ahhh stupid starter

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  1. MysteryMachine

    MysteryMachine New Member

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    So I went to a dealer today and bought a bunch of routine maintenance stuff. Oil, oil filter, air filter, and spark plugs. Got home changed everything but the air filter cause its on order. Let me just say the spark plugs on these things are the spark plug change from hell. I thought my stang was bad. Anyway I start it up and messing with the choke it dies a couple times. Well then I start it and the damn starter keeps turning over. As soon as i turn the key on the bike starts and the start keeps turning. So that ticked me off. I tried to push it back up on the the stand kick stand thing and it leans over and hits our camper towing tongue and cracks the rear plastic piece under the seat. I wasn't sure if i was gonna be able to lean it back up myself i was on it at the time. All that was running through my mind was i was gonna slid and go all the way down and I was gonna get stick under it and get messed up and not even be riding it. I lifted it back up straight and said screw it and came inside. Any idea on what to do to the starter?
     
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    it sounds like the contact in the starter switch on the bar.. dirt grime build up inside the switch or the switch is going bad.. My 84 VF750F had the same problem and i just cleaned the switch and it was fine after that,
     
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    Hey it seems the starter switch is the problem. How did you go about cleaning it?
     
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    Open it up and spray contact cleaner on it, close and then move the switches back and forth. If you decide to open it completely, be careful. There is a small spring for the starter button.

    My starter switch doesn't come back to "Off" (messed with it, but can't figure how to fix it), so I just pull it back when the bike starts.

    Also, the solenoid can stick closed. Give it a wack and that should fix it.
     
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    Mason I just noticed you posted in another thread and I just asked about this . Like I said in the other thread I got the 2 screws out is that as far as I should go? Should I just spray the contact cleaner around the button from there or should i get deeper into the switch?
     
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    Crack open the control pod and spray contact cleaner in there. Close it back up and move all switches multiple times. If that doesn't work, you will have to open it up...

    Remove the two screws.
    Remove the electrical cable from the handlebar router - "C" thingy. You want as much slack as you can get.

    Once loosened, the control pod can be cracked open slightly and removed by sliding the entire assembly, grip/throttle tube and all out the end of the bar. You may have to turn the handlebars to the left to get the needed clearance.

    Make sure your tools are within easy reach and the area is clean. I sit on a mechanic's stool. Holding bottom of the control pod level, tilt up the top of the pod, and you will see the copper connections. They can be cleaned with a pencil eraser. If possible, don't let the starter button spring get out of position. It's a little hard to put back.

    For tools, I recommend an assortment of small screwdrivers and needle nose pliers with long thin tips or hemostat if you have one.
     
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    Thanks! Thats prolly what I'm gonna have to do. I sprayed teh hell outta it with contact cleaner with lube and it still sticks. I'll have to check it tonight but yesterday it was still sticking
     
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    Well after taking it apart it still sticks. I think I am going to have to replace the damn thing.

    Now I have 2 more questions.

    1. How much is that pod (guessing you have to buy the whole thing) gonna cost me?

    2. How hard is it to replace? I see all the wires are soldered on there I take it its not gonna be easy
     
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    well after playing with it more today (that just sounds wrong) I ended up losing part of the switch. I was watching the spring and I heard something else drop. It comes down to 2 choices 1. Replace the switch (pod) 2. Put a car starter button on it. I'm gonna call around a few places and see what they got and how much for a new pod
     
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    The "pod" has an electrical plug connection behind the headlight that plugs into the rest of the harness. Once you find another one, it should be plug-n-play - no soldering required.

    I just guessing, but I bet that control pods from '83 - '85 'Ceptors (any size) will plug right in. If you still can't find any, I would then try a Magna or Sabre pod.
     
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    well I bought a used one off ebay. I got it yesterday and guess what it sticks too. So I think I'm gonna just put the old pod back on with the starter button glued into place. Then I'm gonna put a car starter button on it. I may call honda and see what a new pod would cost if they can even still get it. Can anybody tell me what wires needs to be wired up to a switch
     
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