Motorcycle Crash

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  1. nookiaz

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    Sad, :rip:
     
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    That made me sick to my stomach.
     
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    1300 Yamaha a 600 pound fast and can't stop as fast as a lighter bike, I don't know why the rider didn't at least try not to hit head on-I am all ways looking for a escape route while riding. 100 mph is a fast speed to try and dig your way out. he could see quite a ways before the car was coming right at him. I have no answers except be careful.
     
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    He coulda hard lefted, and slid into the hedge, or slashed right, towards the tail of the car, and possibly slid by, with the risk of a car being behind the one turning,

    BUT, honestly, it's two tremendous fuckups. that could have been fatal at any speed.
     
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    Inexperienced. ..did everything or should. I say nothing right
    Very sad...RIP
     
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    The sound after the initial impact is hard to get out of your head. RIP
     
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    That is sad. But is that what "fun" riding in the UK is? Going fast on straight stretches of busy hwy? I'll only push the upper limits of the VFRs speed range when I'm riding out in the high desert where you can see forever. No cars or side streets to speak of, only coyotes and pronghorn to worry about.
     
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    Ot takes a person's brain anywhere from 1/2 - 1 1/2 seconds to see something, and to analyze what yoj saw and determine you need to do something as a result. Then you have to decide what to do and then get your motor skills to kick in. Lets assume at this man's age, he is in his prime and took 1/2 of a second. Do the math yourself. How much distance is covered at 97 mph in 1/2 second.? Well you saw. His absolute quickest reaction was vocal. He had absolutely no chance to avoid that. Should yhe driver of the car jave been charged even though they knew to high speed of the bike? Absolutely. The onus is on him to insure ot was sabfe to cross the path of an on coming car who had the right of way, regardless of that vehicle's speed. That car driver failed to do that. That bike rider was exercising very poor discretion in his speed. This resulted in a tragic loss of life. And a few ruined lives, including the driver of that car.

    For God's sake people. Have some fun. BUT BE SAFE......ALWAYS!
     
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    Ive had that situation happen to me twice but i was fortunate to react quick enough to dodge the accident. Of course i wouldnt dare ride that fast in any road that has intersections where cars can cross. Only time i would speed like that is on the freeway where there is zero chance of cross traffic.
     
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    When I first started riding an experienced rider told me to pretend that I'm invisible and always assume cars are going to pull out in front of you. He was right, they sure do! If there is a car waiting to pull out at an intersection or cross street you can almost guarantee that they will. He also told me to always slow down and cover the brakes approaching intersections.

    I never just cruise on through an intersection unless I'm mixed in with a group of cars, but if I'm alone I slow down and get ready....
     
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    ya shit, I slow up at bad curves or be ready to hit the brakes=usually both and honk my tiny weeny horn too-nobody ever thinks it too nosy. but what the shit why was this guy going for fast anyway-looks like a bad place too and on a chunky 1300, my old r6 was just as fast but could out brake and out handle that big Yamaha with shaft drive. I all way assume the driver is a idiot .
     
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    Handling has nothing to do with going faster than his reactions Could have saved him, SOW. That is the point being made. The car is irrellevent. In a gruesome way we all ride with that in that back of our heads some days, it helps keeps the nerves sharp and ready. Because some of us come close, and some of us don't come back.
     
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    Terribly sad.

    I feel like he was responsible also, though. More so than the driver possibly.

    That's what you guys are going to say when it happens to me. I just hope that I get a few curse words out on my video.

    I pretty much follow the advice mentioned above, though. This guy could have avoided it, but he was maybe daydreaming and going to fast for conditions IMO. Too bad.
     
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    The cager's side...when deciding when to make the turn, I looked ahead and saw a car a long way down the road, in what appears to be a no passing zone. I have lots of time to safely make the turn. I can now go through my routine of checking the mirrors; possibly an over shoulder check, just for good measure; turn on blinker; make my move into the turning lane; checking the road where I'm going to, to make sure it is safe to enter; all this while adjusting my speed and choosing my point of entry; a cursory glance to make sure the car is where I expected it to be; it is; recheck my mirrors; make my turn; WTF where the hell did he come from?...

    Needless to say, but I put all the blame on the biker, on this one.
     
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    :sorrow::sorrow::sorrow::sad::Cry:I have to agree the biker was at fault here, he seemed to be reckless. And the bike the 1300 Yamaha is a big sport touring bike that I all most bought, but thought its just too heavy for my wood floor garage. This is a odd bike to be driven like this , most people who buy these touring yamaha are conservative riders even more so than vfr riders. The thing to learn, is don't go so dam fast especially in any kind of traffic.
     
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    VERY SAD...Just been reading about it but cant get my self to watch it....don't want the sound or and image in my head
     
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    Some dudes get off on that shit.. A prime example is DVD sales of crashes and the mouth breathers in the front rows at NASCAR.
     
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    Just watched the vid, twice. Very Sad, but saddly avoidable pretense. Before the point of impact

    I had a flashback to my MSF class. I had not been riding that long before the class. But towards

    the end of the last riding test class day I met up with the flag. It was no where near the speed of

    this incident but still was in the back of my mind somehow.

    For those of you who have took the

    Basic MSF class it might be similar. You are at a stand still. You accelerate and am going straight

    for the instructor. At the last minute(seconds) he point the flag either left or right. You don't really

    have time to think, just react and end up in the lane behind him(something like that, it was a long time ago).

    Hard to say under different conditions, but all I remember was a fast countersteer followed by another a
    split second later. Although@ 97mph+ ???. Maybe just a thought, although I probably would not be going
    at that rate of speed in an area as such. Car was already committed and turning. I would have swerved to the right behind the car and left again. but sooner, not at that distance. But who knows?

    When its your time, its your time.

    I hate intersections and driveways..

    R.I.P. Rider...
     
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    Note that the comments include that a low side is better than an impact. Kinda blows the laying the bike down is not a great idea out of the water.

    I did the math..
     
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