5th Gen Best Mod$: "Actually Readily Obtainable and Available"

If the GPS SpeedTracker is accurate I can use it to try a few different things, it's not over yet

 

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I'm a bit concerned now, 132 mph is when I was seeing over 140 indicated, I might really be down on power and this whole effort has really done nothing much, I dunno I have a feeling I need a Rapid Bike tuner and a performance exhaust system or just be happy worth what I got and don't claim I have any additional performance, I dunno

 

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What actually has happened is when I got the smartphone mount and made a few videos of 0-140 mph,I then and only then got the idea to download a GPS speed tracking app, and when once I did that , then and only then did have anything actually accurate to guage "speed performance" and everything up to that point, which BTW was just a few hours ago, was basically just "made up numbers" , so that being said 132 mph should be the beginning of 5th gear which should wind out to at least 140 mph but to tell you the truth I don't think this setup is going to bring in an actual GPS 150 mph, there might even be a speed limiter, so if this is true the only solution I can think of is to restate and "re-package" the entire purpose of this thread to some more down the lines of "true OEM equivalent" performance where you just find the best comparable products and spiff up an older VFR, not added horsepower gains, I probably should have never started down that path because people like Mohawk really know, so I can work on redefing the purpose if I can't get much past 150 mph

 

"Speed limiter"
~what happens when you stick an extra snorkel and low power ecu in your VFR~

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I have the OEM cover and flapper so I'll put it back with the PiperCross filter, how should it be setup:'

No snorkel flapper connected ?

 

I think I'm still being "totally consistent with the title of the thread, the initially posting needs to be revamped to the "dream of performance" because there is a distinct possibility the whole issue of "power" might be more like 10%, if any and at this point I need to make sure it's not actually losing power, it's just a journey,need to lower "added power" expectations

 

I've seen no difference with the snorkel and/or flapper installed or removed. My flapper was a bit messed up on my 5th gen, so I pulled it off. I pulled the snorkel on it to see how it sounded with the exhaust setup I have and it's too much of a pain to reinstall, so it's off for now. I couldn't see any difference on my 6th gen either.

I still can't understand two snorkels as they are just to help mitigate sound.

 

No Snorkel, No Flapper

 

I haven't heard anything about a speed limiter in any VFR800 ECU. But, I would say that my research indicated that the German-spec ECU was the "emissions ECU", with a corresponding performance penalty, which Honda made a big point of having eliminated when they released the "universal ECU" in 2000.

(Does this mean the dyno session is off?)

Ciao,

 

"the"next"person"to"use""""in"a"post"will"get"banned"

 

Stop. Just slow down a bit on the mods. This is what many who have wrenching/moving 1s and 0s around on the fuel maps and actually modifying the engines for performance for the past 15 years have been telling you.

But I say better late to the party than never to arrive so let's use this new-found transparency or humility for a little experimentation.

Swap out your ECU for the stocker and make the same run that you previously topped out at 132 on, then report the findings.

 

I think the whole purpose of the snorkel/flapper set-up is to all the bike pass noise restrictions, but still allow decent breathing up top.

 

The ECU, the ECU, the ECU, the ECU is the question and the question is the ECU? But the bigger question is where are you on the trail with a "mental position" with the ECU and how did you reach such a conclusion ? Right now I have no mental position with the ECU, so the jury is still out but what I do have is an accurate GPS SpeedTracker and several stretches of somewhat isolated rural back country straight sections of road up to about 1.5 miles in length. So I would like to get to the bottom of the ECU question myself. But the airbox appears to be a distinct possibility of a restoration and I think it needs to be addressed by keeping both snorkels in place but still a few rows of holes in between the snorkels to increase the air intake into the air box and install the Pipercross filter, then see if on those same stretches of roads the bike can get more than 132 mph. I'm not so sure the Euro ECU G is actually slowing anything nor do I actually believe any numbers published in a press release, so I have no mental
Position on the quite yet. I need to deal with the airbox and try and increase the top speed first. I did here back from the DynoTech tuner and he is booked up till January, but that's just a final validation and a fuel mapping for the very end to further validate what " situational tuning" can determine simply using GPS "true speed bursts"

 

The ECU, the ECU, the ECU, the ECU is the question and the question is the ECU? But the bigger question is where are you on the trail with a "mental position" with the ECU and how did you reach such a conclusion ? Right now I have no mental position with the ECU, so the jury is still out but what I do have is an accurate GPS SpeedTracker and several stretches of somewhat isolated rural back country straight sections of road up to about 1.5 miles in length. So I would like to get to the bottom of the ECU question myself. But the airbox appears to be a distinct possibility of a restoration and I think it needs to be addressed by keeping both snorkels in place but still a few rows of holes in between the snorkels to increase the air intake into the air box and install the Pipercross filter, then see if on those same stretches of roads the bike can get more than 132 mph. I'm not so sure the Euro ECU G is actually slowing anything nor do I actually believe any numbers published in a press release, so I have no mental
Position on the quite yet. I need to deal with the airbox and try and increase the top speed first. I did here back from the DynoTech tuner and he is booked up till January, but that's just a final validation and a fuel mapping for the very end to further validate what " situational tuning" can determine simply using GPS "true speed bursts" tracking logs��

On 12/12/16 I traveled 21.4 mi in 23:45 with avg.speed of 54.1 mph and max.speed of 131.8 mph using Speed Tracker. GPS Speedometer and Trip Computer.


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You are just playing games. You already know the answer. All you need to do is remover both snorkels, put your normal full power ecu back in and upload a PC map for normal ecu and slip on, but you just want to play games on these pointless threads forever instead.

 

2001 VFR 800 FI

ECU :"A"
PC 3 : Fuel Map Staintunes, o2 eliminator, aftermarket air filter
AIRBOX: no snorkel(s), no flapper, no holes drilled
AIR FILTER: PiperCross
STAINTUNES: No baffle