‘94 Rebuild

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    ^^^ This is the approach I was expecting. Emails going out today. The search begins.
     
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    Ok, so i got some feedback from Australia today and came up a interesting mash up. He confirms 2005+ CBR600rr fork set with radial calipers will both fit the head and fit the OE 94 VFR front wheel as long as I make some axle spacers. vfr.cbr.jpg
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    Now for some math. The 600rr runs a 310 rotor. From what I dug up the 750 uses a 296. 14mm dif. So if I cut 14mm in half that is the physical difference in contact between the radial caliper and rotor. Basically -7mm of contact. If I trim 14mm off of either the caliper or caliper mount the radial would match 100% contact?
    At that point I would have to be concerned with horizontal placement of each caliper to each rotor "dish"?
    Then there is the axle info which I have yet to dig into.
    I wish I had a junk yard with all of these so I could go 1-to-1 match up.

    The feet aren't part of the info download, just extra flash. :)
     
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    Looks like they both run 20mm front axles. hmmm getting closer maybe.
     
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    About 3 months ago, I had that front end in perfect condition. I got it in the huge parts lot with the 3 Hawks. Damn.

    Still processing coffee, but I don't think you would take 14mm off the mounts on the forks. -7, right?

    And before I started machining on the radial mounts, I would try finding a disc brake catalog that listed all of the specs. Perhaps there is another rotor with the correct mounts, dish, and diameter.
     
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    Yeah, you are correct. Only 7mm. I think I meant to type that and as I went to bed I said to myself "7mm, not 14mm", moron. EBC puts out good specs online, so that will be my next stop. Let me know if you have a go to. I could swear most of the wheels in that era are the same rotor mount template, but it only takes a mm to be wrong.
    I would actually run it short on contact before I trim any parts. Measure 10 times cut once as I get older. hahaha

    Enjoy your coffee.
     
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    I think Galfer and/or Braking used to show schematics with dimensions in their catalog too.

    I contemplated keeping that front end, but in the end I just didn't have a project in mind that I would put it on. And quite honestly, probably won't. Pretty fucking full plate at the moment. And I didn't want it on a Hawk, the chain reaction of mods and parts is not worth it to me. If I was building something custom with a seriously low front cowl and clip-on clearance (like a RC45 tribute), then yeah.

    I am so looking forward to seeing this come together. Right down my alley and I am jealous.
     
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    I get you on the full plate. I am purging all of the projects and "extra" bikes. I will probably keep Big Red until this project is complete (1yr+). Right now I am gathering parts for the conversion.
    I don't have space on the workbench. First the Yam needs to sell. The ST is going under a restore and return to OE on said bench (then determine sell or keep).
    Then I can go forward with any project I would like. My NSR conversion to Rothmans Tyga fiberglass, may be first with this RC36 waiting a bit longer. I have wanted to reduce overall bikes and then concentrate on my keepers NSR,RVF,SP1k, and ED (as in special Ed-wife dubbed the RC36). It does look special currently. haha
    I will check out Galfer and Braking tonight. Thanks for those. I feel like I have done this search in the past...Hoping to get Big Red out today for another test if the weather cheers up.
     
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    Rolled out Ed and my wife has dubbed her. More spider webs than body panels. Is it normal to run a ground to battery from the RR? Headlight might be worth a little. image.jpg image.jpg

    Part 1 remove site parts:
     
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    No idea why someone would do that. It is doing very close to nothing except adding the slightest additional ground for the battery. So nothing.

    The rear amber lenses if in good condition are not worthless. Not gold, but not junk. Some 1990-93 owners will fit them.
     
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    Anyone want a mint condition Corbin seat? image.jpg
     
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    image.jpg Mini test ride down the driveway was fun. Staintune sounds nice. No motor knock, carbs actually seem dialed in. At least the guy was reasonably honest. All in all, pleased. She is now capable of moving indoors with a recycled old battery. Took my sons Hawk out. Whew cold out but an absolute canyon slayer. There is soooo much more road available when you can chose your line so easily.
    As my favorite Christmas movie character once said, “welcome to the party pal!”.
     
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    What's up with the wall behind the last bike with the red cover?
     
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    Insulation. It was double sided tape "recommended", but the differences in temp is wreaking havoc with the tape. I need to buy some magnetic hooks to keep it in place.
    I can mount a solar charger for the car battery and rebuild motorcycles, but I can't hang insulation. lol
     
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    I have an extra ground kit installed on my RVF. Harness to frame, coils to frame, and starter to frame. Don't want a debate, just want to say that it is not an uncommon thing.
     
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    The way this was "accomplished", it is. Did you even look at the picture? It is a wire from the negative battery terminal to one of the R/R mounting bolts, not the actual unit. That R/R does not ground thru a mounting bolt. This is none of the examples you listed, and was done with, what, 14 or 16ga wire? Wow. If only Honda would have started doing that in the 80's, we all would have been saved.
     
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    Although it isn't the best follow through with the material chosen, not sure I can say that the goal was to ground the R/R.
     
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    I'm sure I can't say what the goal actually was.
     
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    Still doing the math on the front end, but I have a rear wheel now! Off to powder coat later this month or next month. Already a brand new Diablo Corsa 4 waiting for it! It was an oversight on my Ducati flat. Ducati had tube (didn't know), so the actual tire was fine by just removing the nail, but that was discovered after my wife found a new rear tire. :) Moto Gods are swaying my way again!! :)
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    Be SURE, DOUBLY SURE, they understand the importance, REQUIREMENT, of properly masking the machined center area on the inside of the wheel.

    And congrats.
     
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    Will do. I put red tape on the areas before I send it and write on the tape, with the threat of "you will need to redo if painted". :) Thanks for the headsup.
     
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