)
    4. SamW (VFRD)
    5. slo1 (VFRD)

    3rd Gen
    1. JZH (Honda vfr club)
    2. vfracer750 (VFRD)
    3. vfrcapn (VFRD)
    4. YoshiHNS (VFRD)
    5.

    So 4th Gen are know going to happen hopefully within 4-6 weeks. I am sending my standard hoses to Racebikebitz today. Then we need someone with a top and bottom rad' hoses and the two small bore pipes that run to the plastic bottle to them for them to check for any differences JZH as spare top & bottom hoses but is layed up with an ankle injury . The three short hoses have the same part numbers.


    Thank you to all of you that have already supported this topic.

    If we can get more people to commit to placing orders I will try to get a forum members discount from Richard at Racebikebitz.

    BigB.
     
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    Hi all,

    This topic has taken off with a list on VFRD under the same title with now 8 people wanting 4th Gen kits and 3 for 3rd Gem kits.

    I believe the more people that place orders the better a deal we will be able to get but the important thing is that we get Samco to add these two models to their product list because we will all need to replace are hoses someday and with OEM now discontinued and good s/hand hoses get hard to find this will be a good option.
    The guys with 3rd Gen Bikes need a few more people to sign up to make sure that they also get added to the product list.

    Check out my post on VFRD for more info.

    Thanks to everyone that has already got involved


    BigB.
     
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    I'm in for the 3rd gen set.
     
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    can you post a link or pm me a link. How much total with shipping to USA?
     
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    Hi All,

    I have received this email from Samco today. Anyone that wants to get involved can you please sign op on the VFRD forum and PM me (BigB) with full name, email and location details.

    Thanks.



    Hi Brian, Thanks for your email again,

    I will look at P & P prices for you but again it depends on weight and size,

    As a estimate we can say any Europe delivery with Royal Mail is £14 and then Rest Of World £18. As sure many of you and guys know the postal services parcels are not tracked until they are delivered and are just a signed for service. This can also take from 5-14 days for delivery.

    For the UK £5.50 is our std parcel FedEx charge.

    But we can also offer FedEx which is 1-2 day service and fully tracked. We have great rates but each country and area can vary in price so would need to quote individually on this of they can quote themselves on our website. I can set the product up on our site, then give a discount code for which your members can go on, choose colour and delivery options themselves.

    Look forward to speaking soon,

    Kind Regards

    Richard.
     
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    Hi, Has anyone got access to both 3rd & 4th Gen radiator hoses for comparison and can give us a definitive answer to the question if there is a difference if any between either or both of the radiator hoses we already know that the three short hoses are the same and that the overflow pipes are 300 & 400mm (4th G) 400 & 700mm (3rd G) We had hoped that one of the people on VFRD in the UK thought that he had a spare set of 3rd Gen hoses and was going to send them to Samco for them to make a comparison between them and the 4th Gen hoses I sent last week.

    Thanks,

    BigB.
     
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    Hi All, I have received the email we have been waiting for. Can I ask all of the 4th Gen owners that are interested to please place your orders on the link A.S.A.P. so we can get things moving. So with the 15% VFRD discount its £85.87 which is around where we though it was going to be.

    As you can read the 3rd Gen kit will be put into production as soon as they get rad' hoses to work from.



    Thank you all for supporting this thread,



    BigB.



    Hi Brian,



    This is the link to our website where your members can place the pre orders,



    http://racebikebitz....licone-Hose-Kit



    I have also set up a voucher code available to all members with a 15% introductory discount. This is valid until end of March to get the 1st + 10 kits underway so we can proceed. Would appreciate members moving asap so not to cause you any delays with production. All orders will be around 4 weeks as soon as all in.



    VFR750-15



    This is the code,



    An account will need to be opened on the website for it to work.

    It is case sensitive.



    We also have a free of charge 2nd class delivery option available.



    I hope this is good news and very much look forward to hearing from you all.



    Great with the other hose from the 90-93 3rd gen model from vfracer750, We will get this rolling as soon as in. We will set up just like the above.



    Thanks again for all your input and glad we could put together.



    I will keep you updated on numbers,



    Kind Regards



    Richard
     
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    Hi All, We still need a few more people to place orders for the 4th Gen kits on the link to get production started on the first batch of kits.
    The 15% discount only lasts until the end of the month so anyone that wants a kit at this price PLEASE order A.S.A.P.


    Thanks,

    BigB.
     
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