Why does my ABS bike have a non abs rear shock :|

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  1. noboost

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    Why would someone swap an ABS rear shock setup to a non ABS rear shock setup?

    Unless there is space inside the sides of the rear fenders, which I have not taken off yet, which is the only place I have not looked for the abs version rear adjuster... Was cleaning and waxing my chain today and noticed something...

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    Any way just seems peculiar as the VIN indicated ABS. :| Dam I need to clean in there...
     
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    Regardless of the VIN, is there an ABS ring on the wheels? If not, I would be curious if the frame was swapped out because of a wreck that gave it a salvage title.
     
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    ABS adjuster? No such thing, the only ABS components you can visually see are the rings with little slots in them and the pickups that count the slots. Plus the ABS indicator on the dash. Are you looking for some type of shock adjuster?
     
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    I'm sure he's referring to the remote preload adjuster for the rear shock that all 6th gen ABS equipped bikes came with. Without ABS, the rear preload adjustment requires tools to turn the rings on the shock itself.

    It would be a black knob on the right side above the passenger foot peg.
    Also, I don't think any year came with a red spring on the rear shock, so it might have been changed.
     
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    Your shock should look like this with hose going to the pre-load adjuster on the right passenger foot peg bracket.
     

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    No ABS ring on the front wheel. Also I was referring to the pre-load adjuster for the rear shock. I took the sellers word that it was an abs bike, not knowing one way or the other.

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    No ABS for me.

    For future searches that may bring this thread up, I found a picture via google, from this forum, that clearly shows the "abs ring"....
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    So now to look at my title closely to see if salvaged, which I don't think officially it is, since it was financed by a credit union by previous owner. Not to say some things did not happen and as others eluded to ended up this way. Or maybe he thought it had abs, and I just smiled and nodded.
     
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    Nope. Factory non ABS bike, all vins match that I can see, JH2RC461 indicating no abs. Not sure why previous owner would have stated that. Thought about calling him , but since the title and vins are all matching and clean and clear vincheck wise.

    So my question, not that I'm selling or changing anything if it were even possible to have abs... How much difference is it for the average rider on the street not trying to be rossi.
     
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    No way to add ABS because of computerization in the ECU. It's nice to have, saved my ass a couple of times, but I lot of guys rather not have it. Means you just have to learn all the important braking techniques. There are threads on here that debate the pros & cons. You can start by getting yourself a big bottle of Simple Green and clean the old girl up. Use an old stiff paint brush & a hose. Just spray on, agitate with brush and rinse. Don't use a power washer, that will force detergents into places you don't want. EBC brake pads and braided lines will improve braking and feel. If the rest of the bike looks like your photos, I would check the brake and clutch fluids for grunge, then flush.
     
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    Oh boy more oil thread debates XD. I do need to learn some proper things yet. Read read read, practice practice practice
     
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    Most of all enjoy working on it, and riding it.
     
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    A need caused by yourself, not likely. A need caused by other traffic or animals, possibly. We don't need, and mostly will not engage, ABS during normal braking. We use normal braking when we are in control of our travels. If someone pulls out in front of you, when swerving may not be the best option, leaving minimal distance for you to get stopped, ABS could be an advantage.

    I have three bikes, an 07' FJR w/ABS, an 06' VFR w/ABS, and an 06' ZX14 non-ABS. I stop quicker and more controlled on the ZX14. That's not necessarily because of the non-ABS brake system, rather the bike fits me better, has better brakes, and I'm pretty familiar with how to get the maximum braking out of it.

    I think there are many traditionalist (or would that be purist) riders who prefer non-ABS brakes. I prefer the FJR and ZX over the VFR on gravel, wet grass or maneuvering tight in a wet parking lots, because of the VFR linked brakes, but I also have never had a problem on those surfaces with the VFR and wouldn't sell it because of that feature.

    If you haven't already, read up on proper braking technique, watch some training video's and if possible attend a class. Then, often, hit an empty parking lot and practice maximum braking. Also consider and add it to your self training, when ABS is an advantage. It not only when we misapply the front and rear brakes, as we can control this, but also on wet surfaces, or slippery surfaces such as sand or gravel.

    If my VFR didn't have ABS, I would love it just the same.
     
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    A fellow member here was looking for a 6 Gen and took me along with him to look at a couple of bikes. One was a 2002 that the seller was claiming had ABS. I explained to him that his bike was lacking several items, most importantly, the ABS sensor rings, he was still adamant that he knew the bike had ABS and did not want to change his tune. Ironically I have an ABS shock on my non-ABS model and even pointed that this was another item his bike was lacking. Nope, he still insisted his had ABS. I told him maybe he was thinking the "linked braking" system is what he was confusing with ABSbut nothing I said could convince him otherwise.

    Perhaps he was told his bike had ABS by whoever he bought it from and was embarrassed about believing it.
     
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    Noboost forget about the ABS since you don't have it BUT you can do what OOTV and I have done is find a ABS shock and install after you get it back from DMr


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    PICS! :)
     
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    That picture contains so much win. Nicely done.
     
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    I'll get a closer pic or the rear shock if needed
    Thanks

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    Nah, I just enjoy seeing other peoples bikes. The carbon fiber shield on the exhaust is a nice touch. Curious what is going on with the red and blue, does that have a see thru cover?
     
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    Yup by Seb Speed over on discussion


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    You might luck out and get a donor cover like I did so ya can still ride while he's doin his magic
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