Can this get me in trouble? A ticket for example...

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  1. Badbilly

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    Easier wheelies and harder stoppies ?
     
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    My thoughts? You guys are all a bunch of bullies giving the guy a hard time for trying to make his bike look unique. He asked about the legality of his bike, not the safety of it.

    When I rode through a few US states last year, I was amazed that vehicles did not have Daytime Running Lights, which are mandatory in Canada. So apparently your gov't doesn't think it's important for daytime visibility, why should the OP?
     
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    Thank you iamzombie !!

    After being on this forum for about a year I finally noticed that some of the people who replied to this and the way they approached it is really childish, or maybe they are not around people that much.
    I'm talking mainly about Red99RC46 and Badbilly. No wonder some people think us bikers are weird.
     
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    I do not think it is bullying to point out the inherent dangers, I guess I am just too old to understand when counter-productive mods take precedence over functionality.
     
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    It's possible when someone suggests a mod, that they haven't completely thought it through, and are unaware of the drawbacks. Pointing out those drawbacks isn't bullying, it's just consciousness raising.
     
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    Childish? reducing the main to be seen function of a motorcycle in pursuit of style points is childish. Your entire "will this get me a ticket" was childish. What do you think if you even had to ask that question? We all poke fun at the harley crowd for their style over better sense. How is this not the same?

    Seriously though, have you not had a car almost end your life on the bike? You're now asking for it even more with that cover. Drivers aren't going to stop for you in admiration of the nightshade tint.

    If you feel this is bullying, I don't know what to tell you than I would hate to see a fellow VFR rider splattered all over the road because of a style mod.
     
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    let me stop you right there. "our" gov't isn't exactly the bastion for common sense.

    but.. actually the fed is going overboard with vehicle laws here. tire pressure monitors are mandatory. They want all vehicles to communicate with each other in the near future. End game is to remove the driver completely. as for DRL's, there is a theory here that having all vehicles running lights during the daytime will in fact reduce the apparent visibility of the motorcyclist. They'll just blend in with the sea of lights.
     
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    I don't call it bullying if we are concerned about a fellow VFR rider. The mod would effective make an already difficult to see motorcycle almost invisible to the common completely distracted drivers around the world. It's not just a US thing... Sure we poke a little fun but isn't that why you are on VFR World and not that "other" site?

    If you want to go run and tell the teacher because you got a little bloody nose on the play yard you might be in the wrong yard...
     
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    I hear you on gov't getting too involved in our day to day lives, but professional drivers have been using headlights during the daytime since well before I was a child. I can honestly say, that was a very long time ago. My old man traveled the countryside for a living starting back in the mid 50's. He always used his headlights as did just about every trucker I remember seeing on the road. If you live or travel in any area where mirages are common, you will sure appreciate the headlights more quickly. Mirages form as often in the dead of the frozen winter as often as the heat of summer. I have witnessed objects being totally invisible in as little as a few hundred yards, yet a bike or car with it's headlights on will be visible an easy 1/4 mile away through a mirage.

    I would like to ready up on that theory if you happen to know where it is. Most traffic studies with any degree of credibility are done I think at North West University. I think that is in the Chicago area. This is where the Accident Reconstruction education and training is researched, developed and taught to those who need to know for professional reasons.

    Granted, here, except maybe the 401 through the Toronto area, the traffic is not nearly as heavy as the freeways of LA, but they are still very busy. I have not noticed this sea of white lights you speak of.
     
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    They tried the idea of daytime running lights on motorcycles out here years ago but after a few years they gave up on it
     
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    They have been on all motorcycles here in Canada and I think the USA for quite a while now. DRL in the USA is an option you can order for your cars. In Canada they are required, along with that extra brake light in the rear window. Both been mandatory here in Canada since about the 1989 model year of cars and light trucks. Early on, they just had it so the low beam headlights came on as DRL but most cars have dedicated lights.

    I think they should have taken it further and made the tail lights come on too. Driving on the Freeways here in a down pour and come up on a grey coloured car can be a bit startling.

    But back on topic. To OP. Like has been said here, sometimes with a little more enthusiasm than many like, we are critical of these shields for the right reason. Safety. Personally, I think they look cool. But should not be used when operating the bike.
     
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    The form over function dudes to really be convincing should present an overview coupled with at least a few facts about street bikes that were manufactured and sold in the US and Canada that did not have the lights on when the ignition was on going back thirty years and more.
     
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    Thirty years ago we were still riding old Brit bikes and with those it was hard enough just to keep the lights working so you could ride at night, forget about trying to use the lights during the day. And from memory the Harley charging system 30 years ago wasn't that flash either
     
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    That was 30 not 50 years ago. ;) That old Velo I sold fits.. and lest we forget "The Prince of Darkness."
     
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