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  1. Badbilly

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    The headers in question look like they are year specific. In terms of other configurations, it might be great to have custom fabricated set of pipes and as yet an unknown muffler (s) on one's bike but in terms of cost, and of course subjectivity, springing for a couple of thousand pesos for headers on bikes that are only worth a bit more than that is for most IMO out of the question.
     
  2. Gator

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    He really gets in there while welding. Looks like a dental hygienist.
     
  3. RVFR

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    Bubba, as it is right now the plan is 5th gen. But knowing that the 5th and gen system interchange with the 6th gen less the mid pipe has it doable. I haven't really got down to the brass tacs on the 8th. my first off looks tells me they'll fit, ? as it's the same engine layout as the 6th. but knowing there's a front mount radiator, has me wondering how much re do there'd be hasn't been figured out.
     
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    Going strictly by memories of oil changes on the 6th gen vs my 8th gen, I think the front pipes bend in closer together and exit more under the engine on the 8th gen.
     
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    I actually saw the header in person last week as I was picking up another part from Kevin. Things to note, the way the exit pipe is routed on this two bros, the center stand has to be removed. I am interested in the final product routed in a way it retains the center stand. Also, what is the stock diameter? From what I understand, the larger diameter they are, low end is sacrificed for high end. I am interested in bumping up the low/mid range power band as I am not interested in peak power for the street. Let me know your thoughts.

    Art
     
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    That is pretty funny considering that the Two brothers header raised my 1/4 mie trap speed from 120 to 128mph, untuned, I am sure it is a little stronger after welding a wide band in each primary and closed loop tuning. Also Mohawk's dynos have proven that there is no loss in the 3000-8000 range, with large gains in the 8000 and up range. If you are not willing to give up any power in the <3000 range for more in the >8000 range, you must have a lazy clutch hand and shifter foot lol. You would be very surprised at just how much difference 7-9% really can be.
    My two brothers header is at least 15 years old. It is doing fine.
    I am sure a vfr1200 will pull on me at speeds over 120, but I would find it hard to believe it would fair as well in the turns, being 600 vs 460 pounds.
    Why can't one have suspension/brakes and a header. Why must one chose header or suspension?
     
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    You honestly sound just like the Motad sales Rep lol.
     
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    I have seen Mohawk's before and after (which you comically labeled fake), there was no real world compromise and great top end gains.
     
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    We would all love to see your dyno numbers as well lol.
     
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    I can confirm the 5th gen two brothers header works on my 6th gen, but you having the 8th with the front mount radiators, may present a challenge.
     
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    Art; ;) awe you tried to sneak it out did ya, ;) jk.. Yea there's the if factor with the center stand. Though what research I found has shown me it fits, and a look over other photos shows me it should, but those i've seen where folks that wanted the wieght saving of not having it as well. Ya never know till its worked out, even typing in google doesn't bring anything to light, so guess we'll know here shortly. Yea the plan was to keep it.
    Now on the 2bro site, they show the center stand in place HONDAvfr800199801TwoBrothers.jpg
     
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    It was still installed partially on his bike when I was there. The plan was to ship it over for you to model but luckily you got it before anyone else anyways. Also, I am just going by what Kevin told me, as I was there and he was telling me he was switching to 99 headers to re install the center stand. He had been running without. Perhaps he had it installed incorrectly? I don't know, it was hanging next to a stock header and it did look like the exit pipe was in a different position. But since it will be in your hands, you can confirm. Maybe it was an earlier/later/different system than the one in the picture? Who knows. At least you will have something to model off of and build to suit.

    Art
     
  13. RVFR

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    Well know this, if the centerstand won't fit, then looks like neither would the Staintune, which has too. ;) if that happens to be the case, I have a fix for that. I also noticed guys are starting to get on board over VFRD, Cool. Personally, can't wait to see how this 2bro stacks up with what numbers :)
     
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    ok so it looks like this has a better chance to survive now, now that you stole my 2 brothers exhaust from face book, with VFRD climbing on board and pretty sure it will work on a 6 gen, I just donated to the cause on your go fund me page.
     
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    ^ Nice, even more so now that I see your project VFR.

    Another up date here that things are moving forward.
     
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    Things are now moving into the next gear. Just received what I've been looking for for quite some time.. Now the real fun begins.

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    Doubly nice is, it weighs 7.5 lbs.

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    Excited for ya Jmon


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    Another up date... Went up and saw Gabe where we went over in more detail since I happen to have the unattainable. In whats happening, he ordered up the tubes, got all the measurements, figured out whats next. So in a couple weeks we'll have things really all laid out. He also saw where there could be some improvements in the sweeps thinking not only fit better, but flow better too. He's pretty sure I'll see a tad better set of numbers, but until it's on the Dyno we won't know for sure.
    Speaking of Dyno, I'll have this 2bro install in a couple weeks, then run up and get a run in.

    The diff. between stock 98-99 vs 2 bro

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    Getting it figured out.

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    2Bro weights 7.1lbs, stock, 98-99 9.8lbs so a little savings there.

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    Yeeehaaaa -- is that Gabe?


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    Yep, that is Good ole Gabe
     
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